I ain't ask u all that
The Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread
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You didn't have toI ain't ask u all that
:Oakley:You didn't have to
Let me guess he ain't a NFL QB but Jared Goff, Blake Bortles, Blane Gabbert, and the countless other cac busts in the league are?
Dobbs got too much melanin to be a NFL QB?
You cacs are so open with your racist now with Trump in office. No more hiding it right?
WTF
To say Dobbs regressed is simply false. There is no objective measure you can cite to prove this ridiculous statement.
As a senior Dobbs set career highs in passing yards, rushing yards, passing TDs, rushing TDs, completion percentage, yards per pass attempt, yards per rush attempt, and QB rating. He was named SEC offensive player of the year by Athlon Sports.
He literally set career highs in every statistical category as a senior. He also led the SEC in QB rating, passing TDs, and total TDs. He also led Tennessee to a school record in points and had Tennessee as the second best scoring offense in the SEC.
You literally have nothing to stand on by claiming he regressed. That is totally and absolutely FALSE.
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Like Deion said he's paid to cover not tackle. Cam Sutton will be a shutdown cover corner. Get some linebackers and safeties if you want great tacklers.
TUA TAGOVAILOA
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Lol I hope he set career highs his senior year since he didn't do shyt his first 3 years. He had more INT than TD his first 2 seasons. And his third season, when he was supposed to break out, he sucked.WTF
To say Dobbs regressed is simply false. There is no objective measure you can cite to prove this ridiculous statement.
As a senior Dobbs set career highs in passing yards, rushing yards, passing TDs, rushing TDs, completion percentage, yards per pass attempt, yards per rush attempt, and QB rating. He was named SEC offensive player of the year by Athlon Sports.
He literally set career highs in every statistical category as a senior. He also led the SEC in QB rating, passing TDs, and total TDs. He also led Tennessee to a school record in points and had Tennessee as the second best scoring offense in the SEC.
You literally have nothing to stand on by claiming he regressed. That is totally and absolutely FALSE.
He didn't necessarily regress, but he didn't improve like people thought he would. Which is basically the same thing as regressing when u have as much hype as he did
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open to a S now that LB is more stable, but Lamp might be the move. need that impact guard
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
Ringer Podcast, Mays and Lombardi. It is Lombardi so take it for what you want.
1:30 - 7:43 Lombardi killing Trubisky and hyping up Watson. one thing I agree with Mike on is, if Trubisky was so good, it is BS that Larry Fedora did not start him over Williams. As a Ducks and Mariota fan, I saw Chip pretty much bounce Darron Thomas for Marcus.
8:00: Is about Qb's to take a chance on ala Dak. Lombardi says Pitt QB Nathan Peterman, meh. Lombardi then says Dak is a bit different, hit on all of Parcells QB's check marks.
11:45 -17:18: Peppers. @Smitty and tOSU fans will loves this part. Lombardi kills Peppers. Peppers does not have a position in the NFL and Michigan tried to hide him. Says delano hill(Calls him delano hall tho) was a better player then him for UM. And like I said it is lombardi so take of it what you will. But dude is saying nothing any of us non UM fans have thought about Peppers. Tho, Mike goes full tOSU after breaking him down with. Peppers is "Like having a expensive watch but your always looking at your phone". Also a interesting point about Mock drafts in this segment.
17:18 - 20:27: Some Cam stuff. Protect him..
20:30: Zeke, this was a weird segment. About Zeke partying and gambling in vegas. Agents not having control over him and what not. This is pretty much a, but Gronk..
23:00 Random Q's..
Good listen. Lot's to agree with, and disagree with.
Listening to this now on my way to work
Dude bodied Peppers
Interesting that he thinks there is only 15 or 16 players in the draft with a 1st round grade
Once again you're changing the subject. You tried to prop up Nate Peterman vis-a-vis Dobbs by claiming that although Dobbs beat him out as a sophomore, Peterman continued to improve while Dobbs REGRESSED. That's your word not mine.
Now you're saying you admit he didn't regress. He simply wasn't as good his junior year as many predicted. Not having a breakout season doesn't mean he regressed. As you point out he was pretty pathetic as a TRUE freshmen and sophomore. However, he did improve as a junior with career highs in every statistical category except completion percentage. Then as a senior he had career highs in every statistical category.
So you are absolutely wrong to say Dobbs regressed. He NEVER regressed during his college career. His numbers bear that out. He was bad as a TRUE freshmen, he improved a lot as a sophomore, improved only slightly as a junior, and then made his biggest improvement as a senior. That is not regression. Its the complete opposite. Its a guy who is constantly improving. Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson both shared the same trendline of getting better every year in college. And unlike them, Dobbs didn't have the benefit of a redshirt year. He was pressed into duty as a TRUE freshmen before he was ready to play because Nathan Peterman was so bad. Yes you read that right. Butch Jones burned Josh Dobbs redshirt as a TRUE freshmen to start the final few games of the season because Nathan Peterman was trash.
You can say Dobbs never lived up to the hype as a college QB. I would agree with that. I was one of the people hyping him up to be better than what he accomplished. However, just because he failed to live up to the hype doesn't mean he regressed. And it sure as hell doesn't mean Nate Peterman was better than him college. Look up the stats. Dobbs was better than Peterman as a senior across the board.
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Listening to this now on my way to work
Dude bodied Peppers
Interesting that he thinks there is only 15 or 16 players in the draft with a 1st round grade
This dude is buggin.
This is the most talented draft I can remember. There are so many good players it's ridiculous. It might not have a bunch of surefire hall of fame caliber top 5-10 picks. But it is filled with quality mid to late first round caliber players deep into the second round.
The depth of talent in this years draft reminds me of the 1996 NFL Draft. If you don't know, that draft holds the record for most pro bowl selections in NFL history. It doesn't have the most hall of famers but its almost always mentioned as one of the best drafts of the last 30 years because of the depth of quality pro bowl caliber players. That's how I see the 2017 draft playing out. It might not end up producing the most hall of famers but it'll produce a ton of pro bowl caliber players.
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TUA TAGOVAILOA
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I'm not changing the subject. I never compared Peterman to Dobbs in college b/c it doesn't matter. And Peterman finished with better passing #s for his career than Dobbs did anyway...
Having a bad season after getting a ton of hype is the definition of regressing. And he had a good senior season but nothing great. He didn't get worse, but considering how people were projecting him, he regressed as a prospect in everyone's mind since he didn't get better like everyone thought he would.
His #'s getting better doesn't mean he progressed. But yea he didn't get worse like I said, he just didn't get much better like he was supposed to. Same thing as regressing pretty much
Yea I never compared their college careers, Dobbs game is obviously more suitable for college since the biggest part of his game is running the ball in a spread/read option offense. But Peterman had better career passing #s....and the rushing #s won't matter in the NFL so yea.
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TUA TAGOVAILOA
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Dobbs had 53 passing TDs to 29 INTs. 61% completion on 6.9 YPA
Peterman had 47 passing TDs to 15 INTs. 61% completion on 8.7 YPA
So u can stop saying Dobbs had better stats too since the rushing will be irrelevant in the NFL
Peterman had 47 passing TDs to 15 INTs. 61% completion on 8.7 YPA
So u can stop saying Dobbs had better stats too since the rushing will be irrelevant in the NFL
TUA TAGOVAILOA
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And Peterman didn't have 6 NFL WRs along with Marshall Faulk and Eddie George at RB
Hurts what Swag did to you