The Little Known Biblical Curse of Egypt by Isaiah

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Nothing wrong with them it’s just they’re the only ones I’ve heard say some of the things posted in this thread
they might be right :ehh: bombastic as they may be I've never actually disagreed with them in passing

if not for the Nubians helping in the retaking of Egypt, it might have been assyrian/babylonian 1000 years earlier than what history shows

this also explains the historical relations between the two countries/kingdoms
 

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“Egypt” can mean many things in the Bible depending how you interpret it :manny:

Are you Hebrew Israelite :patrice:

Well yes and no. Egypt can mean "bondage" BUT there was a literal nation of "Egypt". And it should go without saying, that it wasnt called "Egypt"either. This LITERAL nation that the bible talks about was here. And the events of the bible happened here (in the Americas). Thats why they cant find any artifacts over in the middle east...

And no sir Im not. Since I didnt see Moses, David or anyone like that label their beliefs, I choose not to as well :hubie:
 

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Well yes and no. Egypt can mean "bondage" BUT there was a literal nation of "Egypt". And it should go without saying, that it wasnt called "Egypt"either. This LITERAL nation that the bible talks about was here. And the events of the bible happened here (in the Americas). Thats why they cant find any artifacts over in the middle east...

And no sir Im not. Since I didnt see Moses, David or anyone like that label their beliefs, I choose not to as well :hubie:

Wait a minute, just so I understand you right....

You’re saying the events in the first 5 books of the Old Testament Bible literally took place in North America :dwillhuh:

And the Hebrew people some how made their way to the Isreal/Palestine region of today during the time of the king David etc :patrice:

Cause we all know the story of how Jesus went into Egypt as a baby.

And then there’s also the Egyptian eunuch story from Acts.

They clearly weren’t talking about North America

Maybe I’m confused,

are we talking 2 sets off Hebrew people living in both areas at the same time :lupe:
 

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Wait a minute, just so I understand you right....

You’re saying the events in the first 5 books of the Old Testament Bible literally took place in North America :dwillhuh:

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And the Hebrew people some how made their way to the Isreal/Palestine region of today during the time of the king David etc :patrice:

Nope. Colombus was looking for their land in the Americas because no one in that time believed it was in "Palestine" which is why you'll never find ONE map with that land being called Israel before the 18/1900s..

Cause we all know the story of how Jesus went into Egypt as a baby.

And then there’s also the Egyptian eunuch story from Acts.

They clearly weren’t talking about North America

Maybe I’m confused,

are we talking 2 sets off Hebrew people living in both areas at the same time :lupe:

Jesus is fake bruh. Read dum diversas :yeshrug:

As far as everything else, look into what Colombus believed and was looking for. He didnt believe the land was where you think it is. So once you see that (and if you look YOU WILL see that) the next question is why did the narrative change from them believing it was in the Americas to them believing it was in Africa (they wanted to set up Israel in Zimbabwe or Congo before settling on Palestine), to them setting on Palestine? If you're not willing to look into that or ask yourself about the narrative change, then I dont think this convo should continue. Even though I could get into early cacs who said there were tribes in America with Hebrew customs but since,outta respect, I dont want to derail OP's thread that he put alot of time into anymore, without his blessing Im done in this thread. Catch me in another one breh
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I dont want to derail OP's thread that he put alot of time into anymore, without his blessing Im done in this thread.



Catch me in another one breh
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Elephantine papyri - Wikipedia

'Now our forefathers built this temple in the fortress of Elephantine back in the days of the kingdom of Egypt, and when Cambyses came to Egypt he found it built. They (the Persians) knocked down all the temples of the gods of Egypt, but no one did any damage to this temple."

