HE PLAYED 76/82 LAST SEASON
AND 62/72 IN 2020...
GOBERT WON PLAYED 56/82
AND WON BEFORE
"The narrative is being pushed for Wemby to get it" - Anthony Davis makes shocking claim about never winning NBA DPOY award
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HE PLAYED 76/82 LAST SEASON
AND 62/72 IN 2020...
GOBERT WON PLAYED 56/82
AND WON BEFORE
Agreed
But when that turns into you hating on someone else who's just playing the game (and blowing you out of the water in blocks) it's a bad look
if that's how he felt he should've been openly shytting on Gobert or Marcus smart for winning over him too, why would you wait until there's a new guy leading in blocks by a wide margin to throw shade, he doesn't even have an argument over Wemby this year
now it just looks like Wemby-specific hate and that's corny, Gobert shoulda been on the summer jam screen if AD was really bout it those previous years, it's too late now to stop thefrom taking over
HOW DOESNT HE HAVE
AN ARGUMENT OVER WEMBY
WHEN THE SPURS ARE 21ST IN DEFENSE?
THIS IS THE DBL STANDARD
HE WAS POINTING OUT
AND THE REASON HE MENTIONED WEMBY...
HE DIDNT MENTION THE
EARLIER GUYS BECAUSE THE
VOTERS WERE USING A DIFFERENT METRIC.
AD IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHY THE GOALPOST HAS BEEN
MOVED HIS WHOLE CAREER
Lakers have only been top 10 in defensive rating once during ADs tenure 
Individually, he's an amazing defender no doubt but it seems the people who win these awards are on higher seeded playoff teams and ones with top 5/10 team defense rating. I know it is an individual award, but the Lakers have not been dominant defensively the last few years where it's even really a question
Individually, he's an amazing defender no doubt but it seems the people who win these awards are on higher seeded playoff teams and ones with top 5/10 team defense rating. I know it is an individual award, but the Lakers have not been dominant defensively the last few years where it's even really a question
Its not even close. Since Kawhi fell off. I love Giannis but i dont his defense is that great like that
Illin Degenerate
All Star
yes the spurs are only 18th in defensive rating at 114.6, their defensive rating when wemby is on the floor 112.5, off the floor 118.9. the lakers are 20th at 114.9, when ad is on the floor defensive rating is 114.4, off the floor 116.2.
as for why giannis won the dpoy in 19-20, they had the no.1 defense rating as a team at 102.9 and with giannis on the floor 99.6, off the floor 107.5.
17-18 is the year i'd probably make the case for ad winning dpoy. he had the stats and the best on/off impact. what i think worked against him was the pelicans only having the 14th ranked defensive rating. games played were heavily in his favor. he played 75, gobert 56, embiid 63.
i dont agree that its narrative driven but there does seem to be a push to give last years runner up a leg up if the voters feel hes worthy the next year. draymond 2nd in 15-16, dpoy 16-17. gobert 2nd 16-17, dpoy 17-18. giannis 2nd 18-19, dpoy 19-20. last year wemby 2nd. i also dont think with wemby its as much narrative as it is his status and his physical stature that enhances his case consciously or otherwise.
as for why giannis won the dpoy in 19-20, they had the no.1 defense rating as a team at 102.9 and with giannis on the floor 99.6, off the floor 107.5.
17-18 is the year i'd probably make the case for ad winning dpoy. he had the stats and the best on/off impact. what i think worked against him was the pelicans only having the 14th ranked defensive rating. games played were heavily in his favor. he played 75, gobert 56, embiid 63.
i dont agree that its narrative driven but there does seem to be a push to give last years runner up a leg up if the voters feel hes worthy the next year. draymond 2nd in 15-16, dpoy 16-17. gobert 2nd 16-17, dpoy 17-18. giannis 2nd 18-19, dpoy 19-20. last year wemby 2nd. i also dont think with wemby its as much narrative as it is his status and his physical stature that enhances his case consciously or otherwise.
He never said he was undeserving. He said the criteria for why you win the award keeps getting the goalpost treatment. It was about blocks, but when he led the league in blocks it became a metrics award. He’s arguably the most versatile defensive big in the game and it’s a blocks award again. It’s a legit point.
SO HOW DOESANY OF THIS DESCRIBE WEMBY?
YOURE MAKING ADS POINT...
A VERY CLEAR POINT
THAT SO MANY ARE MISSING.
THE GOAL POSTS HAVE BEEN
MOVED ON HIM HIS WHOLE CAREER.
Maybe.
I just think mentioning Wemby like that makes it seem like he's resigned himself to it no matter what he does.
So that if Wemby does win it, even deservedly so, Davis can come out on some "See, I told y'all" steez.
The optics are terrible.
ANY OF THIS DESCRIBE WEMBY?
YOURE MAKING ADS POINT...
A VERY CLEAR POINT
THAT SO MANY ARE MISSING.
THE GOAL POSTS HAVE BEEN
MOVED ON HIM HIS WHOLE CAREER.
Goal posts move for generational players. Not ones who complain
cyndaquil
Lv 100 Bold natured
They let Rudy Gobert win it when he essentially only plays 1 side of the ball for real. AD is a real 2 way player. shyt is disgraceful. He should have like 2-3 of them by now. Even Marcus Smart has one smh
AD HAS BEEN THE BEST
DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NBA
FOR A LONG TIME.
KINDA LIKE DUNCAN
NEVER WON DPOY DESPITE
BEING CONSISTENTLY GREAT
FOR SO LONG
NOPE WEMBY FINISHED 2ND LAST YR
AND SPURS DEFENSE WAS TRASH
AS WELL AS THEIR RECORD.
HES THE FRONT RUNNER THIS YEAR
AND THEIR DEFENSE AINT shyt.
HES JUST SPEAKING FACTS.
Well, see...the thing is...
NOPE WEMBY FINISHED 2ND LAST YR
AND SPURS DEFENSE WAS TRASH
AS WELL AS THEIR RECORD.
HES THE FRONT RUNNER THIS YEAR
AND THEIR DEFENSE AINT shyt.
HES JUST SPEAKING FACTS.
If you're going to use the Spurs overall defensive metrics against Wemby, you're going to come to that errant conclusion.
There's a difference between the Spurs defense, and the Spurs defense when Wemby is on the floor.
And that's what some voters and many analysts take into account if they're giving their opinion on defensive value.
I mean, he isn't wrong.
Spurs are below .500 with a bottom defense and are still years away from being a contender or even playoff mainstay.
Spurs are below .500 with a bottom defense and are still years away from being a contender or even playoff mainstay.
Even if that were the case, why should AD get discredited for matching up against dudes who are a couple of inches taller and outweigh him by about 30-50lbs?