The Official 2018 NBA Draft Talk Thread 6/21

[cornercommission2k12]

Bulls breehs we need Mo bamba

Like him, just don't see him falling to us

We also have nothing to use to trade up.

My gut tells me we are going to end up with either young or porter jr. Long shots bamba or JJJ

I would be a little disappointed if we ended up with wendall carter or mikal bridges, I think they are good prospects just don't think when you deliberately lose and tank those are the players you want to end up with.

 

[AVXL]

I think Bagley's offensive game has a lot of question in terms of his shooting, vision and the extent of his face up ability.

I could see him being a #2 but if you think he is going to be your offensive anchor then I can't buy that tbh

Nothing shows that Bagley can switch well...

Got this from Sac Town Royalty on Bagley

Summary: High effort and higher verticality define Bagley’s game. He’s a developing scorer who can play in the post and slash to the basket, and is refining a deep-shot that will be critical to his game going forward. He’s also a beast on the glass, and his athleticism begs to be unlocked by a high-paced offense. But his defensive awareness is a huge concern moving forward, and his lack of mass, great length, and blocking instincts will keep him from being a rim protector. While there’s a lot to love about Bagley’s potential, it’d be more difficult to optimize a Bagley-lead team than it would for the other names in the Kings conversation.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Yeah...I think there’s little to no chance the Cavs or Knicks would trade out of the top 10 for that Suns package. And I doubt Philly would be interested in taking on Warren’s contract when they’re chasing LeBron.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

He doesn't play nice. I think you are confusing his personality with his Basketball personality. We all made this mistake in the past with Steph Curry. The tape is their real personality. Whatever you see in interviews are good for organizational assessments but not for evaluating prospects.

Time will tell

 

[#1 pick]

I think Bagley's offensive game has a lot of question in terms of his shooting, vision and the extent of his face up ability.

I could see him being a #2 but if you think he is going to be your offensive anchor then I can't buy that tbh

Nothing shows that Bagley can switch well...

He has elite lateral quickness and is 5 for 20 on switching screens shots.

Now that said, he gets lost in space far too often. Doesnt have the defensive instincts in space that someone like JJJ has.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you on his offensive long term outlook. I think he can be a #1 option ASAP. That said, shooting, vision and the extent of his face up ability are all concerns from game tape. In face up, too left dominate. Hes great at it but will have to be more versatile going to either shoulder instead of his right shoulder. Not as worried about his shooting. He has a great stroke but needs to speed it up and needs to set his feet better as well. His vision is hit or miss. He tends to have vision when slashing or in back to the basket but when in faceup, gets tunnel vision. Out of all of the prospects, hes the most coachable in terms of development as he has the athletic ability to do it all and he is a smart person in general with good offensive BBIQ.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Yeah...I think there’s little to no chance the Cavs or Knicks would trade out of the top 10 for that Suns package. And I doubt Philly would be interested in taking on Warren’s contract when they’re chasing LeBron.

I think it would have to be Cavs or Knicks.

Depends on how much the Suns are willing to offer.

Warren would immediately become the 2nd best player on the Cavs(If Bron's gone) or Knicks.

Say the Suns offer Warren, 16, 31, and their own unprotected pick next year....That might get the wheels spinning.

Warren's on a team friendly contract.He's a super efficient 20 ppg scorer making only 12 mil per yr for the next 3 seasons.

 

[#1 pick]

I think it would have to be Cavs or Knicks.

Depends on how much the Suns are willing to offer.

Warren would immediately become the 2nd best player on the Cavs(If Bron's gone) or Knicks.

Say the Suns offer Warren, 16, 31, and their own unprotected pick next year....That might get the wheels spinning.

Warren's on a team friendly contract.He's a super efficient 20 ppg scorer making only 12 mil per yr for the next 3 seasons.

 

[#1 pick]

I think the 13th or 14th pick is probably the range where a team 8-10 okay are moving back at to me depending how the draft plays out. 15-20 is damn near identical to me.

 

[SchoolboyC]

I think it would have to be Cavs or Knicks.

Depends on how much the Suns are willing to offer.

Warren would immediately become the 2nd best player on the Cavs(If Bron's gone) or Knicks.

Say the Suns offer Warren, 16, 31, and their own unprotected pick next year....That might get the wheels spinning.

Warren's on a team friendly contract.He's a super efficient 20 ppg scorer making only 12 mil per yr for the next 3 seasons.

Forgot to mention that the Cavs don’t have the cap space to eat Warren’s contract so the Suns would more than likely to have to take back one of their terrible deals as well, probably Clarkson.

And if y’all are offering the 2019 pick unprotected then that changes everything

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I only say that because the Suns might not want to add another young player to the mix in 2019.

They'd have Trae, Booker, Jackson, Bender, Ayton, Chriss.It would be time to add some experienced vets.

On top of that, they're still owed two first rd picks from the Heat & Bucks....The Heat pick being unprotected.

Getting Trae now would probably be equivalent to picking top 10 next year.I think they could afford to burn a pick.

 

[#1 pick]

I only say that because the Suns might not want to add another young player to the mix in 2019.

They'd have Trae, Booker, Jackson, Bender, Ayton, Chriss.It would be time to add some experienced vets.

On top of that, they're still owed two first rd picks from the Heat & Bucks....The Heat pick being unprotected.

Getting Trae now would probably be equivalent to picking top 10 next year.I think they could afford to burn a pick.

You don't know what PHX will do next off season. Players disappoint, some play too well and that value could be better next year. I honestly think your best asset is the Miami pick in 2020 outside of this year's 1st.

That said, you never ever trade a 1st unprotected after a 19 win season.

 

[#1 pick]

I only say that because the Suns might not want to add another young player to the mix in 2019.

They'd have Trae, Booker, Jackson, Bender, Ayton, Chriss.It would be time to add some experienced vets.

On top of that, they're still owed two first rd picks from the Heat & Bucks....The Heat pick being unprotected.

Getting Trae now would probably be equivalent to picking top 10 next year.I think they could afford to burn a pick.

You are assuming that this all works out. The NBA draft is still a crapshoot, its not that easy but in hindsight. You might as well go for someone proven like Kemba if you offering all that.

The Knicks would be set for years if they got an offer like this. It's not like the Suns making the playoffs anyway.

Damn, you damn near begging Kyrie to go to NY with this offer

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You don't know what PHX will do next off season. Players disappoint, some play too well and that value could be better next year. I honestly think your best asset is the Miami pick in 2020 outside of this year's 1st.

Me to.That's why I think they should offer their own pick if they plan to trade for Trae Young.

I'm expecting them to win at least 10 more games next season.By '19/'20, a squad with

Booker, Ayton, and Josh Jackson shouldn't be at the top of the lottery anymore.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You are assuming that this all works out. The NBA draft is still a crapshoot, its not that easy but in hindsight. You might as well go for someone proven like Kemba if you offering all that.

The Knicks would be set for years if they got an offer like this. It's not like the Suns making the playoffs anyway.

Damn, you damn near begging Kyrie to go to NY with this offer

You're right.It's a crapshoot.You gotta roll the dice and take risk.

What's Kemba's contract situation looking like?

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Honestly, I don't know how Kemba fits next to Booker.I'd rather have a 3 & D guy like Patrick Beverley next to Booker