The most important assassination of the 20th century - Patrice Lumumba

[WOLF2007]

It doesn't make sense to ignore all the good things and only focus on the bad (without having all the details). That's what our enemies do. NTM, We are African American not Liberian or from Leone.. So we look at that shyt on a higher level.. not glorifying, not narrowing our perspective either.

Basically, its who put the money up for telecommunications and technology in Africa... who pushed back against Western Imperialism. Those people get the honorable mention.

We only hate on those directly against us...
and only pick apart African American leaders because obviously your own can hurt u the most.

My folks are from Sierra leone.. I have fam who died in that war. so I am not talking from heresay.

 

[Blackking]

My folks are from Sierra leone.. I have fam who died in that war. so I am not talking from heresay.

i believe you.

but sierra leone people made him a honorary member of parliament there.. made other shyt in his honor. He supplied them with supplies, funds, resources... Some people there like him, some don't. This is after the war.

but he did play a role in the terror there so I get y you feel that way.

AT the same time... like I said. . My people are African American - and that's who I care about first.

 

[WOLF2007]

i believe you.

but sierra leone people made him a honorary member of parliament there.. made other shyt in his honor. He supplied them with supplies, funds, resources... Some people there like him, some don't. This is after the war.

but he did play a role in the terror there so I get y you feel that way.

AT the same time... like I said. . My people are African American - and that's who I care about first.

And the fakkits in govt gave him that honorary title because all they saw was money. Thats the problem with us Africans we will sacrifice eachother for chump change

 

[Primetime21]

subtitled

Came across this thread earlier in the week and have been watching bits and pieces of this every night since, on the last 30 mins now. I'll check the rest of this thread out after

 

[Kritic]

http://www.hangthebankers.com/bono-exposed-as-a-complete-fraud/

Bono exposed as a complete fraud

The alliance is pushing African countries into agreements that allow foreign companies to grab their land, patent their seeds and monopolise their food markets. Ignoring the voices of their own people, six African governments have struck deals with companies such as Monsanto, Cargill, Dupont, Syngenta, Nestlé and Unilever, in return for promises of aid by the UK and other G8 nations.

Bono has been … amplifying elite discourses, advocating ineffective solutions, patronising the poor and kissing the arses of the rich and powerful”. His approach to Africa is “a slick mix of traditional missionary and commercial colonialism, in which the poor world exists as a task for the rich world to complete”.

Bono is seen by world leaders as the representative of the poor, the poor are not invited to speak. This works very well for everyone – except them.

this munkie just lookin on like it's nothin..

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

lol, I can't take Bono seriously after that South Park episode...

 

[theworldismine13]

http://www.hangthebankers.com/bono-exposed-as-a-complete-fraud/

Bono exposed as a complete fraud







this munkie just lookin on like it's nothin..

Questions for Dambisa Moyo
The Anti-Bono
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/22/magazine/22wwln-q4-t.html?_r=0

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Questions for Dambisa Moyo
The Anti-Bono
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/22/magazine/22wwln-q4-t.html?_r=0

Q: As a native of Zambia with advanced degrees in public policy and economics from Harvard and Oxford, you are about to publish an attack on Western aid to Africa and its recent glamorization by celebrities. ‘‘Dead Aid,’’ as your book is called, is particularly hard on rock stars. Have you met Bono?
I have, yes, at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, last year. It was at a party to raise money for Africans, and there were no Africans in the room, except for me.

What do you think of him?
I’ll make a general comment about this whole dependence on “celebrities.” I object to this situation as it is right now where they have inadvertently or manipulatively become the spokespeople for the African continent.

You argue in your book that Western aid to Africa has not only perpetuated poverty but also worsened it, and you are perhaps the first African to request in book form that all development aid be halted within five years.
Think about it this way — China has 1.3 billion people, only 300 million of whom live like us, if you will, with Western living standards. There are a billion Chinese who are living in substandard conditions. Do you know anybody who feels sorry for China? Nobody.

Maybe that’s because they have so much money that we here in the U.S. are begging the Chinese for loans.
Forty years ago, China was poorer than many African countries. Yes, they have money today, but where did that money come from? They built that, they worked very hard to create a situation where they are not dependent on aid.

[What do you think has held back Africans?
I believe it’s largely aid. You get the corruption — historically, leaders have stolen the money without penalty — and you get the dependency, which kills entrepreneurship. You also disenfranchise African citizens, because the government is beholden to foreign donors and not accountable to its people.

