The Little Known Biblical Curse of Egypt by Isaiah

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Not discussing or arguing in this thread. Not the point of me posting this. Neither want to derail Because this is a thread for you all to discuss your topic. I respect everyone’s beliefs. I used to be a Hebrew Israelite and grew up Christian until traveling to Africa including Egypt and reading much black literature and seeing historical artifacts first hand.. Respectfully seeing myself out. But for those in seek of the truth feel free to watch. These points are backed by literature, cave drawing and sculptures, and actual literary and physical acts that are scientifically proven as they remain available to the eye today if you go back to your homeland. But this guy can breaks it down simpler for those in seek of truth. Y’all take care. Never take someone’s word for something. Do the research yourself to follow up on what he said. Again this is just someone explaining what is already common knowledge by historians.

Again will not respondBig and leaving out of respect for thread and not trying to derail. Not posting out of Ego, but out of educating my brothers and sisters because I love you

Thanks for the post. I don’t consider it derailing the thread as it’s related to everything we are talking about: Egypt, Africa, Hebrew Israelites, Christianity, etc....

You should comment further.

But as far as the video goes. It good to see another perspective on Christianity (although some of it is laughable) but at the end of the day believing what this guy says is no different than how we see the next man believing in any religion or faith.

His interpretation of the Bible (no matter how biased) and twisting of scriptures is no different than what many new religions have done ever since Christianity existed

It’s your choice what to believe. You choose one narrative or the other. But there’s always one truth obviously and the guy in the video point of view is clearly contrast to Christianity. Thats his understanding so it is what it is.

take a close look at exactly what parts of Christianity he focuses on and attacks think about why.

And why even spend so much time trying to discredit or show the error in religion that he claims is completely based off a “made up story” anyways. That defeats the purpose. Kinda makes me only believe the story more

 

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they never say that Noah couldnt still speak and write the tongue from before the flood

I was reading this the other day
This Biblical Text May Prove Khufu Didn't Build the Great Pyramid | Gaia

There were 1-2 global civilizations pre-flood IMO...there is also evidence of a massive pyramid in Bosnia too
Bosnian pyramid claims - Wikipedia

Long story short...I think all the mythologies and biblical stories tie into an ancient conflict before the flood and may just be retellings from respective sides. Vedas are the only books to really document it fully

Yea that’s explained in Genesis.

What about the ge’ez language though?

 

[Ducktales]

Thanks for the post. I don’t consider it derailing the thread as it’s related to everything we are talking about: Egypt, Africa, Hebrew Israelites, Christianity, etc....

You should comment further.

But as far as the video goes. It good to see another perspective on Christianity (although some of it is laughable) but at the end of the day believing what this guy says is no different than how we see the next man believing in any religion or faith.

His interpretation of the Bible (no matter how biased) and twisting of scriptures is no different than what many new religions have done ever since Christianity existed

It’s your choice what to believe. You choose one narrative or the other. But there’s always one truth obviously and the guy in the video point of view is clearly contrast to Christianity. Thats his understanding so it is what it is.

take a close look at exactly what parts of Christianity he focuses on and attacks think about why.

And why even spend so much time trying to discredit or show the error in religion that he claims is completely based off a “made up story” anyways. That defeats the purpose. Kinda makes me only believe the story more

I think I mentioned that my knowledge comes from actual literature. That was simply something I found right quick on the internet to point things out to people who don’t want to read actual literature from Diop John Henrik Clarke. Dr Ben. But he mentions that he is only doing it to help black people wake up. I am not a follower of him lol. I am an actual anthropologist And it’s my job to travel the world to learn about history. And study historical artifacts. You can not point out a truth which does not exist outside of the actual book you read. Does not make sense... either way here is actual scholarly work by legends....that guy is just a reg guy trying to teach. .I mean no disrespect but it has been proven Jews did not exist in Egypt during these times. Also all of the stories and images that predate Christ are literally found in the pyramids of Egypt. The original work. Also plenty of Gods and Godesses in Indian culture and many more that predate The Old Testament and have literally the same exact story. Without Egypt, you don’t have the story of the Israelites. Without that.. you have no bible.


This video below is all you need man

 

[Ducktales]

Thanks for the post. I don’t consider it derailing the thread as it’s related to everything we are talking about: Egypt, Africa, Hebrew Israelites, Christianity, etc....

You should comment further.
But as far as the video goes. It good to see another perspective on Christianity (although some of it is laughable) but at the end of the day believing what this guy says is no different than how we see the next man believing in any religion or faith.

