The Myth Of the Dark Ages (to hide the Moors' massive contribution to Science and Art)

[Swagnificent]

Cant believe people here are seriously trying to erase Berbers from history,jesus Christ.

Da hell??? Who said anything about trying to erase the Berbers? The Berbers are descendants of the Moors.

Contrary to the lies spread by white supremacists, most Berbers are still as black as their Moorish ancestors. Just like this Berber family.

And the Berbers farther north that are not black are just mulattoes. Moorish men were famous for taking white European females as concubines and having children with them.

Many of the lighter skin Berbers in North Africa today are just the mulatto offspring of black Moorish fathers and white European mothers.

 

[3rdWorld]

true but there's no sense in being mad because these scientists themselves did not care about credit and all their pursuits in science were not for recognition but simply for the sake of Allah (since they were muslims, and believe doing something for another man's recognition is only Allah is worthy of that)

I was mad as hell too at this shyt. But I came across quotes that left me thinking

and made me realize that they would be happy that their work was passed on and even happier that their credit wasn't. These people truly did everything all for the sake of Allah

Big mistake as Islam itself treats Africans like subhumans only worthy of serving arabs..
All that work for other people like slaves..

 

[Saiyajin]

Crakkkas know about it. They just want to keep our people in the dark.

If you don't know your history or have a sense of self, you don't value yourself. And thats what cac want. They want us to not value ourselves by selling us on their fiction that all we've ever been is slaves or starving Africans.

Don't get it twisted. White people know the true history. They just want us to not know and keep us brainwashed with white supremacy.

and race is something very new which many researchers believe emerged only because of the collapse of Moorish and African empires. Before that no one made distinctions on race, no one considered themselves white or black. Its a brand new phenomenon and happened because it was impossible to claim you're race is superior when right on your doorstep is an empire that was not only superior in power but didn't even bother to acknowledge you.

Only after the Spanish Inquistion, which expelled the Moors and basically wiped out all traces of them could they even consider any racial superiority.

There are so many historical artifacts that show that how much the Moors were resented by the Europeans, and how appalled they were seeing so many people willingly abandon the Christian empire which was considered Holy, to join an Islamic Caliphate.

I mean they were literally trying for 700 years atleast to try and topple the Moors. Its hard to comprehend just how long that is. We get way too caught up in the present.

We were on top for far longer than cacs ever been.

 

[Xcoyote]

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What a load of horseshyt.

 

[Saiyajin]

Da hell??? Who said anything about trying to erase the Berbers? The Berbers are descendants of the Moors.

Contrary to the lies spread by white supremacists, most Berbers are still as black as their Moorish ancestors. Just like this Berber family.

And the Berbers farther north that are not black are just mulattoes. Moorish men were famous for taking white European females as concubines and having children with them.

Many of the lighter skin Berbers in North Africa today are just the mulatto offspring of black Moorish fathers and white European mothers.

Exactly. Berber was originally a term for the people who speak the Berber language not a race of people, historians call them Berbers to maintain accuracy because the people who conquered Spain were know as Berbers because the concept of a Black person didn't exist back then and Africa was way too diverse to call them Africans. Now people have started saying that Berbers are a race of people, and its obvious why. Saying Berbers were their own race and the Moors werent black is like saying American is a race then using pics of Latino or Black Americans to say that the USA isnt full of cacs pathetic but only possible because most people are unaware

Just a way to dilute the truth to maintain their lies. Hard to be a white supremacist when the truth says the opposite. Nobody argues that the Greeks or Romans were cacs, even though there's far less evidence compared to the Moors who even Historians agree were black.

I mean They consider Mansa Musa a berber.

I hope one day a black director makes a 12 years a slave style movie about when these Cacs were slaves to the Moors. See how they feel about that

 

[Saiyajin]

Big mistake as Islam itself treats Africans like subhumans only worthy of serving arabs..
All that work for other people like slaves..

bruh show some respect you think people of such genius would follow a religion that said that? There are books about Islam written by these men you think you know more than them about it?

Don't feed into the propaganda of Islamophobia. Arab nationalism didn't even begin until the 1900s and was created to destroyed the Ottoman Empire from within so the British could take over. Look at the history of Saudi Arabia if you think Im lying. Race never played a part in Islam if it did how could a Moorish caliphate be considered legitimate? You think if Islam was a religion for Arab supremacy that they'd ever let Black men be the leaders?

 

[Dzali OG]

No.

Moor meant black. Even non-muslim black people were called Moors.

That's what I was attempting to get him to admit. Which he danced around.

 

[3rdWorld]

bruh show some respect you think people of such genius would follow a religion that said that? There are books about Islam written by these men you think you know more than them about it?

Don't feed into the propaganda of Islamophobia. Arab nationalism didn't even begin until the 1900s and was created to destroyed the Ottoman Empire from within so the British could take over. Look at the history of Saudi Arabia if you think Im lying. Race never played a part in Islam if it did how could a Moorish caliphate be considered legitimate? You think if Islam was a religion for Arab supremacy that they'd ever let Black men be the leaders?

