The OFFICIAL 2018 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

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Candid Coaches: Who are the most overrated and underrated college football coaches?

Taggart and Franklin were tied for the most overrated. Shaw and Petersen were tied for the most underrated

Explain yourselves (overrated)

  • "James Franklin. His coaching peers know he is full of it."
  • "I would say Willie Taggart at Florida State. He was only at Oregon for one year, and it's not like he really transformed that program -- and that's a place that's won for a long time. Not that he isn't good -- he's won. But usually when you get a job like Florida State, it's because you've won some championships or done something really amazing."
  • "[David Shaw] does a great job but, oh my Lord, I mean, it's like God's gift to football. I didn't say he didn't do a good job."
  • "Willie Taggart because he still has a career losing record."
  • "When [Franklin] got the Penn State job, I thought, 'Man, he's a good marketer.' He did a nice job with that. It'll be interesting without Saquon [Barkley]. He's underrated. He turns a lot of no[-gain] plays into 60-yard touchdowns."
  • "I'm probably a little jealous [of Lane Kiffin]. If you're born on third base, that's great, but don't think you hit a triple."
  • "We're going to see in the next three years [what happens with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M]. That disaster last year at Florida State, he prides himself on being just like Nick Saban. He only worked for him for a couple of years. He never has the organizational skills. He flies by the seat [of his pants]. It looks like it's organized and the words he uses are the same, but if you talk to people who work in his office, the desk is sloppy, the rooms are sloppy."
  • "If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."
  • "I like Urban [Meyer], but there have been some characters that played for him that I thought should have not allowed."
Explain yourselves (underrated)
  • "I thought what [Dan Mullen] did at Mississippi State was amazing. Mississippi State, who wants to take that job?"
  • "Mark Dantonio [is underrated]. He gets no respect because he isn't flashy and in the same state with a flashy guy that is unproven and hasn't won a big game yet."
  • "Underrated would be Blake Anderson at Arkansas State. They've won every year. Blake does a great job, and I never hear his name for jobs to move up."
  • "Underrated is Chris Petersen at Washington. There's a program that, prior to the last five years, had been down for a long, long time, and he's done an unbelievable job."
  • "[Stanford] can beat anybody in the country on any Saturday."
  • "[Jeff Brohm and Paul Chryst] I've always said, 'Show me a coach that wins at Alabama and Clemson, I'll show you a good coach. Show me a coach that wins at Wake Forest, I'll show you a great coach.' It's hard to mess it up at Ohio State and Penn State. It's really hard to win at Iowa State."
Breaking it down
Interestingly enough, three coaches -- David Shaw (Stanford), Tom Herman (Texas) and Kirk Ferentz (Iowa) -- received votes in both polls. As one would expect, the comments regarding the most underrated coaches were quite tame compared to those for those considered overrated by their peers.

Nick Saban (Alabama) and Jimbo Fisher (Texas A&M) took some significant shots above, but both only received a single vote from their peers as "overrated." Calling Franklin "full of it" is interesting considering he took Vanderbilt from 6-7 in his first season to 9-4 in consecutive years before taking Penn State from 7-6 in its first two seasons to 11 wins in each of his last two. Meanwhile, comments on Taggart mostly surrounded jealously that he obtained a job like FSU despite not necessarily putting the resume on paper that some others have to this point in their careers.

:whew: Lot of jealousy and hurt feelings going on in these statements.


I'm really starting to miss Steve Spurrier. He use to regulate these fools.
 

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Former Michigan WR transferring to USF
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Eddie McDoom during his sophomore season. Photo by Andy Shippy, The Wolverine Lounge
Former Michigan WR Eddie McDoom intends to transfer to USF, a source tells The Wolverine Lounge.

TWL reported last week that McDoom was leaving the program following the first week of fall camp.

The Winter Garden, Fla. native committed to Michigan late in the process after de-committing from Oregon, as a part of the 2016 class.

While at Michigan, the rising junior caught 13 passes for 110 yards.

McDoom returns to his home state to play for former Texas head coach Charlie Strong.

UCF was also in the mix for his transfer
 
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