His interpretation of the Bible (no matter how biased) and twisting of scriptures is no different than what many new religions have done ever since Christianity existed

It’s your choice what to believe. You choose one narrative or the other. But there’s always one truth obviously and the guy in the video point of view is clearly contrast to Christianity. Thats his understanding so it is what it is.

take a close look at exactly what parts of Christianity he focuses on and attacks think about why.

And why even spend so much time trying to discredit or show the error in religion that he claims is completely based off a “made up story” anyways. That defeats the purpose. Kinda makes me only believe the story more

last thing to mention. And I know this because of my profession. There is no proven evidence of any of the biblical works or characters in the Bible existed. None that are considered authentic. Drawings and artifacts are simply that.. and they come into history much later after these stories took place. You cannot be biased if you study actual evidence, travel to these places, or read scholarly work that gives credence to the fact the Bible is simply fiction. Just as Harry Potter or Game of Thrones. I have a beautiful life and have no reason to hate Christianity. Again ... I was a Christian until I gained knowledge through studying and experiencing actual history. Sorry to break it to you


When I tell you these things... this is what is most important.....

I entered this profession and was excited to prove Jesus and the Bible was real... and in specifics, that they were black. By being centered in my religion and loving it wanting to prove something... I soon realized that everything I believed was not true and no evidence existed.

 

[Ducktales]

For anyone open to the videos posted above. I am an anthropologist. I have viewed these artifacts first hand. Met with scholars. Been to these places. Spoken with elders in the Niger-Congo, Ethiopia, and the Dogon who all attested to these things as well. Please remember videos are just there for guidance. There is scholarly work. Much. But there is no way possible you can not see the African stories and characters that the Bible stole from verbatim. Horus Iris ect. Original Ark story. Flood story, Adam and Eve Story and so on. These are found to historically predate the stories in the Bible.

I began my career and journey to prove the Bible was the true work of God as I am a Christian all my life. I unfortunately was devastated to find without a doubt that it is simply fiction. Just as much fiction as the Greek Pagan Gods Or Hindu Gods or Celtic Gods. It is in mans nature to try to make sense of these he does not understand. We don’t understand who God is or what God is if she exist in which I truly hope so! in the same capacity that we don’t with space. It is too advanced for our minds. So we make up stories until proof is given. It’s human nature. I know space exist not because of a book. But because I can go there.. I can look up into the sky. I can view it from a telescope. There are other stars and planets hanging in the sky. Do you understand

 

[Ducktales]

 

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For scientist and scholars- saying the Bible is real in any capacity, is the same as stating there is Gravity in space. There simply is none. How can we prove both don’t exist. We can back it up with scientific evidence.

 

[Ducktales]

I don’t know this guy. But I remember this being popular

 

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I think I mentioned that my knowledge comes from actual literature. That was simply something I found right quick on the internet to point things out to people who don’t want to read actual literature from Diop John Henrik Clarke. Dr Ben. But he mentions that he is only doing it to help black people wake up. I am not a follower of him lol. I am an actual anthropologist And it’s my job to travel the world to learn about history. And study historical artifacts. You can not point out a truth which does not exist outside of the actual book you read. Does not make sense... either way here is actual scholarly work by legends....that guy is just a reg guy trying to teach. .I mean no disrespect but it has been proven Jews did not exist in Egypt during these times. Also all of the stories and images that predate Christ are literally found in the pyramids of Egypt. The original work. Also plenty of Gods and Godesses in Indian culture and many more that predate The Old Testament and have literally the same exact story. Without Egypt, you don’t have the story of the Israelites. Without that.. you have no bible.


This video below is all you need man

I’ve seen this guy in the videos from a few Instagram posts.

If it was that easy to prove everything in the Bible as being true historically that wouldn’t leave much up to faith would it?

Maybe Hebrew people back then knew it to be true because they lived in a Time not far removed from those events and remember and pass down all the stories and kept it to themselves in the small group of those who survived and carried on traditions properly.

Fast forward to today with science and mans skepticism we need to know everything 100% but some things are lost in history or not documented but scientists will never be satisfied honestly

But that’s besides the point

All I’m saying is...

You talk like all these Egyptian and Indian religions are superior to anything in the Bible cause based on archeological findings they’re older civilizations?

Well don’t these scientific methods of dating require some element in faith in science and the scientists who tell you this

Scientists don’t even really know what dinosaurs look like but we have plenty Jurassic park movies

the Bible claims to be the 1st religion and first people to have a monotheistic faith and relationship with GOD were the Hebrew people. You can’t prove it but you can’t say it didn’t happen because history simply doesn’t go back that far

Somethings we just don’t know.

You have to either believe the Bible or not, honestly.

But if we’re strictly talking religions, all the other ancient religions you mention are polytheistic. Thats what the people believed. That’s proven.