Did these glorious Africans write books on how the Arabs invaded their North African lands and committed ethnic cleansing?
Perhaps you seek a more recent example of Arabs and their treatment of Africans cause I can provide you with countless accounts by Sudanese and darfurians at the hands of Arab muslims..

 

[blackzeus]

@KidStranglehold do you have anything to add to this? I know you have a thorough understanding and I think it's important that people are aware so atleast the remaining history is not lost. Also important because of the lies that white supremacist peddle based on taking advantage of the ignorance of history. The biggest lie of the white supremacist is that they are ONLY MORALLY wrong. When in fact they are FACTUALLY wrong first and foremost.

I mean damn im still shocked that they glorify knighthood to this day on shows like Game of Thrones, but it was all originally the imitation of the Moors.

One of the most misleading things in my opinion is the Europeans of the time referring to the Moors as Arabs because they spoke Arabic. We now know that the Moors were the Arabs if referenced regarding Al-Andalus and they spoke Arabic because they were deeply religious and their study of Religion (Islam) and Science were inherently linked. If the Europeans wanted to refer to what we now call the Arab race, they used the term Saracen instead which was the racial term

"blackamoor" is all i'm gonna say to this whole Arab hogwash

 

[Swagnificent]

What a load of horseshyt.

Yall see the mind of a cac. When hit with the truth, they just say its bs and post nothing to counter the argument because they have no facts.

Look at the DNA stupid. Berbers are GENETICALLY identical to East Africans on the Y-chromosome (DNA from the father) but not mtDNA (which is from the mother). The maternal ancestry of many Berbers is European.

The DNA basically confirms what I said and what we already know from history. The light skin Berbers are just a mulatto race. The off-spring of black Moorish fathers and their white female slaves.

 

[Swagnificent]

Did these glorious Africans write books on how the Arabs invaded their North African lands and committed ethnic cleansing?
Perhaps you seek a more recent example of Arabs and their treatment of Africans cause I can provide you with countless accounts by Sudanese and darfurians at the hands of Arab muslims..

God you're an idiot. Both groups in Sudan are BLACK. The guys being called Arabs are black. The non-Arabs are also black.

Its a ethnic tribal conflict. Not a racial one.

The idea Arabs are non-black is actually a new idea.

 

[Saiyajin]

Yall see the mind of a cac. When hit with the truth, they just say its bs and post nothing to counter the argument because they have no facts.

Look at the DNA stupid. Berbers are GENETICALLY identical to East Africans on the Y-chromosome (DNA from the father) but not mtDNA (which is from the mother). The maternal ancestry of many Berbers is European.

The DNA basically confirms what I said and what we already know from history. The light skin Berbers are just a mulatto race. The off-spring of black Moorish fathers and their white female slaves.

God you're an idiot. Both groups in Sudan are BLACK. The guys being called Arabs are black. The non-Arabs are also black.

Its a ethnic tribal conflict. Not a racial one.

The idea Arabs are non-black is actually a new idea.

no need to argue further man, its like arguing with a man that insists that the Sun revolves around the Earth

no matter how much proof you show him it'll never be enough unless you flew him out to space and showed him, but no one would ever do that because its not worth the effort at all

the same with these cacs that think history agrees that white people are superior, you show them proof after proof of undeniable evidence that no European civilization has yet to surpass the level of dominance that the Moors and the evidence will never be enough.

you have to build a time machine take them back to that time period and have a Moor bytchslap them with the back of their hand for them to understand.

770 years they dont comprehend how long that is. The Roman empire only lasted 507 years. The Byzantine empire last 1123 but was only a superpower for 400 years, after that it lost almost all of its territory and all that was left of the Empire was the city of Constantinople

 

[#1 pick]

Ibn Hazm is most well known for being the father of comparative religions and hes a philosopher but he was a polymath which means he was a master of multiple areas of study, he also studied astronomy and physics. He wrote 400 books but only 40 survived

This thread is GOAT

 

[#1 pick]

Moor comes from Moorish which means black. WHY people always tryna discredit African people smh. Its. A whole bunch of pictures of moors and even paintings of Columbus with a moor next to him. They black as hell. its 2016 you can't deny facts anymore. The origin of the English term, "Moor," is the Greek word, "μαυρο" or "mavro" which literally means "black, blackened or charred" and has long been used to describe black or very dark things such as, "Mavri Thalassa" which refers to the Black Sea or "mavri spilia" which means "black cave." They literally are calling themselves black and people are still arguing lol. Pathetic

Because we are in a system of white supremacy. It's not in the best interest of the oppressor to tell you, that you are an elephant and not a mice.

 

[Saiyajin]

This thread is GOAT

thank you

i put so much effort double checking to make sure everything I posted was 100% true from trustworthy sources

770 years of dominance the Roman empire only lasted 507

The Byzantine empire lasted 400 years before it was reduced to only a city, Constantinople

Really puts into perspective that one of the most dominant empires in human history isn't well known by anyone except Historians who were in awe of it

Its crucial that people know about this. We're just unlucky because we were born after the Moors decline.

Al-Andalus was LITERALLY Wakanda.

How great it would've been to live there in its prime, the center of all knowledge for 770 years, so much luxury and peace