The OFFICIAL 2016 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Its scary fam

 

[jadillac]

I just read the most asinine article... i thought @Swagnificent wrote it. I mean this is the most "fukk what actually happened...let me tell you what we in Tennessee saw" shyt written.

Four Reasons Joshua Dobbs Could be Better than Deshaun Watson

How great can Tennessee football quarterback Joshua Dobbs be? Here are four reasons the Volunteers senior could exceed Clemson’s Deshaun Watson in 2016.
Joshua Dobbs and Deshaun Watson have many similar attributes on the surface. Both are mobile quarterbacks from Georgia. Both play for teams with orange colors in cutting-edge pro-style offenses that have spread formations. Finally, both have high expectations for this year.

After leading the Clemson Tigers to the national championship game last year, Watson naturally has much higher expectations than Dobbs. After all, Watson nearly single-handedly led the Tigers to the national title against the Alabama Crimson Tide.

However, don’t discount how great Dobbs can be just yet. Last week, we did post an article on the four things that Dobbs needs to improve on.

While all of those things are true, there are many attributes to Dobbs’s game. Some of them are also rare attributes for a mobile quarterback.

If he can keep those attributes and fine-tune those specific weaknesses, there is a chance Dobbs plays better than Watson.

Spoiler: 1. Decision-Making on Passes

Last week, we said that to become a better quarterback, Joshua Dobbs has to show much more patience and be smarter about avoiding hits. Although those are two areas of decision-making he needs to improve on, his pass selection is a different story.

Dobbs always does a great job of making sure to find the open man and not to kill drives. As a result, he only threw five interceptions last year.

On the other hand, Deshaun Watson threw 13 interceptions. Yes, he was eight points higher in his completion percentage, but Watson clearly showed much more of a determination to make a play on anything, regardless of whether or not something is there.

That can become a problem at times, and it causes interceptions. Even in his epic national title game performance, Watson threw a crucial interception early against the Alabama Crimson Tide.

His interception there cost his team the game. His great performance would have been better without that pick.

Meanwhile, although he struggles with accuracy, Dobbs almost always picks the right person to throw the ball to. He also throws it away at the right time.

Dobbs still makes things happens with his legs, but he is also always smart about doing that as well.

His intelligence as an aerospace engineer clearly pays off in playing the probability game on the football field. That also comes in handy down the stretch of big, tough moments. And that brings us to our next reason that Dobbs could be superior to Watson.

Spoiler: 2. Proven Performer in Big Moments

This one comes across as a bit confusing to many. Deshaun Watson threw for 405 yards and four touchdowns against the elite Alabama Crimson Tide defense in the national championship game.

At the same time, he had 73 rushing yards.

However, Watson did have a crucial interception, as we mentioned earlier, and they still lost. In fact, Watson put up most of those stats with his team down two scores.

Meanwhile, against the Oklahoma Sooners, he only had 187 passing yards to go with a touchdown and an interception. His 145 rushing yards and one touchdown are commendable in that game as well.

In the regular season, Watson threw for 297 yards and ran for 107 against the Florida State Seminoles.

Again, these are great numbers. But Clemson only put up 23 points in that game, and the Seminoles were rebuilding.

As an SEC player, Dobbs has actually shown more consistent performances in big moments. He once led the Vols back from a two-touchdown deficit with three minutes left, and a year later he led the Vols back from a three-touchdown deficit. Those games were against the South Carolina Gamecocks and Georgia Bulldogs respectively.

Both times, he had three passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns, 300 passing yards, and 100 rushing yards.

Dobbs also did his part to beat the Florida Gators last year, and he had no line help while struggling against the Oklahoma Sooners and Alabama Crimson Tide. Watson had three All-American linemen protecting him.

When you break it down just by numbers, Watson has overall been a better performer in big moments. However, he had lots of help and never just willed his team to victory.

Dobbs has willed Tennessee to victory in impossible situations. That’s an advantage, and it also leads to our next point.

Spoiler: 3. Leadership Abilities

When you watched Deshaun Watson last year in the national championship game, you couldn’t help but praise him in how he acted alone to nearly beat the Alabama Crimson Tide.

