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A few years ago I was a believer of God and Jesus as the son of God, I then moved on from that to a more spiritual approach, I have since left this idea as well. These days as sad as it is to say I don't believe in anything, I feel our lives are not important, there is no destiny, there is nothing. We are just animals on a planet just like any other animal and we are naturally here simply because this planet can sustain life therefore will breed life.

It's a very depressing outlook but my experiences have led me here at this point. I personally feel the human mind loves the fairy tale, they want to be loved and taken care after so your mind will naturally gravitate towards those feelings.

Don't be depressed.

The fairy tale was created by man, I'm Christian, but things are very random it is Theology that tells us things are planned.

For instance sin went from defying God to the Persian theology (Zoroastrianism) of it being a way to get blessing and getting into heaven.

Even judgment day is a Persian (Zoroastrianism) concept.

It sucks, but the New Testament is a hodge podge mish mash of so many pagan, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Persian concepts.

Besides Paul's 7 Epistle's (Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Phillipians, Philemon, Thessalonians, Galatians), the rest of the New Testament is a tough read.
 

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If you want peace and tranquility in your life, you have to infuse all the elements that is needed to form the peacefulness in your life. It's the GOD in you that can create a peaceful life.
 

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How many paths will people take till the realization takes hold that each of them goes right off the cliff?

I'll be glad when my chains are loosed.
How they go off a cliff breh?

Also its good to know and understand IMO.
 
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The chamber is lined with many lit torches, the flicker of flames licking the walls with precious light but not enough to completely remove veil of darkness that abides.

Even though the vision is somewhat obscured, the sounds within the room paint a better portrait than whatever my eyes could process. The rythym of drums rapping at a steady beat, followed by the harmony of stomping feet and clapping hands. The chorus of voices chanting in unison, the room trembles around me and a trance envelopes me.

I am flanked by a multitude of men and women decorated in colors and loosely adorned in white linens, the temperature has increased noticeably..sweat is dripping from my brow and I notice that the bodies of the worshippers have become slick with sweat, their bodies periodically glimmering in fiery luminescence. Their almost synchronized movements further move me into a trance..

She is cloaked with white, standing in the center, buffeted by a company of female dancers to whom seem under her command by manner of her somewhat violent exhortations. I will change all of this.. I am covered in a black cloak, my nakedness consumed by my perception of the darkness. The heat is becoming oppressive. The constant drumming, the voices and the movement is overwhelming my senses..the priestess snarls at me, sensing my weakness perhaps? That I'm not worthy to be within the confines of this sacred place? My anger burns at this imagined insult. I steady myself, focusing on that anger, amplifying it. Bringing up from the grave, from my memories..the loss of my mother, the death of my father, the pain of childhood and of sacrifices, the loss of freedom. The anger morphs to rage yet I remain in control of it with intense focus and meditation. Amplifying that energy, testing the limits of my mind nearly breaching sanity till I hear a simple, powerful voice speak saying "Awaken!".

Suddenly there is a peace, a stillness. A ringing in the ears, my hands trembling, my eyes seeing things that I could not see earlier. I'm a passenger in my own body, loosely retaining some control of my faculties but I feel somewhat far away. I am not here, I am not Alex at the moment..The priestess calls out a name, something archaic, my body responds promptly by rising at her call. I don't feel the heat, I don't feel anything at the moment but an overwhelming sense of power, my senses have returned, sharpened. What have I become?
 

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I've might've taken on too much, Pandora box opened. Such a heavy, dark energy..very powerful.. if I can control him, harness the energy in the rage.. then the reward of power and knowledge will be well worth the incessant battles I'm constantly engaged in. I'm tired but I will not fail.
 

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Modern culture has been crafted with care out of the tenets of Luciferian thoughts.

Destroying all in roads to man's connection to the divine and reducing him to a bestial state, successful this move has been. All human expressions which directly feed and uplift the soul... arts,literature, music, etc.. have been rebranded as "modernist". Do not be deceived, souls are being harvested for oblivion.
 

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Satanism or more poetically, Luciferianism, is nothing more at it's core than the pursuit of balances. Chasing good to provoke evil and using evil to check the good, staying within a gray area where definition of human actions are lost in regards to meaning. Why? For license to pursue whatever is desired without emotional consequence, without having to justify to one's conscience. "Do what thou wilt"..

