The Most Overrated Games In The History Vol.1: The Last Of Us

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Story is easily the most overrated aspect of it. We're supposed to get the feeling of humanity fighting for its life in the wake of an apocalypse but theyre are so many people around it destroys any sense of apocalypse. If Joel's killing so many people with so little hesitation where's the tension? Is humanity really any more valuable after the apocalypse hits? The part in Pittsburgh kills me, theres a half hour long sequence where literally an entire army of bandits are trying to gun you down while youre killing them just as quickly. How are there that many people still around? So at the end when the big reveal is either save ellie and condemn humanity or let her die for a cure everything just falls flat on its face. They dont need to kill ellie because for twenty fukking years humanity is still alive and kicking. If anything human life is even less precious than it was before shyt hit the fan. Theres no sense of stakes at all. The entire narrative is one big plothole

But everyone's already made their mind up on their favorite game :yeshrug:

Meach said something similar but I didn't think this was what they were going for at all. I don't think you appreciate what kind of impact this sort of apocalyptic event would have on the psyche of people. Resources are limited, code of law has almost diminished, and so would the morality of a lot of people struggling for everyday essentials. You mention the amount of people, well, for the most part I think the game does a good job portraying a sense of emptiness in the world, outside of major hubs. Also keep in mind that ... when we classify a species to be endangered, it's because a large percentage of its population is lost due to disease or predators or man-made destruction of its habitat. So in the game world there could still be tens of thousands of people living in the US or maybe more, but since that's such a drastic decrease in a short span of time (20 years is not a long time :hmm:) the human race might be at risk of going extinct.

I don't think it doesn't follow for any story or game, whether it's a Mad Max or Fallout or TLOU, to have gangs of bandits colluding to maximize resources by any means possible. In fact, I think it's very likely that might happen. So while Ellie's life specifically might mean a lot to Joel (towards the end of the game), their lives might not matter to a random person in city X, who only cares about running thru the 6 with his woes. Not to mention, the other characters have people they love and care about, children and the like, and would probably like not to have to worry about them being eaten by a clicker tomorrow, or turning into one themselves. Sure there are bandits who are kill for little gain, but there are still decent people who would prefer one less thing to worry about.

The larger point is the story isn't about saving humanity, it's Joel's moral struggle. In a sense, the protagonist gives up on humanity after the death of his daughter, and initially has this "my survival is all that matters" attitude. But as the story progresses, he sees Ellie as his daughter, grows attached to her and feels the need to protect her. In the beginning he didn't even want the responsibility, and was ultimately only helping Ellie for selfish reasons. 'Saving' humanity is sort of a secondary motivation, but you find out as the story progresses that the Fireflies have found people with immunities before, and their experiments on El aren't guaranteed to produce any results. The ones in the past already failed....which, at least partially, explains his reaction at the end. He decided at that hospital that making sure she survived with him was more important than any hope of curing the infection. I guess you could argue that ultimately it was still selfish, but that was the end game for Joel. Whether or not she would have been the one that finally produced a cure is something we'll never know.... that's what was at stake at the climax.
 

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Halo is still one of the best.

More recently there was alien isolation.

Crysis was good, Max Payne 3. GTA V, shadow of morridor.

There's plenty.

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We can play this game all day breh. No game's AI is perfect all the time.

fallout 4 AI is much better

U tell your companion to sit the fukk over there and they chill till u tell them

That's fair. Until you walk through an opening, trigger a landmine, and can't back up cuz your companion is inches behind you.
 

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You can tell who played the game on easy/normal. :mjlol:

Anybody saying the games on rails or is the same as watching it on youtube either played on easy or never playednthe game at all.

Grounded mode was literally one of the most tense/fun gameplay experiences Ive ever had.

I :mjlol: @ onrails.
Play games on easy or watch them on youtube then complain its on rails brehs.


Expose yourselves pretty easily.
 

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So one of the biggest AAA companies in the country isnt going to make good AI because its"complicated" :skip:

If she stuck to the player the sight radius would be extended only slightly to include her. It would be the same as if Joel was the size of two people instead of one. That doesnt sound very difficult
The AI is good. You're just nitpicking the fukk out of it. Your sight radius idea is good, but her sticking right next to you and mirroring everything you do would be even more distracting and immersion breaking.
 

