The "Multiverse" is Bad Storytelling

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No Way Home worked because we needed Tom Holland's Peter Parker to do it on his own because Spidey for the most of this career, has been alone. He was a broke boy with a girlfriend who made excuse after excuse to always disappearing because his side job is putting on spandex and fighting crime. He lost his auntie, lost his MJ and best friend. He'll eventually move onto Gwen Stacy and most likely meet a kid with a white dad with waves. When are we getting a Spidey 4? The f*ck if I know because there's a writer's strike ongoing and we have to wait and see if Kraven is successful, in hopes that he'll be first up to go against the new and alone Spider-man. That's if they decide to give us Venom, fresh off of Let There Be Carnage or maybe Morbius, because he had a film too.

The Multiverse just isn't suitable for movie storytelling. There are no stakes, everything ends up muddled, and there's a clear disconnect with the translation of the comic book version of the multiverse to film. They haven't been able to make these singular events feel like one because I don't believe they even try to. They make a bucket at the end of the quarter and are already running back on defense. What's wrong with movies that open and close within the two hours? People like closure and people will rewatch and revisit those stories because decisions made mattered. I enjoyed NWH but haven't even bothered to watch it in whole since seeing it in theatres.

We can kinda be honest: no one really was banging the drum for a Flash movie. I've seen one too many seasons of The Flash TV series and know there's limitations to the character, it's rogue gallery and with the actor casting themselves. They kept throwing more ketchup (Keaton is back as Batman) and BBQ sauce (Supergirl backdoor movie?) to get people to care and no one showed up. Flash was always an end to a means. Since James Gunn got hired on, we knew this and Aquaman would the last of the DCEU that Zack Snyder started. We know we're getting a new Superman (potentially two), we know Momoa is rumoured to move onto potential a new character and we're mostly likely getting new actors as Justice League members.

Brehs, we're getting the same movie for the fourth time in the past two years. A character going back in time to fix a mistake that has everlasting consequences. This is just ongoing tale that has no end. These movies already take a long time to come out because they decided to keep pushing out that timeline schedule at every Comic-con so they shackled themselves to this. SONY has to keep making Spider-man related movies just to hold onto the rights. That's why we're getting a Kraven movie where he has Beastmaster powers. That's why we got a Morbius movie. That's why Eddie Brock showed up at the end of No Way Home. And that's why there's a Madam Web movie coming with Dakota Johnson and Sydney Sweeney. SONY is basically desperate to hold onto what makes them money the most.

Last thing, one thing we're kinda overlooking, we're running out of talent to play these characters. All of these actors are trapped in playing the characters. We've already seen that some actors didn't even know they were in a Spider-man movie. We've also seen actors who are given the ball to be the next big characters for future arcs get in trouble for their off screen antics. I don't think anyone who wants to make a name would bond themselves to these movies and their contracts just for an action figure. Leo's advice to
Timothée Chalamet was "no drugs and no superhero movies", wouldn't surprise me if more took this advice without making it vocal.
 

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The multiverse isn't a bad thing, it's just that we ended up with with franchises like Spiderman and The Flash (edit: i know flash movie by itself isn't technically a "franchise") trying to cash in on some goofy fan service movies where they relied on cameos.

Dr Strange 2 to was great Multiverse movie. Despite what some people here say. (and the box office numbers prove it) And i'm willing to bet alot of people saying they don't like multiverse movies will oddly enough be some of the people that championed "Everything Everywhere All At Once."
 

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It's lazy, it's always been lazy, and relying on that mechanic has painted comic stories (much less movie ones) into a corner for about 30 years. All just to allow writers/editors their god complexes.
 

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Or is bad storytelling just bad storytelling?


Not to mention time travel and multiverses are seperate things. Time travel is definitely a cheat and takes away stakes. But it was well done in end game. Decently done in Days Of Future Past.


What are the other movies that used time travel? I know Justice League bought Superman back,but that wasnt time travel. Which just proves writers can find many ways to remove the stakes. So the multiverse itself isnt the problem.



It was done well in Endgame because they made the stakes so high. The audience was practically begging for a miracle aka time travel/multiverse at that point:mjcry:


What we are seeing now is comic movies doing it just because they can.
 

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I took 2 of my boys to see spidyverse the other day and ngl that shyt was too much to keep up with I don't think the main MCu multiverse is overdoing it but Sony is getting outta control with spiderman but I get it it's an easy way to retcon the universe and come out with new movies and be creative
 

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Because politics (for the lack of a better word) has dominated these movie discussions, ppl take sides and don't talk with sense.

Some of the worst stories I've ever read/watched for on some multi-verse/time travel shyt.

Endgame ended the Infinity saga in a dud with that dumbass time travel, multiverse resolution.

THIS is the worst comic book story I've ever read;

An Inhuman predicts the future right, once, Capt Marvel basically takes his side and acts on every vision he has

After a fukk up or two, Iron Man tells her to be careful

fukkery ensues; She-Hulk in a coma, Rhodey is dead, They kill Bruce Banner, I think Wolverine dies or kills another Avenger

Basically horrible shyt happens because she wants to prevent the "visions" from coming true, but, Iron Man thinsk that's stupid

The story ends with him saying "oops, I can't tell the future, I'm actually seeing different multiverses in my visions....you were fukking up on your own because you thought my visions were on the 616." :laff:

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I do agree that the stakes are significantly lower in these multiverse movies. I don’t think it’s bad storytelling but it is kind of lazy
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