The philosophy that powers Lucifer's way is deemed evil by the profane. Such a thought is erroneous and exemplary of the hand fed dogma and flawed theocratic principles of the "supposed" Abrahamic religions, which themselves, have been imbued with overdoses of gnosticism and are a shadow of what they were a millennia ago. It's contemptible the hypocrisy of these adherents..

Evil not acknowledged nor that is what's considered good, only action led by principles to gain a higher plane of knowledge and vision. It's life led by a philosophy and a neverending chase to find the eternal secrets. It's at it's core, is laid as selfishness, because it's a coursework in doing for one's own self, empowering the flesh to rise and conquer the spirit.


@Glocck Lesnar @KaliOshun @BlackPearl The Empress @Booksnrain @The Grendel @Prima Donna
 

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Satanism or more poetically, Luciferianism, is nothing more at it's core than the pursuit of balances. Chasing good to provoke evil and using evil to check the good, staying within a gray area where definition of human actions are lost in regards to meaning. Why? For license to pursue whatever is desired without emotional consequence, without having to justify to one's conscience. "Do what thou wilt"..

The philosophy that powers Lucifer's way is deemed evil by the profane. Such a thought is erroneous and exemplary of the hand fed dogma and flawed theocratic principles of the "supposed" Abrahamic religions, which themselves, have been imbued with overdoses of gnosticism and are a shadow of what they were a millennia ago. It's contemptible the hypocrisy of these adherents..

Evil not acknowledged nor that is what's considered good, only action led by principles to gain a higher plane of knowledge and vision. It's life led by a philosophy and a neverending chase to find the eternal secrets. It's at it's core, is laid as selfishness, because it's a coursework in doing for one's own self, empowering the flesh to rise and conquer the spirit.


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Sounds a little like spiritual objectivism in that ur own desires are the center of your spiritual actions.
What would u say is the overarching end goal of Satanism? The overarching goal of most widely followed spiritual paths is balance and through that balance, transcendence/unity the highest representation of which is love.
My issue with Satanism is actually based on my own experiences with the philosophy. Working solely for my own desires doesn't bring me happiness to be real. It doesn't heal nor does it edify. It fosters qualities that pull me farther from my ultimate goal which is to nuture the divine in me.
 

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Satanism or more poetically, Luciferianism, is nothing more at it's core than the pursuit of balances. Chasing good to provoke evil and using evil to check the good, staying within a gray area where definition of human actions are lost in regards to meaning. Why? For license to pursue whatever is desired without emotional consequence, without having to justify to one's conscience. "Do what thou wilt"..

The philosophy that powers Lucifer's way is deemed evil by the profane. Such a thought is erroneous and exemplary of the hand fed dogma and flawed theocratic principles of the "supposed" Abrahamic religions, which themselves, have been imbued with overdoses of gnosticism and are a shadow of what they were a millennia ago. It's contemptible the hypocrisy of these adherents..

Evil not acknowledged nor that is what's considered good, only action led by principles to gain a higher plane of knowledge and vision. It's life led by a philosophy and a neverending chase to find the eternal secrets. It's at it's core, is laid as selfishness, because it's a coursework in doing for one's own self, empowering the flesh to rise and conquer the spirit.


@Glocck Lesnar @KaliOshun @BlackPearl The Empress @Booksnrain @The Grendel @Prima Donna
Masterfully and eloquently said my brother.
 

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Emotions are the feedback from th heart [the mind] that is having a certin experience in the world at a given moment. How that feedback is expressed is dependent on the person's level of consciousness, values and experiences. This is why, Kajangu noted previously, the Africans sought to have a "well-designed" double, because only well-designed doubles (logically, carefully crafted, intelligent, wise minds) can stem the tides of life's challenges. The pursuit of perfection (nfr; love) involves, among other things, the attempt to build a double that will survive beyond death. In the Egyptian Book Of Amenomope, Amenomope says: "The heart/mind of man is a gift of God. Beware of neglecting it" [i.e., its cultivation] . As stated by the great Egyptian sage Ptahhotep: jn rh sm b3.f m smnt nfr.f jm.f tp-t3 "A wise one cares for his b3 by establishing goodness in it on earth". By becoming enlightened on Earth, the double (ena, b3, ori) seals its immortality and becomes an ancestrl spirit (3hw) that can be used by the living for enriching life on earth. In other words, one becomes an Osiris (Wsr, Asar, WaShil, Mujilu). Only foolishness [Egyptian isft "evil"; Isizulu uzibuthe "the spirit of conflict"] can distort the construction of the double

The double is what becomes the ancestor after death. The ancestor after death. the ancestor is a consciousness and the ancestral realm is the "collective consciousness" of all human beings according to African theology.