The family archive of Ananiah and Tamut[edit]
The eight papyri contained at the Brooklyn Museum concern one particular Jewish family, providing specific information about the daily lives of a man called Ananiah, a Jewish temple official; his wife, Tamut, an Egyptian slave; and their children, over the course of forty-seven years. Egyptian farmers discovered the archive of Ananiah and Tamut on Elephantine Island in 1893, while digging for fertilizer in the remains of ancient mud-brick houses. They found at least eight papyrus rolls which were purchased by Charles Edwin Wilbour. He was the first person to find Aramaic papyri. The papyri have been grouped here by topic, such as marriage contract, real estate transaction, or loan agreement.[19]

Marriage document[edit]

Marriage Document of Ananiah and Tamut, July 3, 449 BCE, Brooklyn Museum
Ancient marriage documents generally formalized already existing relationships. In this case, Ananiah and Tamut already had a young son when the document was drawn up. Because Tamut was a slave when she married Ananiah, the contract has special conditions: usually, it was the groom and his father-in-law who made Jewish marriage agreements, but Ananiah made this contract with Tamut's master, Meshullam, who legally was her father. In addition, special provision was made to free the couple's son, also a slave to Meshullam; perhaps Ananiah consented to the small dowry of either 7 or 15 shekels (the text is ambiguous) in order to obtain his son's freedom. Future children, however, would still be born slaves. In contrast to Jewish documents like this one, contemporaneous Egyptian marriage documents were negotiated between a husband and wife.[20]

Deed of Emancipation[edit]
Nearly twenty-two years after her marriage to Ananiah, Tamut's master released her and her daughter, Yehoishema, from slavery. It was rare for a slave to be freed. And though a slave could marry a free person, their children usually belonged to the master. As an institution, slavery in Egypt at that time differed in notable ways from the practice in some other cultures: Egyptian slaves retained control over personal property, had professions, and were entitled to compensation. During the Persian Period in Egypt, it was not uncommon to sell children, or even oneself, into slavery to pay debts.

Real estate documents[edit]
Bagazust and Ubil sell a house to Ananiah[edit]

Property Sale Document: Bagazust and Ubil Sell a House to Ananiah, September 14, 437 BCE Brooklyn Museum
This document to the right describes a property purchased by Ananiah, twelve years after his marriage, from a Persian soldier named Bagazust and his wife, Ubil. The property, in a town on Elephantine Island, named for the god Khnum, was located across the street from the Temple of Yahou and adjacent to the Persian family of Ubil's Father. As such proximity might suggest, the Egyptians, Jews, and Persians in Elephantine all lived among one another. The renovation of the house and its gradual transfers to family members are the central concerns of the next several documents in Ananiah's family archive.[21]

Ananiah gives Tamut part of the house[edit]
Three years after purchasing the house from Bagazust and Ubil, Ananiah transferred ownership of an apartment within the now renovated house to his wife, Tamut. Although Tamut thereafter owned the apartment, Ananiah required that at her death it pass to their children, Palti and Yehoishema. As with all property transfers within a family, this gift was described as made "in love". Image of document in gallery.[22]

Ananiah gives Yehoishema part of the house[edit]
Drawn up thirty years after the preceding papyrus, this document is one of several that gradually transferred ownership of Ananiah and Tamut's house to their daughter, Yehoishema, as payment on her dowry. The legal descriptions of the house preserve the names of Ananiah's neighbors. They included an Egyptian who held the post of gardener of the Egyptian god Khnum and, on the other side, two Persian boatmen. Image of document in gallery.[23]

Ananiah gives Yehoishema another part of the house[edit]
For his daughter Yehoishema's dowry, Ananiah had transferred to her partial ownership of the house he shared with Tamut. After making more repairs to the building, Ananiah transferred a further section of the house, described in this document, to the dowry. Image of document in gallery.[24]

Ananiah and Tamut sell the house to their son-in-law[edit]
This papyrus records the sale of the remaining portion of Ananiah and Tamut's house to Yehoishema's husband. Possibly because the clients were dissatisfied with something the scribe had written, at one point the text of the document breaks off and then starts over again, repeating what has gone on before with some additions. The boundary description included here refers to the Temple of Yahou in Elephantine, now rebuilt eight years after its destruction in 410 BCE during a civil war conflict that arose out of a land dispute. Image of document in gallery below.[25]