While that is a testament to his talents, it could actually be a condemnation of his leadership.

Watson never seemed to inspire the play of any of his other teammates, and as a result he was left doing all the work by himself. The same cannot be said about Joshua Dobbs when he gets into a rhythm.

In those comebacks he led, Dobbs managed to rally the entire team, and you could see everybody step their game up. It was evident against Georgia last year when he converted a fourth and long for a touchdown.

The defense immediately came alive.

For Dobbs, everything he does is about promoting his team. Watson already has been discussed in an article about his brand…and he’s not even in the NFL yet.

That’s not to blame him, to be fair. Watson definitely earned a brand after his amazing play last year.

But it is to say that Dobbs has shown more of an ability to rally his teammates in tough situations.

Dabo Swinney and the Clemson coaching staff said as much during the offseason. They are looking for Watson to take on a more vocal role as the quarterback.

In Knoxville, Dobbs doesn’t have that problem. He’s an unquestioned leader who was unsurprisingly voted team captain.

On top of all this, though, there’s a bit of raw talent that gives Dobbs the edge as well. That brings us to our fourth point.

Spoiler: 4. Athletic Ability

Despite rushing for 1,100 yards and 12 touchdowns on 207 carries on top of his 4,100 passing yards, Deshaun Watson is not as good of a runner as Joshua Dobbs.

We say that even though Dobbs only had 671 yards on 146 carries and 11 touchdowns on top of less than 2,300 yards passing. Yes, stats wise, Watson is way better.

But Watson was going up against much weaker competition all year long in an atrocious ACC, and he was padding his stats in the process. Dobbs had to deal with a brutal SEC schedule in a more rigid offense under Mike DeBord.

Still, when you look at how they run, Dobbs is better. Dobbs has shown more speed in avoiding sacks and tackles when he runs down the sideline, evidenced by the fact that he also caught a 50-yard touchdown pass and outran the Florida Gators secondary last year.

Also, Dobbs is more physical. We have already cautioned him about staying healthy and avoiding bit hits, but it can’t be denied that he’s able to run like a running back. With his thin lower body, Dobbs is deceptively strong like Tim Tebow or Dak Prescott.

Finally, and this goes back to our decision making, Dobbs has better vision as a runner too. To be able to think quick while running is still an athletic ability.

Overall, while he may not be as accurate as Deshaun Watson, Dobbs is actually the more athletic quarterback. He just doesn’t pad the same stats because Tennessee runs much more of a balanced offense under Jones.

If y'all can read this without laughing...I commend you all... lol

Where's @BigSteve to make sense of this

something about Dobbs makes me think he doesn't LOVE football like that. He's more into his aerospace stuff but happens to be good at football.

Unless there's a miraculous jump, I dont even see how him and Watson are comparable.

 

[FakeNews]

Here's a sampling of the worst losses from Power 5 coaches' careers:

Gus Malzahn, Auburn: Two HS state championships + Florida State 34, Auburn 31, 2014
The worst coaching loss of my career, there's a couple that stand out -- two when I was in high school. Our two state championship games we lost, one was in double overtime. The other one was at the very end, and then probably the Florida State game from 2013. Those three really stick with me. I think about those once a week. One, 1994, that was the first place I coached, and we lost 17-13 at the very end. The other one, when Rhett Lashlee was my quarterback and we lost in double overtime to a team that we probably should've beat. And of course the Florida State (national championship) game when they threw a touchdown toward the very end. Those were the three. It motivates you. The only time I think about the championship (we won) is when somebody brings it up, but once a week I think about [those losses] and it just motivates you as a coach.

David Cutcliffe, Duke: Miami 30, Duke 27, 2015
Miami, 2015. Our team did an incredible job of getting a win and then I've never experienced anything like that. Hopefully never will again. That's without a doubt, no hesitation. There's not a close second.

Bobby Petrino, Louisville: Rutgers 28, Louisville 25, 2006
Rutgers, 2006. We win that game, we have an opportunity to probably play for the national championship. We were in control of the game and they came back in the second half. They kicked a last-second field goal, which he missed. We jumped offsides. They got to kick it again. It was one of those things that was devastating to our team at the time, but very proud about how we came back and didn't lose another game that year.