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The above digram represents the sun's apparent movement around the earth. Sunrise is in the east (V2) and sunset is in the west (V4). The human-being is also a living sun (symbolized by the small circles) and our cycle of life goes in a similar trajectory as the apparent movement of the sun around the earth. The diagram is divided into 2 primary demarcations: the top-half representing life on earth [ku nseke < nza "world, earth"; also nza a mwini "world of sunshine/light" ] and the bottom representing the ancestral realm [ku mpemba < mpemba "white clay/ chalk"); white is the color of the ancestors). The bottom portion of the diagram is also known as ndoki, which is the knower of man's principles and systems of n'kingu ye bimpa higher levels. the kindoki or science of higher knowledge'. The manipulation of these n'kingu and bimpa principles and systems permitted, say the Kongo, to assist the ndoki to become a winged person, a flier. The kikongo dictionary has the meaning for ndoki as "witch, sorcerer" . We can see here this association with "knowledge"[sacred/magical] and "flight" and our Egyptian word b3. I interpret this mean an active and powerful "imagination" as well a deep knowledge of the universe and the ability to bend matter. A witch [ndoki] is simply someone who can imagine something and translate their inspirations into experiences because they know the laws [higher sciences] that will allow for them to do so.

Fu-Kiau expands on this as he notes:

"In the spiritual world the kundu, kindoki, is the central and most important element in this unfathomable world. This element is made up by the experience based on bibulu (b) including [the] human being, the simbi (s), i.e,. ancestral experience, and on mpeve (m) , i.e., soul-mind experience. In this case kundu or kindoki is the lived and accumulated knowledge."

Fu-Kiau is confirming that the ancestral world consists of the collective human and ancestral experiences, which is therefore the mpeve "soul-mind" experience" [the collective b3l unconscious realm). The musoni stage of development [V1] is the formation process stage of all life. This aspect of the cosmogram relates to both the physicl birthing process [the womb] and ideological development [the mind].The "ancestral realm" is in reality the "cosmic collective mind" and it is from this pool of inspiration that we draw from to find solution to the problems we are currently facing. whene discover new solutions, these experiences are then added to the collective pool of wisdom, which is accessible through the mind [i.e., the spirit > b3 > ori). It is considered a dark realm , and as Fu-Kiau notes regarding the concept of the "V" as depicted in the diagram above :

The "Vee" is not only a human experience , it is found everywhere in nature as well as in the universe. It is the most primitive form that emerged from the depth of the first matter, "the dark matter" [ndobe/piu], which is the "printing room" of all realities, not only visible and invisible, but material and immaterial as well. A "printing room" for realities that were and realities to come. It is the printing room inside where all great ideas, images and forms emerge to be impregnated in our minds. Thereafter, we create them as realities.

The "V" is what I call "context", whose left and right edges represent the extremities of a concept [i.e. positive & negative forces]. One can also consider the extremes the edges of a perspective. The more narrow the "V", the narrower the perspective. The wider the "V", the wider the perspective [the more knowledge one has, the more one can see.] The merging point at the base of "V" is what Fu-Kiau calls the " the dark matter" or "printing room," which is none other than the cosmic mind [the mind of God, the law (s) of th Universe]. Remember the hermetic teaching, " The All is Mind; The Universe is Mental ". Our individual mind is but a spark of the greater inferno of the cosmic mind.

The Kikongo word ndobe is a variant of ndombe [, andombe] "blackness". This word has a variant ndombo "papyrus mat" [when used to sleep on] . The ndobe/ndombe is the "blackness" we are surrounded by when we look into the right sky and when we go to "sleep". By going to sleep we go into the ancestral realm nightly. The ancestral realm nightly. The ancestral realm is not "out ther" but "inside" of us: i.e., the heart, the core, the mind > jb , b3, PAA *lab- , ndobe [Kikongo ntima, moyo, mbundu "heart".)

Similar attitudes cn be seen among the Dagara people of Burkina Faso as it regards the underlying consciousness that undergirds the visible world. As told to us by Malidoma Some in his work The healing wisdom of africa : finding Life Purpose Through Nature, Ritual and Community:

"Indigenous people see the physical world as a reflection of a more complex, subtler, and more lasting yet invisible entity called energy. It is as if we are the shadows of a vibrant and endlessly resourceful intelligence dynamically involved in a process of continuous self-creation. Nothing happens here that did not begin in that unseen world. If something in the physical world is experiencing instability.....Therefore, people go to that unseen energetic place to try and repair whatever damage or disturbances are being done there, knowing that if things are healed there, things will be healed here.

