The Long-Shot Candidate Who Has the White House Worried - Joe Biden has a Cornel West problem.

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We shouldn’t have to offer jack shyt


Establishment democrats in a nutshell. Surprised you said the quiet part out loud.

They basically like the way things are, they just don't want Republicans to turn back the clock, and they're completely blind to how fukked up the world is at the moment and can't understand those who do see it.
 

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You live in the capital of a republican state. Not sure what Biden has to do with NC.


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His point was whatever, but this comeback is absurd.

You're talking about someone with a democrat mayor, democrat governor, democratic president, and you still reverted to "Blame the Republicans!" :laff:

What's the point of even pumping a Democrat for president if you don't think he has any impact on actual people in the states?
 

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Establishment democrats in a nutshell. Surprised you said the quiet part out loud.

They basically like the way things are, they just don't want Republicans to turn back the clock, and they're completely blind to how fukked up the world is at the moment and can't understand those who do see it.
We can’t keep begging for yall to do the bare minimum thing against republicans while republicans offer to ruin the world. Stop it.
 

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His point was whatever, but this comeback is absurd.

You're talking about someone with a democrat mayor, democrat governor, democratic president, and you still reverted to "Blame the Republicans!" :laff:

What's the point of even pumping a Democrat for president if you don't think he has any impact on actual people in the states?
The governor of NC frequently has laws and vetoes overturned because of the supermajority in the NC general assembly
 

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But but cornel west won't hurt Biden :stopitslime::beli:
In a potential 2024 Presidential Election matchup between Biden and Trump, candidates are tied with 44% support each. Twelve percent are undecided. Trump has gained about a point in the head to head matchup from the June Emerson poll.

When Green Party candidate Cornel West is added to the ballot, support for Trump and Biden declines slightly to 42% and 41% respectively, while 5% support West and 13% are undecided.



Wait, the poll went from tied to a 1% difference? You do realize that's way, way within the poll's margin of error and thus statistically meaningless, right?


Not to mention one of the people who liked your comment was just ranting about hypothetical polls being meaningless, he sure changed quick.

This was in response to Bernie leading by 11-15 points over Trump in 20 consecutive polls going all the way into May 2020:


Bernie dominated hypothetical polls. Who would even honestly respect those poll results?
Fam they’re in here posting polls from a hypothetical match up before the primary was even won!
Enough is e-fukking-nough.

Yall got hypothetical polls of random match ups before the primary ended
NO nikka WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!

THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING. You keep touting HYPOTHETICAL BERNIE V TRUMP POLLS...WHICH ARE HYPOTHETICALS!
YOU QUOTED POLLS FROM MARCH TO MAY 2020!!!
These are hypothetical polls because it assumes both won their primaries. Both had not won their primaries. It was sheer fantasy, since Bernie got blown out twice.

People say all sorts of shyts in polls until its time to pick.

Are you playing this game?



Come on Napolean, explain why a Bernie lead of 10-15 points over Trump just five months before the election was some sort of bullshyt "hypothetical", but a meaningless 1% shift in one poll more than a year before the election gets a response from you.
 

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Come on Napolean, explain why a Bernie lead of 10-15 points over Trump just five months before the election was some sort of bullshyt "hypothetical", but a meaningless 1% shift in one poll more than a year before the election gets a response from you.

Neither had won the primary. You posted polls from March to May 2020. It was not a realistic match up because it wasn’t an actual choice voters would make in the general i.e. hypothetical. Voters do different things when the condition and impact of their choices change.
 

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The governor of NC frequently has laws and vetoes overturned because of the supermajority in the NC general assembly

He hasn't had a veto overturned since 2018, liar. They're attempting to overturn a veto right now, but that hadn't happened since Republicans lost their supermajority in the 2018 elections.

So you're saying that Democratic presidents, senates, governors, mayors, and city councils are completely irrelevant if Republicans have control in the state house?




We can’t keep begging for yall to do the bare minimum thing against republicans while republicans offer to ruin the world. Stop it.

Who the fukk is "y'all"? I have advocated strongly against every Republican presidential candidate during my entire time on this board.

And honestly, most people here wish you would do the "bare minimum", because you're dense to even realize that you're annoying as fukk and counterproductive. There's zero chance that your WOAT posting is winning hearts and minds or turning people towards the Republican Party. You do realize that people in the middle vote emotionally, and you trigger negative emotions every single time one of your 300,000 comments appears before their eyes?
 