Dave Clawson, Wake Forest: Youngstown State 37, Villanova 34, 1997
1997, Villanova. We were 12-0 and the No. 1 team in the country and we played Youngstown State that year in the second round of the playoffs. We had a punt blocked. We got sacked and they picked it up and returned it for a touchdown and we lost a heartbreaking game to Youngstown, who went on to win a national championship. Even 20 years later, that one still stings. That was probably a team that was good enough to win a national championship and we beat ourselves against a very well-coached team.

Dabo Swinney, Clemson: Alabama 45, Clemson 40, 2016
January 11. That one is still with me.


Mark Richt, Miami: Oklahoma 13, Florida State 2, 2001
The last game I coached at Florida State as the offensive coordinator playing in the national championship game against Oklahoma. We scored a whopping zero points. Our defense scored two. I didn't coach well. We didn't play well. It was a chance to be right there to win a third national championship for Coach Bowden. In the last game there it would have been a nice way to finish.

Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech: Southern Miss 49, Houston 28, 2011
I was at the University of Houston in 2011, we were 12-0, we were going to go to the Sugar Bowl and we lost in the Conference USA championship game at home to Southern Miss. We were really good. We should've went undefeated and we kinda choked. That one still haunts me, yeah.

Bill Snyder, Kansas State: Texas A&M 36, Kansas State 33, 1998
You have enough losses that all of them are painful. My guesstimate right now without thinking about it is probably the conference championship game in the '98 season ... where we were the No. 1 team in the nation and played in the conference championship game, had a 16-point lead or something like that going into the fourth quarter and lost the ballgame. That was pretty disappointing.

Kirby Smart, Georgia: Auburn 10, LSU 9, 2004
It's hard because you remember the losses so vividly. I guess from being at Alabama for nine years, you certainly remember a lot of the losses, but I guess that being my first year as a full-time SEC coach (at LSU). So I go from being a GA to being a -- because they had just won the national title, so my expectation was we're going to win another one at LSU. We had a lot of the players back, and this first really, really big game, in Jordan-Hare, and we had the game won. Everything had to happen exactly right for [Auburn] to win and there was like four or five plays in a row that were really crazy freaky plays. If that game comes back up on ESPN Classic, I'll see it, and I'm like, 'That is amazing that those four things happened for the outcome to be what it did.' They went on to an undefeated season. I guess if they had lost four or five games it wouldn't have been as big of a loss, but it's a fact that they went on to win them all. I'll be honest with you, when I say it haunts me, it's one of the ones that sticks out the most, because I thought we could've won it.

'That one still haunts me': Coaches describe their worst losses

 

[Freddie.Cane]

Here's a sampling of the worst losses from Power 5 coaches' careers:

Gus Malzahn, Auburn: Two HS state championships + Florida State 34, Auburn 31, 2014
The worst coaching loss of my career, there's a couple that stand out -- two when I was in high school. Our two state championship games we lost, one was in double overtime. The other one was at the very end, and then probably the Florida State game from 2013. Those three really stick with me. I think about those once a week. One, 1994, that was the first place I coached, and we lost 17-13 at the very end. The other one, when Rhett Lashlee was my quarterback and we lost in double overtime to a team that we probably should've beat. And of course the Florida State (national championship) game when they threw a touchdown toward the very end. Those were the three. It motivates you. The only time I think about the championship (we won) is when somebody brings it up, but once a week I think about [those losses] and it just motivates you as a coach.

David Cutcliffe, Duke: Miami 30, Duke 27, 2015
Miami, 2015. Our team did an incredible job of getting a win and then I've never experienced anything like that. Hopefully never will again. That's without a doubt, no hesitation. There's not a close second.

Bobby Petrino, Louisville: Rutgers 28, Louisville 25, 2006
Rutgers, 2006. We win that game, we have an opportunity to probably play for the national championship. We were in control of the game and they came back in the second half. They kicked a last-second field goal, which he missed. We jumped offsides. They got to kick it again. It was one of those things that was devastating to our team at the time, but very proud about how we came back and didn't lose another game that year.