And that’s the main difference between the Hebrew people of the Bible and pretty much the narrative of the OT

EGYPT & pharaoh just play the main villain role and a reoccurring theme symbolically

I’m not understanding why you and all these scholars in the videos focus on ancient Egypt so much unless you believe their Gods and religion is the truth opposed to Bible based religions

the Bible clearly shoes that Egypt and their Gods is what the Hebrew people were opposed to and trying to escape from (along with slavery)

so I understand the conflict.

But whether you personally believe all the stories of the books in the Old Testament Bible are literal or not isn’t much of a big deal today in 2020 or is it relevant because like you say

“Nobody can prove it outside of what’s written in the Bible”

The only thing relevant today (for Jews and Christians) is the message.

In the same way we learn about all the stories from all the old Gods/goddesses in school from ancient Egypt, Greek, Rome

Africans have stories from their Gods. Indians in India have their own Hindi gods and stories, etc.... but people know they are all make believe and today it’s seen as “mythology”.

But what hasn’t been proven is Jesus being fake/mythological and not a historical figure who walked this earth

That’s the difference. You don’t need to believe his the “Son of God” but can’t just explain him away as a Santa Claus

instead of looking to ancient Egypt to historically validate the Bible maybe you should’ve been studying the life of Jesus.

 

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I’ve seen this guy in the videos from a few Instagram posts.

If it was that easy to prove everything in the Bible as being true historically that wouldn’t leave much up to faith would it?

Maybe Hebrew people back then knew it to be true because they lived in a Time not far removed from those events and remember and pass down all the stories and kept it to themselves in the small group of those who survived and carried on traditions properly.

Fast forward to today with science and mans skepticism we need to know everything 100% but some things are lost in history or not documented but scientists will never be satisfied honestly

But that’s besides the point

All I’m saying is...

You talk like all these Egyptian and Indian religions are superior to anything in the Bible cause based on archeological findings they’re older civilizations?

Well don’t these scientific methods of dating require some element in faith in science and the scientists who tell you this

Scientists don’t even really know what dinosaurs look like but we have plenty Jurassic park movies

the Bible claims to be the 1st religion and first people to have a monotheistic faith and relationship with GOD were the Hebrew people. You can’t prove it but you can’t say it didn’t happen because history simply doesn’t go back that far

Somethings we just don’t know.

You have to either believe the Bible or not, honestly.

But if we’re strictly talking religions, all the other ancient religions you mention are polytheistic. Thats what the people believed. That’s proven.

And that’s the main difference between the Hebrew people of the Bible and pretty much the narrative of the OT

EGYPT & pharaoh just play the main villain role and a reoccurring theme symbolically

I’m not understanding why you and all these scholars in the videos focus on ancient Egypt so much unless you believe their Gods and religion is the truth opposed to Bible based religions

the Bible clearly shoes that Egypt and their Gods is what the Hebrew people were opposed to and trying to escape from (along with slavery)

so I understand the conflict.

But whether you personally believe all the stories of the books in the Old Testament Bible are literal or not isn’t much of a big deal today in 2020 or is it relevant because like you say

“Nobody can prove it outside of what’s written in the Bible”

The only thing relevant today (for Jews and Christians) is the message.

In the same way we learn about all the stories from all the old Gods/goddesses in school from ancient Egypt, Greek, Rome

Africans have stories from their Gods. Indians in India have their own Hindi gods and stories, etc.... but people know they are all make believe and today it’s seen as “mythology”.

But what hasn’t been proven is Jesus being fake/mythological and not a historical figure who walked this earth

That’s the difference. You don’t need to believe his the “Son of God” but can’t just explain him away as a Santa Claus

instead of looking to ancient Egypt to historically validate the Bible maybe you should’ve been studying the life of Jesus.