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Neither had won the primary. You posted polls from March to May 2020. It was not a realistic match up because it wasn’t an actual choice voters would make in the general i.e. hypothetical. Voters do different things when the condition and impact of their choices change.


So your argument is that Bernie couldn't beat Trump because.....Bernie can't run against Trump? That's really your fukking argument now?

Remember, YOU were the one who claimed the polls proved that Bernie couldn't beat Trump. YOU were the one who claimed that people made excuses and dismissed reality whenever you posted the polls. Then when I posted all 20 consecutive polls showing Bernie with a huge lead over Trump, proving that you were lying and that it was a fukking whopper of a lie, suddenly you changed to "all general election polls are irrelevant until the primaries are over."

Then someone posts a general election poll of a hypothetical matchup more than A YEAR before the election, with a hypothetical candidate who has 4 ongoing criminal cases against him right now, and you think a fukking 1% shift in the numbers matters.

Where's the part where you admit that the pollers themselves say any 1% move in results is completely meaningless because it's way within the poll's margin of error? Are you mathematically illiterate, or just intellectually dishonest?
 

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His point was whatever, but this comeback is absurd.

You're talking about someone with a democrat mayor, democrat governor, democratic president, and you still reverted to "Blame the Republicans!" :laff:

What's the point of even pumping a Democrat for president if you don't think he has any impact on actual people in the states?
He lives in Raleigh NC. A state with a republican super majority who regularly overrides the governors veto. Filled with purposeful subterfuge and an electorate who continues to reward them with more seats.

It’s clear You have no idea what’s going on in NC politics.

But they have a dem governor. Great and he was able to get things like Medicaid expansion and raises for teachers and state employees, but republicans refuse to pass a budget to enact these things.


And for the record, there’s nothing trivial about pointing to the fact that it is more practical to expect changes at the state and local level to start with local politicians and not with the federal government.

End of the day, he lives in one of the most popular and fastest growing areas in the country that sees over 1k people move there a month. Prices are going to rise. A lot of folks put off buying a home when prices were lower and more affordable and are coming to terms with the fact that they’re now going to have to pay big city prices to live.
 

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He lives in Raleigh NC. A state with a republican super majority who regularly overrides the governors veto.

You mean the supermajority they just picked up a few months ago, and by "regularly" you mean not since 2018, right?




And for the record, there’s nothing trivial about pointing to the fact that it is more practical to expect changes at the state and local level to start with local politicians

Yup, I agree that housing policy is mostly local. Their mayor is a democrat, right? And I assume most of the city council is liberal too?




But more to the point, we do agree that what you're saying is that the president, senate, house, governor, mayor, and city council are all irrelevant and we should expect them to do nothing if there's a Republican state legislature, right?
 

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You mean the supermajority they just picked up a few months ago, and by "regularly" you mean not since 2018, right?
They’ve held the majority since 2011.
Yup, I agree that housing policy is mostly local. Their mayor is a democrat, right? And I assume most of the city council is liberal too?
cool, so he shouldn’t be asking what Biden should do and he should be looking at his local government.
But more to the point, we do agree that what you're saying is that the president, senate, house, governor, mayor, and city council are all irrelevant and we should expect them to do nothing if there's a Republican state legislature, right?
This is just you trying to argue for arguments sake because that’s your joy.

The reality is the city of Raleigh and wake county have relaxed rules, changed zoning, and taken other steps to increase housing supply. But the fact remains, companies are going to invest in what’s profitable.

And it is currently a profitable business model from a lender perspective for these luxury apartments that fill up and for more expensive homes.

His best bet was to get a home when rates were low using the variety of first time home buyer, mortgage and down payment assistance programs. That’s still the case TBH.

But to act like nothing is being done or has been done is just arguing in bad faith.

Here’s the reality:



You also have large amounts of corporations gobbling up profits.

The reason I pointed to republicans initially was because dems do things like this and republicans tell them to kick rocks

 

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Ironically, affordable housing is probably the largest tenant of his campaign and we’re not even discussing his views on it. Which kinda of highlights how DoA has campaign appears.


His solution is national rent control and increased min wage.
 

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Ironically, affordable housing is probably the largest tenant of his campaign and we’re not even discussing his views on it. Which kinda of highlights how DoA has campaign appears.


His solution is national rent control and increased min wage.
For the record, I support this approach. I was fortunate to be in a rent controlled unit in SF. Made life easier for me and my GF.

And @Rhakim i also agree that the NC GA and local dem elected leaders should do more to increase and maintain housing affordability.

I’d like to see citizens actually force the issue.
 
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