Acknowledging DV as an issue isn't a step to a major solution nor is it realistic.
The Normalization of Violence Against Black Women
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Acknowledging DV as an issue isn't a step to a major solution nor is it realistic.
Elle Driver
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How is it not realistic???
I don't mean just black men on black women, that's more gender based violence which like @ODOT META said doesn't take into account LGBT. Acknowledging the problem, rather than addressing it, is it that not feasible on a base level?
Do you know how hard it is to change the behavior of an adult WITHOUT incentives, let alone millions of Black men?
Elle Driver
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But Poitier, come on, I would think the incentive would be it's your womenfolk.
For a person who comes from a 2 parent home then sure but that aint the majority.
Outside of supporting a movement to get a major change. The best we can do is live it. Urge our families to not be lax about it.
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These articles are NOT meant to aid and abet the attack on Black men nor are they meant to cause a divide between the actual Black men and women on this board. Among those that are actually Black, I think we have a good group of people that can discuss things and share things that we can take with us OFFLINE. I do not advocate or support intimate partner violence male to female or female to male. I do not advocate abuse or disrespect in any direction. I think that the ACTUAL Black men and women on this site are reasonable, we must keep this in mind when the trolls come in trying to disrupt the discourse. There is no Black boogie man that's out to destroy Black women and there's no Black boogie woman seeking to destroy Black men. We do not (those of us who are REALLY Black) hate each other. @Roddy Right made a REALLY good point in the thread about the teenage girl- in normal everyday situations OTHER men will NOT step to Black men with the same hostility that they'll use toward Black women. That's a brilliant point that we need to talk about.
What is the solution to this specific issue without any intersectionality? Locking up more Black men?
These are mostly adults who are set in their ways, work shytty jobs where they make shytty wages to support a family so they feel hopeless and anger which they then take out on their women and children. How are you correcting that?
Thats my issue with all this sectarian, gender based social issues stuff. A large part of this is simply a productive of poverty and lack of structure but instead of pushing to address those things, people will keep focusing on symptoms like street harassment, DV, police brutality, homicide rates. Its dumb.
These are mostly adults who are set in their ways, work shytty jobs where they make shytty wages to support a family so they feel hopeless and anger which they then take out on their women and children. How are you correcting that?
Thats my issue with all this sectarian, gender based social issues stuff. A large part of this is simply a productive of poverty and lack of structure but instead of pushing to address those things, people will keep focusing on symptoms like street harassment, DV, police brutality, homicide rates. Its dumb.
Elle Driver
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So where do we start??
Elle Driver
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Correlation doesn't imply causation. And most people already demonize the entirely separate issue that is mass incarceration/prison industrial complex.
You tell me? You and your gender think its an issue that should be addressed specifically.
If correlation does not imply causation in this case then surely you are suggesting that Black men are inherently more violent than their White counterparts?
Mass incarceration is different than DV being that its strictly a product of government policy, not human behavior and development, and thus more easily addressed, but even then, I think a focus on economics alleviates all of these smaller issues.
and the/Fixed...and choose better black men then.There will always be shytty people wherever you go. Black men dont have a monopoly on family violence.
Poverty plays apart,but its cultural.
I wouldn't consider Ray Rice or Chris Brown impoverished. this isnt a simple money problem.
I agree most these problems stem from lack of structure,but how can any problem be addressed if its not discussed?
Ray Rice and Chris Brown where born and grew up rich?
So its a coincidence that every "culture" that is impoverished also has high rates of violence against women and in general?
Maybe focus on the structure itself? You damn sure aren't addressing it by trying to change grown human beings.