the Bible is Not real period. There is literally no way you listened to those videos and still arrived at this conclusion. Those are not just passed down stories that they are telling. They are giving lectures from evidence they have seen first hand and real scholarly research. The oldest rocks on the earth are over 4 billion years old in which because of things like that we know for absolute fact that the earth is over 4 billion years old.. The Bible says the earth is around 10000 years old . Can you explain that??We don’t even need Egypt for that. The Bible says the earth is .. Egypt is not even needed to be mentioned to say the Bible is not real. But common sense the reason that is the First thing people point to... is because that is where the stories come from verbatim. The name of the characters are simply changed and altered once the destruction of black civilization and Egypt in which the Bible was created by the Greeks. Hearing someone just tell a story without any of that is what Christianity is. I am a unicorn. The question is not prove I am not a unicorn... it would be for you to ask me prove I am a unicorn. I Can easily be proved wrong by actual biological or some type of evidence... the whole things get lost in history is a fallacy. You literally are just saying fukk the facts , just have faith. No way you actually saw these videos some of them actually are showing the artifacts on camera There is No historian in the world who does not know that Egyptian civilization as well as Indian and Asian civilizations in itself amongst others date back older than the biblical account of earth. It’s like if you have no brother. But I stated emphatically he existed . All you would have to ask me is prove he is real. Well I need to reference your parents and you as well as birth certificates and ect. The end result is if there is none of that he never existed .. There is literally a historical account of every event in history by way of artifacts or actual stated history. Did you know one of the oldest artifacts found in the world are sculptures of black African females. They are pregnant and foi side with the earliest cave drawings (that prove that at one point the earliest identification and acknowledgement of creation was giving sole credit to the woman. The same as all pre colonialism African cultures who worshiped female Gods. Not literal Gods. Just representations of life. How on earth do we have scientific record of a civilization older than 3 million years ago but not a single one of the biblical figures Why none for a single story for the Bible. O wait there are found already in ancient civilizations that predate the Bible. People obviously focus on Egypt because that is where most of the stories come fromthats like me taking your mother and father away from history. Without them you don’t exist.
The whole story of Egypt having Jewish slaves and beleiving in these Gods literally is historically inaccurate to the Fullest Extent. You can find no proof of this outside of one book. You need to think. That is like me saying Harry Potter is real.. all you have to do is look at Chaoter 1 and so on. People don’t even need to point to Egypt. But it’s literally the foundation of a people that are historically proven to not exist at the time. First the main builders and architects of the pyramids were not slaves at all. Second..The slaves in Egypt were prisoners of war that were released and commissioned in very high regards to those who built the pyramids. They in fact were buried with honors. Historical evidence of this. We found their burial sites and bodies. In fact they were highly regarded Great Pyramid tombs unearth 'proof' workers were not slaves

The question really to ask yourself is... You are trying to focus on the part where I said people have stories. Without the other forms of proof I mentioned. You cannot price to me the Bible is real by referencing that same book. How do you not get that? Literally can you provide a piece of evidence. Just 1 that says the Bible is real. I can name a million more why it’s not. The proof of burden is on that which states something is true. How are you going to tell me the stuff does not predate the Bible or there is no evidence if I have actually been there. No disrespect but you have not done traveled to these places. Seen these tombs or artifacts first hand. You are just reading a book which has no proof

and last thing the origins of spirituality is African spirituality of Voudon and Animalism. The Gods served as representations of nature and the universe itself. The Egyptians did not believe in Isis Or Ra or who ever being real people. They just served as representations of the universe and nature. This is true african spirituality. That’s what they have stated themselves. It is the Greeks that stole this ancient history and made them into real Gods . Those in which you believe to be real. Those stories of all the animals living on a ship together. People living in fish.. they were never meant to be taken seriously. This is the story of white supremacy. You need to come to grips with that

 

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Will say for the last time. I traveled the Africa , became a anthropologist through the desire to prove the Bible and Jesus is real. I come from a very religious family. Mother bible school. Teacher. Grandfather pastor. I was not happy and denied over and over. But the evidence is undeniable. There is biblical evidence. And all the evidence in the world to prove it does not exist. I was depressed but it is what it is. I wish I was wrong. But you can’t compare what’s in your book to what’s in every other book. What’s under a microscope.. what’s in a cave, a temple... can’t deny ancient civilizations who still have elders alive who can account for their complete histories with artifacts that back it up. You have been lied to. Realize you were taught to hate your true history and people.

 

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Will say for the last time. I traveled the Africa , became a anthropologist through the desire to prove the Bible and Jesus is real. I come from a very religious family. Mother bible school. Teacher. Grandfather pastor. I was not happy and denied over and over. But the evidence is undeniable. There is biblical evidence. And all the evidence in the world to prove it does not exist. I was depressed but it is what it is. I wish I was wrong. But you can’t compare what’s in your book to what’s in every other book. What’s under a microscope.. what’s in a cave, a temple... can’t deny ancient civilizations who still have elders alive who can account for their complete histories with artifacts that back it up. You have been lied to. Realize you were taught to hate your true history and people.

What’s your opinion on Jesus and the early Christians

Was Jesus a fraud. A liar. Did he deceive all his early followers?

Did he even exist to you?

Who is it that all the stories of the Gospels are referring to? Who spoke the words attributed to him? Who did the miracles people claim he did? Who did the Jewish people accuse of being a blasphemer and false messiah? who did they have crucified?