The people of the Kongo have a saying as it regards travelling to the land of spirit.

Kani ka bwe, kana ku lumoso-ku lubakala-ku n'twala-ku nima-mu zulu evo mu nsi ukwenda, vutukisa va didi I yand . ""No matter what, you may walk leftwards, rightwards, forwards, backwards, upwards or downwards, you must come back to the [didi] core/center" Kongo Proverb.

According to Bantu tradition, we are "Vertical- Horizontal" beings; we stand "upright", we think, reason and ponder before moving "horizontally" on the earth to meet the challenges of the instinctive world. The horizontal world is the main ground to all learning. Moving horizontally serves one purpose and that is to learn from one's environment. We are not born with knowledge. According to the Bantu, we explore and collect data from our experiences in the world. We shelve this information in our consciousness, like living computers, for future use at will. The muntu [person] has two planes of motion in this universe. On the horizontal plane he can move forwards, backwards, leftwards and rightwards. But for true self-knowing, he walks inwards [didi- inner world]. This is the location of his true self, the essence of his being, his connection to source and ancestors. The Bantu believe that muntu is nothing unless he discovers how to walk towards this 7 direction. The journey towards the didi makes us "thinking-acting-beings," doers, masters [nganga] to ourselves.
 
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Something to consider in regards to the above:


point 1
1) dingo-dingo and 2) di,Kenga are both cognates with the word /mAa.t/ in ciKam [Kemet].
For one, mAa.t is not "maat.." That is Egyptology speak. The term mAa.t consists of 4 consonants:/ m-r-k-t/ or/ m-r-h-t/. The m- is a fossilized prefix and the -t is an active suffix in ancient ciKam. Thus, the historical root is/ r-k/ or /r-h/. The historical consonant structure is actually /k-k/ in which the initial k- has gone through several mutations (given certain vowel environments) giving us the following dialect forms:

k-k
k-ng
t-ng
d-ng
l-ng

The word dingo-dingo takes on the d-ng form. While di.Kenga, without the di- prefix, takes on the k-ng form. . mAa.t was also seen as a spiral in Egyptian. Both the Bakongo and Egyptian philosophies originate from the same parent language and culture. Egyptian thought is preserved among Bantu speakers. The Bantu, however, have very few "deified" forces. They mainly stick to the principles.

point 2:

The word "maat" in Kalenjiin is actually a word for "fire." They have totally separate words for "order, truth, justice, etc." Their word cognate with mAa.t is actually /rach/ "Gather together. Make tidy. Put in order. Arrange properly." They have a word /māā/ or /mat/ meaning "not" and "don't" that applies to the "do's and don'ts" of the culture. In other words, it refers to their taboos or code of conduct. However, the word mAa.t has to do with a "path, road"(< "foot") and in Egyptian the direct root form is given as /mA.t/ "way, path" (Budge 276b) and the Kalenjiin say /maat/ to mean "road, path" and is used in reference to "lineage". Egyptian /h/, /H/, /a/, /A/, /X/ are lost in Kalenjiin. Thus, the missing -A- in /mA.t/ forces the pronunciation of the long /a/ in Kalenjiin /maat/ "road, path" > "lineage, family." From Egyptian /mA.t/ "path, way" we get /mAa.t/ "truth, justice, etc." The -a is a suffix in /mAa.t/.
 
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Experiments in channelling have failed in regards to my original goals..might've overstepped my bounds, breaching spaces I probably should've left alone but I've found my treasure accidently it seems.

The visions are incredible, once accessible by the rhythm of drums. Overwhelmed by a searing and tingling heat and becoming instantly enraged..A very powerful demonic entity has attached itself to me, something that I did not call for but his power is amazing and perfect..I've changed and I perceive that it's noticeable, people don't mess with me anymore..they avoid me now, even the little ones.

But I don't care, the sacrifice of family, of friends is a small thing to forgo in exchange for my new gifts... finally I have the power to restore myself and execute all of my rage without fail. The spirits cloak me as a shield, moving with a heavy darkness..How do you not perceive that hell has opened up and the heavens move against man? Are you all not seers and psychics as proclaimed from your own lips? Death comes from above but you're all ignorant..You're confused by the signs in the heavens, your learning will come from misery and when you're broken up then you will become apart of legion, then you will truly live with purpose.
 
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