The Liberal Voter Base Should Really Pay Attention Here. Because They Will Always Lose If They Continue Like This.

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To be clear I agree, they need to go more progressive.
When I say purism I mean when the left attacks other lefties when they disagree with maybe 80% of progressive talking points but disagree with 20%.
See the right will welcome them, while the left will just condemn them and alienate the entire country.
Also I mean such as Cenk when he says he wants to talk to conservatives like Dave Smith where they agree on common ground and working with them, like Bernie Sanders always did!

There's people online that are trying to do some purity test which I think is stupid and counterproductive but you can easily ignore them. You'll allows have extremists

 

[Fillerguy]

Show me where right wing purist have concessions towards moderates.

They voted Trump in on 16.
They voted for Trump again in 20 and despite his lost, Trump received the most votes of any sitting Pres in US history.
They voted him in on 24 in roughly the same numbers as 20.

Trump didn't get more moderate. He didn't change. The right literally tripled down on
But the Left has to moderate to push progressive policy?

You sound stupid.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Show me where right wing purist have concessions towards moderates.

They voted Trump in on 16.
They voted for Trump again in 20 and despite his lost, Trump received the most votes of any sitting Pres in US history.
They voted him in on 24 in roughly the same numbers as 20.

Trump didn't get more moderate. He didn't change. The right literally tripled down on
But the Left has to moderate to push progressive policy?

You sound stupid.

Yes Trump maintained his core base, he also made significant gains among traditionally Democratic-leaning groups. Exit polls showed Trump winning over working-class voters, women, young voters, and those with household incomes under $100,000.

Trump just realigned the entire political map. Democrats have 'no easy path' to fix it.

Donald Trump’s scrambling of long-held narratives over who certain Americans will support has Democrats scrambling for answers.

www.nbcnews.com

Research indicates that most Americans are frustrated with the current political system and don't feel represented by either extreme.

America’s Biggest Divide Is the Superpolitical vs. the Exhausted Majority

Most Americans are frustrated with politics and don't feel represented. Researchers say our political system is to blame.

greatergood.berkeley.edu

Rather than one side giving to the other, finding common ground that involve focusing on shared values and engaging in respectful dialogue to reduce polarization.
We Americans Can Find Common Ground. Here's How It Starts
This approach could be more effective in addressing the concerns of the "exhausted majority" who feel alienated by extreme partisanship on both sides.

And don't forget the Never Trump republicans!!!

I'm not saying reach out and find common ground with insurrectionists.

 

[At30wecashout]

The left needs more purism when the right has the house, senate and oval office???????
What progressive policy will get passed with this approach?
This is self-destructive,

They barely hold the house and senate. Dems did not get washed in the lower races. The country went right because of inflation (and white supremacy but lets keep things grounded.)

Inflation was at 2-something percent BUT that did not undo the years of inflation and greedflation so like most other countries on Earth, the people tossed out the top leadership whether or not the issues were their fault. There are societal issues greater than paycheck-to-paycheck underlining everyone's unease and what does NOT reassure the people at this point is being told things are ok when they are not. One central theme to Kamala's run and Biden's before it was that things were good and we aren't Trump. Objectively, yes, America's economy is doing great. Unfortunately something I learned about in 2020 came to pass called the K-shaped recovery. For people who were doing well before inflation kicked in, they are likely doing better. Everyone else is doing worse, and this is magnified if you are a multi-millionaire or billionaire.

We have not had a true transformative option since FDR and any efforts Democrats have actually had to put something good out there, the last being the original Build-Back-Better, keep getting scuttled either by Republicans or turncoat Democrats like Manchin and Sinema who are now curiously calling themselves independents. There is an appetite for Progressive policies but the old rich Dems and the old cynical dems like Jim Clyburn are in the fukking way.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

I'm in the middle of the debate they haven't mentioned Trans anything yet, not sure if they will.
But a very large portion of the left hates Cenk because he wants to push a populist movement.