Did crucifixions even happen? Did the temple even exist? Were there Jewish priests, religious leaders like Pharisees and sadducees back then?

At what point did the Bible stop becoming “fake stories created by the white man to control us” but real actual historical accounts and events and that we can trust and believe in with proof?

And another question off topic just because I’m curios,

How did the ancient Egyptians build the pyramids? Based on all your studies what does it tell you?

 

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What’s your opinion on Jesus and the early Christians

Was Jesus a fraud. A liar. Did he deceive all his early followers?

Did he even exist to you?

Who is it that all the stories of the Gospels are referring to? Who spoke the words attributed to him? Who did the miracles people claim he did? Who did the Jewish people accuse of being a blasphemer and false messiah? who did they have crucified?

Did crucifixions even happen? Did the temple even exist? Were there Jewish priests, religious leaders like Pharisees and sadducees back then?

At what point did the Bible stop becoming “fake stories created by the white man to control us” but real actual historical accounts and events and that we can trust and believe in with proof?

And another question off topic just because I’m curios,

How did the ancient Egyptians build the pyramids? Based on all your studies what does it tell you?

I keep presenting you more and more evidence At the point to where I am wasting too much time. I’m pretty sure the Old Testament comes before the New Testament. And the Old Testament is fiction as I have stated reasons and evidence why. You definitely don’t want me to easily rip apart Jesus and the New Testament. But still you cannot have the Old Testament be fiction and the new one real and characters exist lol. Do you want to say the New Testament is the true bible? The same way the Bible literature is manipulated to say God didnt truly mean slavery is ok, though it is specifically specified that a slave is a property of man. But he may whip him and punish him like a animal as long as he recovers.


when all I have asked you to do is one thing... one thing... Give me one... one thing that proves God or Jesus is real. One example that a biblical story is true... how can you not name one? Like just one? Then I can say ok well I agree or disagree because of this or that proof..that’s how a intelligent discussion is carried on. Otherwise it is just gossip. The information is out there. Not just for selected people. Search google for proof Noah’s Ark existed. For human giant bones. Proof of Anything. If you can’t, then what does that tell you? I posted the Neil Degrasse Tyson video just to show you that no scholars and scientist have found evidence that Jesus or any biblical events took place. I keep listing and explaining things to you. How can you ask how are we sure the proof is real or sufficient. I just explained the numerous forms of proof there is. As much proof as I can say you and I exist. Don’t take my word for anything.. actually do the research. That is something they tell you not to do in church. Faith means

but if you simply can tell me one thing in the Bible that has anything to back it up in the real world than I would take it as you are actually serious.
I’m not telling you to have faith in what I say. I say to research lol. Our greatest black scholars all... All believed the Bible was not a lie. Don’t make me get into the whole white Jesus thing... that’s irrelevant. I am saying Jesus does not exist period because there is no proof of him being in any of the places he claimed to be, no proof of his crucifictuon... nothing. The Bible acknowledges proof does not exist in any form of evidence because they say to have faith....


Faith definition in the Oxford dictionary -

Faith - strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

 

[Ducktales]

World religion and mythology that predates Christ and all has historical evidence to back how old they are. Again none of these Gods are literal beings. Just representations of spirituality. Egypt as well as other civilizations recorded their history such as we do. Egypt recorded its history through pictures inside its pyramids and tombs. They have every significant or major historical event of all battles and anything you can imagine shown in those buildings that you can get on a plane .. land and view it right now for yourself. Let me guess they found pictures that had biblical stories and removed them... no. There are recorded stories from over a million years ago before the Bible even says we were created that show the Egyptian original stories inside their pyramids. Why would there be no Moses or anything dealing with him. Stolen history

Egypt 3000 BC
Horus bron Dec 25
Born of a virgin star in the East
Adorned by 3 Kings
Teacher at 12
Baptized ministry at 30
12 Disciples
Performed Miracles
Lamb of God
Dead for 3 days and then resurrected

Greece 1200 BC
Attis
Born of a virgin
Born on dec 25th
Crucified
Dead 3 days
Resurrected

900 BC - India
Krishna
Born of a virgin
Star in the East
Performed miracle resurrected

Greece 500 BC
Dionysus
Born of a Virgin
Born Dec 25th
Performed miracles
King of kings
Alpha and Omega
Resurrected

Persia 1200 BC
Mithra
Born of a virgin
December 25th
12 Diciples
Performed miracles
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected
”Sunday Worship.

why do we know these Religious Figures existed before the mythical creation of Jesus. Because there is evidence in many forms. Not by hearing something or having faith.
Do you see the pattern


The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.

Thomas Paine (Anglo-American revolutionary and writer, 1737-1809)