Dave Clawson, Wake Forest: Youngstown State 37, Villanova 34, 1997
1997, Villanova. We were 12-0 and the No. 1 team in the country and we played Youngstown State that year in the second round of the playoffs. We had a punt blocked. We got sacked and they picked it up and returned it for a touchdown and we lost a heartbreaking game to Youngstown, who went on to win a national championship. Even 20 years later, that one still stings. That was probably a team that was good enough to win a national championship and we beat ourselves against a very well-coached team.

Dabo Swinney, Clemson: Alabama 45, Clemson 40, 2016
January 11. That one is still with me.


Mark Richt, Miami: Oklahoma 13, Florida State 2, 2001
The last game I coached at Florida State as the offensive coordinator playing in the national championship game against Oklahoma. We scored a whopping zero points. Our defense scored two. I didn't coach well. We didn't play well. It was a chance to be right there to win a third national championship for Coach Bowden. In the last game there it would have been a nice way to finish.

Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech: Southern Miss 49, Houston 28, 2011
I was at the University of Houston in 2011, we were 12-0, we were going to go to the Sugar Bowl and we lost in the Conference USA championship game at home to Southern Miss. We were really good. We should've went undefeated and we kinda choked. That one still haunts me, yeah.

Bill Snyder, Kansas State: Texas A&M 36, Kansas State 33, 1998
You have enough losses that all of them are painful. My guesstimate right now without thinking about it is probably the conference championship game in the '98 season ... where we were the No. 1 team in the nation and played in the conference championship game, had a 16-point lead or something like that going into the fourth quarter and lost the ballgame. That was pretty disappointing.

Kirby Smart, Georgia: Auburn 10, LSU 9, 2004
It's hard because you remember the losses so vividly. I guess from being at Alabama for nine years, you certainly remember a lot of the losses, but I guess that being my first year as a full-time SEC coach (at LSU). So I go from being a GA to being a -- because they had just won the national title, so my expectation was we're going to win another one at LSU. We had a lot of the players back, and this first really, really big game, in Jordan-Hare, and we had the game won. Everything had to happen exactly right for [Auburn] to win and there was like four or five plays in a row that were really crazy freaky plays. If that game comes back up on ESPN Classic, I'll see it, and I'm like, 'That is amazing that those four things happened for the outcome to be what it did.' They went on to an undefeated season. I guess if they had lost four or five games it wouldn't have been as big of a loss, but it's a fact that they went on to win them all. I'll be honest with you, when I say it haunts me, it's one of the ones that sticks out the most, because I thought we could've won it.

'That one still haunts me': Coaches describe their worst losses

at Cutcliffe saying they won

 

[RammerJammer]

Best CFB programs per state by CBS Sports

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Best CFB programs per state by CBS Sports

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

5 star Kendall Sheffield leaving bama?

Jumbo Package: Thin DB corps may be getting thinner as Kendall Sheffield is not practicing

He looked good in this video IMO

 

[Lee_Land]

at Cutcliffe saying they won

nikka been for 6months now.

Hoe ass nikka seems to forget Juwon Young stopped that QB sneak on the goaline. But that stadium didn't have a camera on that side to confirm. Or the Artie Burns interception earlier on the last drive.

 

[smitty22]

Best CFB programs per state by CBS Sports

USC aint even the main event in Cali :Scustbrutus: @Silkk

 

[Tide Run This]

Here's a sampling of the worst losses from Power 5 coaches' careers:

Gus Malzahn, Auburn: Two HS state championships + Florida State 34, Auburn 31, 2014
The worst coaching loss of my career, there's a couple that stand out -- two when I was in high school. Our two state championship games we lost, one was in double overtime. The other one was at the very end, and then probably the Florida State game from 2013. Those three really stick with me. I think about those once a week. One, 1994, that was the first place I coached, and we lost 17-13 at the very end. The other one, when Rhett Lashlee was my quarterback and we lost in double overtime to a team that we probably should've beat. And of course the Florida State (national championship) game when they threw a touchdown toward the very end. Those were the three. It motivates you. The only time I think about the championship (we won) is when somebody brings it up, but once a week I think about [those losses] and it just motivates you as a coach.

