The Man Who Broke the Music Business(Great read on Pirating/bootleg music)

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Just read whole article, great read, brings back memories.

All the standard tools, Fish IRC encryption, FlashFXP, EAC w/ Lame, Morgoth Releaser, raping site credits, preing a release, getting your shyt nuked, all the IRC beef that led to rippers jumping groups.


Yeah, i remember getting tight with one of the main cats from the most prestigious underground hip-hop ripping crew (I won't name names to protect everyone involved) and man those months that we were in contact I was eating good after lacing him with some exclusive joints from a certain underground rapper. I had access to everything they ever ripped which for a true mid 90s underground hip-hop head was heavenly. shyt i remember getting the albums fxp'ed to me and it took about 18 fukking seconds as soon as it was pre'd. shyt blew my mind. We fell out months later cause I couldn't consistently get exclusive unreleased shyt and I couldn't spend tons of hours on irc but while it lasted it was ill. Had access to anything I wanted.
 

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Them 2pac bootleggers were making killing in the bootleg scene though. I remember in 1999 there was this dude who used to post in an old ass forum called musicfantalk.com. His name was Dante and he had all them unleaked tupac songs. This was back in 1999 when songs like fortune and fame were just rumored tracks. This dude had all of them and used to sell them with consents to not leak them for like $200 a song. People were dumb enough to fukking buy them too. He even had that Makaveli and Dillinger album before Daz ripped everybody off trying to sell it. Wanna know why Daz never did? Cuz Dante threaten him to not sell it or else he would leak the songs. It was some real drama back then. I knew the dude and he hooked me up with a few remixes that were rare. I wonder what happened to him this day cuz ever since that site went down he went to hitemup.com until that site got closed too. Both sites were shut down cuz Dante would leak songs like once every few months

That was DanteBenz, @kingdizzy01 can tell you about him.
 

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I remember WCR would have a lot of big releases...they had Blueprint 2....RNS had ALL the major shyt tho, murdered the competition...even ESC had some good releases.....FTD was goat for underground hiphop

Learning IRC and subsequently learning how to "eat" :mjcry::blessed::feedme:

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Yeah, i remember getting tight with one of the main cats from the most prestigious underground hip-hop ripping crew (I won't name names to protect everyone involved) and man those months that we were in contact I was eating good after lacing him with some exclusive joints from a certain infamous u.g. rapper. I had access to everything they ever ripped which for a true mid 90s underground hip-hop head was heavenly. shyt i remember getting the last gangstarr lp fxp'ed to me and it took about 18 fukking seconds as soon as it was pre'd. shyt blew my mind. We fell out months later cause I couldn't consistently get exclusive unreleased shyt and I couldn't spend tons of hours on irc but while it lasted it was ill. Had access to anything I wanted.

I was in OSC doing Promo CDS for a short while before the dude in the article joined and knew RickOne (used a diff nick at the time). Then lost my connect and moved to VINYL and did some mixtapes. Was completely out of the scene by the time Graduation/Curtis came out, so was surprised to hear the dude went to OSC, as they never really had a ripper who got big releases like that.

Yes I loved reading about a song or project on the internet and being able to find it and get it. Time will make any project or song disappear after awhile on casual internet but sites was like the secret vault. There were a lot of really good hiphop groups. CR always had that west coast piff, RAGEMP3, FTD...
 

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This is definitely one of the most interesting reads I've ever come accross.

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It's crazy how a group of internet/computer fiends who never even met could carry such an operation of grand proportions such as this one. Everyone was in sync just off of chatrooms and phone calls, meaning they took this shyt very seriously. For a full decade, enough to destroy record labels and many artist careers who could've popped off if it weren't for these leakers.

On one hand, I can understand the disappointment regarding these dudes not capitalizing on what they were doing. But on the other hand I must confess these men knew and respected the high risks of what they were doing. They never got delusional about being the next bill gates or Napster king. They were minorities (plus a couple of white dudes) who knew that their model was gonna get them in an even worse whole had they come out of the shadows of their operation.

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yoo what about that dude that was ripping videos,Warrier vidz or smth like that,I tried to find some info on him,but all I got is some old ass messageboards.
Could anyone familliar clarify,input is greatly appreciated ;)
 

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Really long read, but well worth it. It is on the dude who was getting the CD's early from Universals printing facility in North Carolina.



http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/27/the-man-who-broke-the-music-business

Dope article, thanks for posting it. I remember getting in with a few ripping groups in the late 90s/early 00s. I couldn't believe it when I got into an IRC channel that had a bunch of RNS members, including kali, plus members of CMS, FTD, EGO etc... Shoulda known he was a fat Indian :heh:

Then the group ESC appeared later on.. think they were French.. They dropped a few albums that never even got released..

Clipse-Exclusive_Audio_Footage-RETAIL-2000-ESC, and that Kiley Dean/Timbaland album, crazy shyt
 

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He even had that Makaveli and Dillinger album before Daz ripped everybody off trying to sell it. Wanna know why Daz never did? Cuz Dante threaten him to not sell it or else he would leak the songs. It was some real drama back then. I knew the dude and he hooked me up with a few remixes that were rare. I wonder what happened to him this day cuz ever since that site went down he went to hitemup.com until that site got closed too. Both sites were shut down cuz Dante would leak songs like once every few months
hitemup changed to streethop, i recall it was shut down due to links to retail albums being posted. the dante/daz threats never happened, daz had the afeni attorneys after him for that mak n dillinger album. daz was tryin to push that for $100 and a whole lotta people ended up gettin their money took. daz has the masters to those tracks, thats why them songs will never be on a legit pac album, except they dont give a fukk about us because a mixed down copy of the master exists while the original master is damaged. the 'og vibe' tapes were something me and dante worked on.
 
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On one hand, I can understand the disappointment regarding these dudes not capitalizing on what they were doing. But on the other hand I must confess these men knew and respected the high risks of what they were doing. They never got delusional about being the next bill gates or Napster king. They were minorities (plus a couple of white dudes) who knew that their model was gonna get them in an even worse whole had they come out of the shadows of their operation.

:salute:


Wouldn't have worked though cause these dudes were SUPER illegal. Going legit wouldn't even be possible with their networks.

But the connections they DID have was far more than I ever imagined.

These motherfukkers had goddamn networks around the world.

That blows my mind.


Exactly.......all they really had was the thrill of being exclusive....It was artwork to them. When the top dog is stressing not to make money off of it...Thats art. And look what happened in the end. The top dog doesnt go to prison and Glover does 3 months.
 

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RNS and the others fed me back in highschool 1996-2000 :salute: I was in a small school and the only one who had a cd burner for a while. I was selling mix cd's for $30 a pop. Didn't even need to get a job til halfway through my senior year. People were amazed when I told them I could make a mix cd like :krs: They would give me a list and I'd hop on IRC or the FTP sites and grab it over a few nights. Then one of my friends got a burner and started undercutting me selling em for $10 :beli: ruthless
 
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