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Unless you're getting Fultz, it's a dumb azz trade. Ford tweeted it, so there you go.
The Official 2017 NBA Draft Talk Thread
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Buddy cant even guard a backup PG let alone Steph, Russ, etc
PG defense can be really valuable if the PG can switch onto bigger players...
I get that but still when I think of maybe the top 10 PGs they all get off due to screens and space etc (pause)...It would need to be a super special Gary Payton level defender to stop some of them even Beverly as smothering as he is they get off on him and it's not any stopping any dudes like Curry he is can get off anywhere past half court
Well yeah I agree thats why even though Fox is the best on-ball defender out of all the PGs, I think Ball/Ntilikina will have way more impact due to the ability to switch. Fox is just too skinny to check bigger guys. There is way more added value in a PG being able to cancel out a potential mismatch to exploit. Look at Marcus Smart.
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I think Magic is gonna go all out for LeBron
No, PG defense is easily one of the most overrated skills of their game. Practically none of the elite point guards are elite defenders nor were projected to play elite defense. As long as you dont draft a guy who doesnt put in any effort on defense you're fine.
And no it isnt valuable if they can guard bigger players because no bigs really punish mismatches anymore. If anything its valuable if your big can guard smaller players because you got guys like steph, kyrie and dame breaking down big guys all night. There isnt any bigs punishing smalls on a consistent basis. The game has moved away from that.
this whole post is dumb
A guy like Ntilikina or Donvoan Mitchell can switch onto 3s and stretch 4s and their length prevents them from shooting over them.
Marcus Smart can do that as well.
Name the top 5 point guards in the game. Do they play elite defense? Do they even guard their man?
And who are these traditional low post bigs/forwards that we're trying to defend on switches? Theres only about 4 or 5 of them and most of them arent even on playoff teams.
But is that really a valuable skill? Most of the 3s and stretch 4s that are comfortable shooting over you would make the shot anyway regardless of whose guarding them (KD, Dirk, hell even Ryan Anderson). Those guys arent even killing guys on switches anyway because 9 times out of 10 you should be fighting through screens instead of switching regardless.
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who cares what the top 5 guards do? that has absolutely nothing to do with the value of being able to guard multiple positions.
and who said anything about traditional bigs? are you illiterate? I said bigger players. The whole value of a guy like Tatum is the idea is he can use PnR to get a favorable mismatch against a small guard in the post or a slow big on the perimeter. Thats modern basketball 101.
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Who cares how tall Dame Lillard is in socks...the game is played with shoes on. Lillard gets buckets too so it's irrelevant.
D loading heel turn on here
He needs to bring more to the table than that as a top prospect to me. Being able to guard multiple positions at point guard isn't that valuable because thats practically no longer in the job description anymore. He needs to be able to bring it on offense too.
Theres practically 3 forwards in the league that are consistently killing guards in the post and killing bigs on the perimeter. Kevin durant, kawhi leonard and lebron james. But you cant guard those guys anyway. At the 1 id rather have my players be able to get me 20+ points.