If people want to help out, what do you think they should do with their money if not make donations?
Microfinance. Give people jobs.

But what if you just want to donate, say, $25?
Go to the Internet and type in Kiva.org, where you can make a loan to an African entrepreneur.

Do you have a financial interest in Kiva?
No, except that I’ve made loans through the system. I don’t own a share of Kiva.

You just left your longtime job as a banker forGoldman Sachs in London, where you live. What did you do there, exactly?
I worked in the capital markets, helping mostly emerging countries to issue bonds. That’s why I know that that works.

Which countries sought your help?
Israel, Turkey and South Africa, primarily.

Why didn’t you get a bond issue going in your native Zambia or other African countries?
Many politicians seem to have a lazy muscle. Issuing a bond would require that the president and the cabinet ministers go out and market their country. Why would they do that when they can just call up the World Bank and say, “Can I please have some money?”

I keep reading about a new crop of African presidents who are supposedly free-market guys, including Rupiah Banda, the president of Zambia.
There are lots who are nominally free market, but they haven’t been aggressive about implementing those policies.

What do your parents do?
My mother is chairman of a bank called the Indo-Zambia Bank. It’s a joint venture between Zambia and India. My father runs Integrity Foundation, an anticorruption organization.

For all your belief in the potential of capitalism, the free market is now in free fall and everyone is questioning the supposed wonders of the unregulated market.
I wish we questioned the aid model as much as we are questioning the capitalism model. Sometimes the most generous thing you can do is just say no.

 

[Self_Born7]

We're talking about Mugabe here and the countless of other revolutionaries who became drunk with power after "liberating" their people. Africa is full of them, from Idi Amin to Mugabe and Bokassa, Bongo, Sassou-Nguesso, Museveni, Al-Bashir, Zenawi, Nguema, Ahidjo, Biya, Compaore (what a disappointment!), Mengistu Haile Maryam, etc etc etc
Nothing tells us that Lumumba would've bucked that trend.

and sadly, Nelson Mandela as well. that whole fiasco with the DeBeers Corporation had me feeling some type of way.

 

[Kritic]

and sadly, Nelson Mandela as well. that whole fiasco with the DeBeers Corporation had me feeling some type of way.

wat fiasco...

the one thing i don't get with debeers is why the south african govt just didn't take it over. the rothschild own that sh1t enslaving africans. why not just pull an idi on them white niccas. fuqq em.
esp with south african economy shot..

 

[theworldismine13]

wat fiasco...

the one thing i don't get with debeers is why the south african govt just didn't take it over. the rothschild own that sh1t enslaving africans. why not just pull an idi on them white niccas. fuqq em.
esp with south african economy shot..

the south african government is corrupt as fuk, the only thing that would do is put money into the hands of the bureaucrats in government, if you want to see what happens when the government takes control of resources look at Venezuela

there is no real money in resources, the only real resource that a country has is educated and developed human minds

 

[Kritic]

the south african government is corrupt as fuk, the only thing that would do is put money into the hands of the bureaucrats in government, if you want to see what happens when the government takes control of resources look at Venezuela

there is no real money in resources, the only real resource that a country has is educated and developed human minds

rather the money goes to south african ppl than foreign apartheid jewish crackas.
them niccas will figure it out.

 

[theworldismine13]

rather the money goes to south african ppl than foreign apartheid jewish crackas.
them niccas will figure it out.

id rather the corporations be taxed properly under a system of economic freedom cuz the notion that south africans are going to get rich from diamomds and gold is bogus

 

[superunknown23]

id rather the corporations be taxed properly under a system of economic freedom cuz the notion that south africans are going to get rich from diamomds and gold is bogus

The richest people in Africa are typically leaders and government ministers, rarely businessmen. That's how deep the corruption goes.
Nobody knows the salaries of African leaders (people would laugh at your face if you ask what a president makes)
The saddest thing is when a young African graduates from college, he looks for government positions first because that's where the money is.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

the south african government is corrupt as fuk, the only thing that would do is put money into the hands of the bureaucrats in government, if you want to see what happens when the government takes control of resources look at Venezuela

there is no real money in resources, the only real resource that a country has is educated and developed human minds

You know I finally get what you are saying. There is no value in a resource if you lack the ability to process it and sell it in the open market. The parallel I draw is the movie There Will be Blood. Even though the townspeople lived under vast oil deposits, what value is it if they lack the ability to extract and sell said resource? You become dependent on an outside source to extract it for you and once they are in, they will take advantage of you.