David Cutcliffe, Duke: Miami 30, Duke 27, 2015
Miami, 2015. Our team did an incredible job of getting a win and then I've never experienced anything like that. Hopefully never will again. That's without a doubt, no hesitation. There's not a close second.

Bobby Petrino, Louisville: Rutgers 28, Louisville 25, 2006
Rutgers, 2006. We win that game, we have an opportunity to probably play for the national championship. We were in control of the game and they came back in the second half. They kicked a last-second field goal, which he missed. We jumped offsides. They got to kick it again. It was one of those things that was devastating to our team at the time, but very proud about how we came back and didn't lose another game that year.

Dave Clawson, Wake Forest: Youngstown State 37, Villanova 34, 1997
1997, Villanova. We were 12-0 and the No. 1 team in the country and we played Youngstown State that year in the second round of the playoffs. We had a punt blocked. We got sacked and they picked it up and returned it for a touchdown and we lost a heartbreaking game to Youngstown, who went on to win a national championship. Even 20 years later, that one still stings. That was probably a team that was good enough to win a national championship and we beat ourselves against a very well-coached team.

Dabo Swinney, Clemson: Alabama 45, Clemson 40, 2016
January 11. That one is still with me.


Mark Richt, Miami: Oklahoma 13, Florida State 2, 2001
The last game I coached at Florida State as the offensive coordinator playing in the national championship game against Oklahoma. We scored a whopping zero points. Our defense scored two. I didn't coach well. We didn't play well. It was a chance to be right there to win a third national championship for Coach Bowden. In the last game there it would have been a nice way to finish.

Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech: Southern Miss 49, Houston 28, 2011
I was at the University of Houston in 2011, we were 12-0, we were going to go to the Sugar Bowl and we lost in the Conference USA championship game at home to Southern Miss. We were really good. We should've went undefeated and we kinda choked. That one still haunts me, yeah.

Bill Snyder, Kansas State: Texas A&M 36, Kansas State 33, 1998
You have enough losses that all of them are painful. My guesstimate right now without thinking about it is probably the conference championship game in the '98 season ... where we were the No. 1 team in the nation and played in the conference championship game, had a 16-point lead or something like that going into the fourth quarter and lost the ballgame. That was pretty disappointing.

Kirby Smart, Georgia: Auburn 10, LSU 9, 2004
It's hard because you remember the losses so vividly. I guess from being at Alabama for nine years, you certainly remember a lot of the losses, but I guess that being my first year as a full-time SEC coach (at LSU). So I go from being a GA to being a -- because they had just won the national title, so my expectation was we're going to win another one at LSU. We had a lot of the players back, and this first really, really big game, in Jordan-Hare, and we had the game won. Everything had to happen exactly right for [Auburn] to win and there was like four or five plays in a row that were really crazy freaky plays. If that game comes back up on ESPN Classic, I'll see it, and I'm like, 'That is amazing that those four things happened for the outcome to be what it did.' They went on to an undefeated season. I guess if they had lost four or five games it wouldn't have been as big of a loss, but it's a fact that they went on to win them all. I'll be honest with you, when I say it haunts me, it's one of the ones that sticks out the most, because I thought we could've won it.

'That one still haunts me': Coaches describe their worst losses

fukk Mark Richt man we should've had back to back fukk Snoop Minnis for flunking out too

 

[Tide Run This]

at Cutcliffe saying they won

That shyt was rigged Duke season really went in the tank after that

 

[hood b. goode]

I remember watching Miami lateral the ball bout 17 times on Duke

 

[MMS]

the worst loss ive ever witnessed personally was Auburn losing to USF in 2007



i still remember this dude in a green and shiny gold singlet that was c00ning in the visitors section, fukk him

 

[No Sleep]

#SpursUp

This kid is going to be a beast. I'm calling it.

 

[Tide Run This]

the worst loss ive ever witnessed personally was Auburn losing to USF in 2007



i still remember this dude in a green and shiny gold singlet that was c00ning in the visitors section, fukk him

Didn't them nikkas move up to #2 in the rankings that year