Loan agreement[edit]
Sometime in December 402 BCE, Ananiah son of Haggai borrowed two monthly rations of grain from Pakhnum son of Besa, an Aramean with an Egyptian name. This receipt would have been held by Pakhnum and returned to Ananiah son of Haggai when he repaid the loan. No interest is charged but there is a penalty for failing to repay the loan by the agreed date. The receipt demonstrates that friendly business relations continued between Egyptians and Jews in Elephantine after the expulsion of the Persians by Amyrtaeus, the only pharaoh of the Twenty-eighth Dynasty of Egypt. Image of document is in gallery below.[26]

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Nope. Colombus was looking for their land in the Americas because no one in that time believed it was in "Palestine" which is why you'll never find ONE map with that land being called Israel before the 18/1900s..



Jesus is fake bruh. Read dum diversas :yeshrug:

As far as everything else, look into what Colombus believed and was looking for. He didnt believe the land was where you think it is. So once you see that (and if you look YOU WILL see that) the next question is why did the narrative change from them believing it was in the Americas to them believing it was in Africa (they wanted to set up Israel in Zimbabwe or Congo before settling on Palestine), to them setting on Palestine? If you're not willing to look into that or ask yourself about the narrative change, then I dont think this convo should continue. Even though I could get into early cacs who said there were tribes in America with Hebrew customs but since,outta respect, I dont want to derail OP's thread that he put alot of time into anymore, without his blessing Im done in this thread. Catch me in another one breh
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So you want me to believe in this statement despite the fact that the 3 main world religions and billions of their followers through history (along with historians of the time) all agree that Jesus existed.

If Jesus the man never existed or was “fake” it would’ve been proven by now. We wouldn’t have the gospels (whos words/teaching was it then?) And we would have no Christianity.

Anyways, this isn’t even about Jesus or Christianity but that statement alone throws all your credibility out the window.

I wanna consider the rest of things you say about Egypt but why should I now? :beli:

And you didn’t even answer me about Ethiopia. :hubie:
 

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The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is a large boulder on the side of Hidden Mountain, near Los Lunas, New Mexico, about 35 miles (56 km) south of Albuquerque, that bears a very regular inscription carved into a flat panel.[1] The stone is also known as the Los Lunas Mystery Stone or Commandment Rock. The stone is controversial in that some claim the inscription is Pre-Columbian, and therefore proof of early Semitic contact with the Americas

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And there have been phoenician/egyptian artifacts found in America too the difference is the findings in America are always dismissed/supressed...
 
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The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is a large boulder on the side of Hidden Mountain, near Los Lunas, New Mexico, about 35 miles (56 km) south of Albuquerque, that bears a very regular inscription carved into a flat panel.[1] The stone is also known as the Los Lunas Mystery Stone or Commandment Rock. The stone is controversial in that some claim the inscription is Pre-Columbian, and therefore proof of early Semitic contact with the Americas

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And there have been phoenician/egyptian artifacts found in America too the difference is the findings in America are always dismissed/supressed...
if hydroplate theory is true. Then the Americas would have been attached to the western coast or africa :ehh: imagining flood waters that cover mountains and I can imagine most of the dinosaurs finding their way into strange places too

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why is it that most of these fossil findings are in mass graves? If that is true, could not things move :ohhh::jbhmm:
 

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So you want me to believe in this statement despite the fact that the 3 main world religions and billions of their followers through history (along with historians of the time) all agree that Jesus existed.

Read your bible my guy (and by bible I mean old testament). You're not supposed to be following no one but the God Moses introduced. Anything else (i.e. those three religions)? Fake/false....

If Jesus the man never existed or was “fake” it would’ve been proven by now. We wouldn’t have the gospels (whos words/teaching was it then?) And we would have no Christianity.

Anyways, this isn’t even about Jesus or Christianity but that statement alone throws all your credibility out the window.

No you're just a Jesus worshiper so you take offense at the statement. Go look up dum diversas and see what not accepting Jesus allowed cacs to do to you. He did say a good tree doesnt bear bad fruit

I wanna consider the rest of things you say about Egypt but why should I now? :beli:

And you didn’t even answer me about Ethiopia. :hubie:

All I can do is lay out the information and hope that people take it and do their own research. Not just automatically believe what Im saying.