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But it's a suspenseful, survival horror game. Having her react and attack random enemies on her behalf without your input kind of defeats that purpose. I mean if you are trying to sneak past an area with a bloated, 10 clickers, with only a stick that you want to save, having her randomly shank them wouldn't be ideal. Unless of course you have a gang of ammo and weapons but they would run that narrative of the game and turn it into Resident Evil. And the enemies only ignore her when you aren't causing a commotion. Not when you are fighting. And of course that hide in a closet suggestion is not only lame like I said earlier, it gets complicated when you have two other people. So all of them wait too?
I didn't say anything about randomly shanking anybody. I said she should realize that an enemy is coming and get behind cover.
 

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So nobody is going to comment on @Fatboi1 once again pulling meechs card and showing meech hasnt even played the game?

Wheres the receipts.

Watch a game on youtube then complain the experience isnthe same as watching it on youtube brehs.
I'm looking and I don't see the reciepts breh.

I mean how he got GTA V trophies but not TLOU?? I'm supposed to believe he didn't play that game on his OWN PS3??
The "I didn't sync my trophies" bullshyt ain't gonna slide here. I don't even see Uncharted 2 trophies on there. I refuse to believe this nikka played UC1, SKIPPED 2 and then played 3.

Nah i'm not buying it.
 
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The AI is good. You're just nitpicking the fukk out of it. Your sight radius idea is good, but it would be dumb to have her stick to you that close. Her sticking right next to you and mirroring everything you do would be even more distracting and immersion breaking.

More immersion breaking than walking into the line of sight of enemies while we're trying to hide? Nah

And that shyt happened to more than you want to let on :yeshrug: like i said, everyone already has their mind made up on their favorite game. I went in thinking it was going to be the greatest thing ever and it wasnt. If you enjoyed it, cool. Im not gonna ignore everything i found wrong with it because I wasnt invested in it emotionally at all. Its not nitpicking when it happened every stealth section.
 

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I'm looking and I don't see the reciepts breh.

I mean how he got GTA V trophies but not TLOU?? I'm supposed to believe he didn't play that game on his OWN PS3??
The "I didn't sync my trophies" bullshyt ain't gonna slide here. I don't even see Uncharted 2 trophies on there. I refuse to believe this nikka played UC1, SKIPPED 2 and then played 3.

Nah i'm not buying it.
I bought the UC2 bundle. That was the first game I played.

PSN is trash I never tried or gave a fukk about trophies, after a while I stopped even connecting to PSN, too much of a hassle, I have no idea why some trophies show up and some don't :manny:
 

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I bought the UC2 bundle. That was the first game I played.

PSN is trash I never tried or gave a fukk about trophies, after a while I stopped even connecting to PSN, too much of a hassle, I have no idea why some trophies show up and some don't :manny:
I have an idea, it's because you're fukking lying. There's no way it didn't sync some games and only others. It syncs everything, that's the whole damn point.

Just stop lying and admit you watched a playthrough of these games and gtfoh this thread.
 

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I'm looking and I don't see the reciepts breh.

I mean how he got GTA V trophies but not TLOU?? I'm supposed to believe he didn't play that game on his OWN PS3??
The "I didn't sync my trophies" bullshyt ain't gonna slide here. I don't even see Uncharted 2 trophies on there. I refuse to believe this nikka played UC1, SKIPPED 2 and then played 3.

Nah i'm not buying it.
Ans we all know meech has admittes in the past to watching games on youtube while talking non stop about them acting like he has :sas2:


Its a new day in the arcadium. Anybody talking and giving deep criticism of games needs to provide receipts they played it.:sas1:

Unless they just skimmin neogaf and finding any complaints they can taking their talking points from there,which we know certain posters do :sas1:
 

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Ans we all know meech has admittes in the past to watching games on youtube while talking non stop about them acting like he has :sas2:


Its a new day in the arcadium. Anybody talking and giving deep criticism of games needs to provide receipts they played it.:sas1:

Unless they just skimmin neogaf and finding any complaints they can taking their talking points from there,which we know certain posters do :sas1:
You should NEVER make a post about Xbox again :comeon:
 

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So one of the biggest AAA companies in the country isnt going to make good AI because its"complicated" :skip:

If she stuck to the player the sight radius would be extended only slightly to include her. It would be the same as if Joel was the size of two people instead of one. That doesnt sound very difficult
Whats your psn?
 
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