And this segment gives many many other examples that have nothing to do with Trans anything.

NOBODY GIVES AF ABOUT TYE TRANS ISSUE. NOBODY GIVES A fukk ENOUGH TO STOP WATCHING CENK BECAUSE OF HIS TURN ON THE TRANS ISSUE.

People are turning on Cenk because he is doing what you are doing. He's the main person to point out the problematic Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer. He's well aware that the folks of their elk are the real problem with Democrats.

Instead, he's going on right wing networks helping them create a false ass narrative about Democrat voters and internet personalities.

There is no "1 way for all" type of shyt going on in the Democrat party, nothing even close to it. He's going on right wing networks parroting false ass right wing talking points to take credit away from people on the left. That's the reason why he is bleeding subscribers. His false ass talking points is the only issue.

 

[Kenny West]

Always strange to see obviously right wing aligned folks telling Liberal what they need to do to win elections as if the voters themselves are the ones running. It's clear some nikkas got called bigots/incels and voted for Trump out of spite.


It's gonna be fun watching folks come to terms with the fact that putting the white supremacist gasbag back into office won't make people think they're aren't pieces of shyt. Trump ain't gonna get you a girlfriend

I also love how this narrative of Democrats respectability politics is emerging while MAGA is completely unhinged for the past 8 years. This time 4 years ago cacs across the country were gearing up to storm the capital and threaten the vice president with lynching if he didn't illegally decertify the election. shyt is a joke

 

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They barely hold the house and senate. Dems did not get washed in the lower races. The country went right because of inflation (and white supremacy but lets keep things grounded.)

Inflation was at 2-something percent BUT that did not undo the years of inflation and greedflation so like most other countries on Earth, the people tossed out the top leadership whether or not the issues were their fault. There are societal issues greater than paycheck-to-paycheck underlining everyone's unease and what does NOT reassure the people at this point is being told things are ok when they are not. One central theme to Kamala's run and Biden's before it was that things were good and we aren't Trump. Objectively, yes, America's economy is doing great. Unfortunately something I learned about in 2020 came to pass called the K-shaped recovery. For people who were doing well before inflation kicked in, they are likely doing better. Everyone else is doing worse, and this is magnified if you are a multi-millionaire or billionaire.

We have not had a true transformative option since FDR and any efforts Democrats have actually had to put something good out there, the last being the original Build-Back-Better, keep getting scuttled either by Republicans or turncoat Democrats like Manchin and Sinema who are now curiously calling themselves independents. There is an appetite for Progressive policies but the old rich Dems and the old cynical dems like Jim Clyburn are in the fukking way.

To add to your last paragraph

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Dems need to cut the moderate shyt out and go progressive.

Housing, healthcare, social security, and wages all have gone to the gutter because of moderates and conservatives prioritize busting it open donors and corporations than working to better the lives of American citizens

This country ain't progressive.

 

[Shadow King]

The left's problem is the literal opposite of what you summarized.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

There's people online that are trying to do some purity test which I think is stupid and counterproductive but you can easily ignore them. You'll allows have extremists

Not to mention the purity shyt usually revolves around things that are fundamentals such as human rights

 

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This country ain't progressive.

People agree with progressive policies 9 times out of 10. People are stuck on following what politicians and political pundits are saying

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Dems need to cut the moderate shyt out and go progressive.

The party has gone more progressive than it's ever been and where has that gotten them? Please enlighten me.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

The party has gone more progressive than it's ever been and where has that gotten them? Please enlighten me.

Bernie would have dominated Trump in 16, they completely killed the progressive movement after that and AIPAC had been buying progressives spots and funding their opponents in primaries.

You off asf fam

 

[RickyDiBiase]

The party has gone more progressive than it's ever been and where has that gotten them? Please enlighten me.

That's the real shytty part

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

The most openly corrupt President of all time wants to fight corruption...ok Cenk, grift on. @Prince.Skeletor I know you on that "enlightened centrist" bullshyt, but you bugging on this.