If people believed the promised land is where you say it is, why was Colombus and Spain looking for it in America when it should have been already known where it was? And why did they think they found it? And why arent we told any of these things? Start with that and go backwards and you'll see that they're hiding what the Americas were before they came.

Another one is there is an Accadia in Babylon right? But did you know there is an Acadia in Canada? And near there, there was a battle called "the battle of the plains of Abraham"? Im not claiming to have all the answers but theres enough there to question the narrative we were given all our lives.
 

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Read your bible my guy (and by bible I mean old testament). You're not supposed to be following no one but the God Moses introduced. Anything else (i.e. those three religions)? Fake/false....



No you're just a Jesus worshiper so you take offense at the statement. Go look up dum diversas and see what not accepting Jesus allowed cacs to do to you. He did say a good tree doesnt bear bad fruit



All I can do is lay out the information and hope that people take it and do their own research. Not just automatically believe what Im saying.

If people believed the promised land is where you say it is, why was Colombus and Spain looking for it in America when it should have been already known where it was? And why did they think they found it? And why arent we told any of these things? Start with that and go backwards and you'll see that they're hiding what the Americas were before they came.

Another one is there is an Accadia in Babylon right? But did you know there is an Acadia in Canada? And near there, there was a battle called "the battle of the plains of Abraham"? Im not claiming to have all the answers but theres enough there to question the narrative we were given all our lives.

I agree with what you’re saying. That has nothing to do with historically Jesus not existing :snoop:

Do you ever wonder why so many religions are based off what/who people think Jesus was and what he said/did

Why is he such a polarizing figure in religion if he never existed? How does he have a greater impact on the world than any man who lived if he never lived.:jbhmm:

This is just common sense.

And if he never existed, who do you attribute the words, stories and teachings written in the Bible to?

The easiest thing to do is say a man never existed than to at least attempt explain/make sense of him and fit him into your own beliefs

Takes zero effort. I can understand if you just don’t believe in him fully like Jews/Muslims but you can’t deny a historical figure even existed without coming off as biased cause I know you’re smarter than that :manny:

You should do your research on Jesus first before worrying about who the lost tribes of Israel are and where the “promised land” is. :banderas:

I understand what you’re getting at though. But if Columbus really thought native Americans were Hebrews he probably wouldn’t of killed them off and took the land..... :umad:
or maybe that was the point all along :patrice:
 

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I agree with what you’re saying. That has nothing to do with historically Jesus not existing :snoop:

Do you ever wonder why so many religions are based off what/who people think Jesus was and what he said/did

Why is he such a polarizing figure in religion if he never existed? How does he have a greater impact on the world than any man who lived if he never lived.:jbhmm:

This is just common sense.

And if he never existed, who do you attribute the words, stories and teachings written in the Bible to?

The easiest thing to do is say a man never existed than to at least attempt explain/make sense of him and fit him into your own beliefs

Takes zero effort. I can understand if you just don’t believe in him fully like Jews/Muslims but you can’t deny a historical figure even existed without coming off as biased cause I know you’re smarter than that :manny:

You should do your research on Jesus first before worrying about who the lost tribes of Israel are and where the “promised land” is. :banderas:

I understand what you’re getting at though. But if Columbus really thought native Americans were Hebrews he probably wouldn’t of killed them off and took the land..... :umad:
or maybe that was the point all along :patrice:
The issue in the world has to do with the Cult of Mithra (Mithra/Dumuzid/Jupiter-Puer) and the Jesus of the Bible (Yeshua Hamashiach)
 

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if hydroplate theory is true. Then the Americas would have been attached to the western coast or africa :ehh: imagining flood waters that cover mountains and I can imagine most of the dinosaurs finding their way into strange places too

morrison-formation-map-two-column.jpg.thumb.768.768.png


why is it that most of these fossil findings are in mass graves? If that is true, could not things move :ohhh::jbhmm:

But the flood would have had to happen way before the creation of the Hebrew/Egyptian artifacts found in America right?
 
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