The Liberal Voter Base Should Really Pay Attention Here. Because They Will Always Lose If They Continue Like This.

[Absolut]

Moving further to the right and adopting their bigotries sure as hell isn't going to work. What do you think people are missing?

Stop worrying about some of the turning point issues of this last election and focus on things that actually matter for 4 years, not just during a 2 month campaign.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

yes; exactly

So why bring up the MMA example?

 

[Xyrax]

The left needs more purism when the right has the house, senate and oval office???????
What progressive policy will get passed with this approach?
This is self-destructive,

Yes.

If the people in a democracy choose fascism over the left because they can only agree with 90% of the left, and not the last 10%, then you get destruction. Thats not on the left, that's on the electorate.

This is one of the pitfalls of democracy. When the people choose, you are stuck with the results; EVEN when they chose poorly.

Ain't giving that shyt the clicks. This country chooses what they choose. Keep it moving.

 

[the cac mamba]

So why bring up the MMA example?

same weird ideology

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Stop worrying about some of the turning point issues of this last election and focus on things that actually matter for 4 years, not just during a 2 month campaign.

Like what exactly?

Would you agree with this? Ignore the targeted parts, it was in response to an idiot.

Spoiler

Democrats don't need to appease bigots; they just need to get better at agenda setting, pushing back against grossly misleading right-wing framing of these issues, and stopping listening to people like you. There are tens of millions of potential voters out there who don't see a reason to turn out. There are also millions of your own voters staying home because they don't feel like their needs are being met. And it isn't because of transgender people. Go talk to those people. Engage with them seriously. Tailor your platform to strongly focus on improving their well-being.

Drop the half-measures and detach yourself from corporate influence. There's no reason we should be talking about striking a balance between being corporate-friendly and serving the public good. The balance should always tip toward the people, every time. That means ditching the consultants who only care about cashing in or climbing the ladder and instead putting real organizers, activists, and everyday people at the center of the strategy. Look at what happened to turn Georgia in 2020. Emulate what people like Stacey Abrams and Fair Fight Action did to achieve that.

Stop chasing after some mythical "swing voter" or "never Trumper" who's more interested in preserving the status quo than progress. The real coalition is out there in the form of workers, young people, marginalized communities, and so on, and they are waiting for a party that speaks to their struggles and actually fights for transformative change. If Democrats don't show they're willing to take bold, unapologetic action for the people, then we're never going to get out of this mess. We gotta start earning people's trust, and we're not going to do that by running away from marginalized groups, just for the sake of political expediency. It's time to stop playing around. You don't fight right-wing extremism with Republican-lite and Centrism.

 

[the cac mamba]

anyone who thinks the left doesn't have an image problem, needs to sit through this entire 3 minute video, by san francisco's "fatphobia expert" . yes, this is real




this insanity from the far left is not sustainable democrats will keep losing, outside of NY and CA. it is what it is

i want to beat republicans. not be whatever the fukk this is

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Yes.

If the people in a democracy choose fascism over the left because they can only agree with 90% of the left, and not the last 10%, then you get destruction. Thats not on the left, that's on the electorate.

This is one of the pitfalls of democracy. When the people choose, you are stuck with the results; EVEN when they chose poorly.

Ain't giving that shyt the clicks. This country chooses what they choose. Keep it moving.

Also only little over half the population even votes. I'm willing to bet that most people that don't vote would lean left when presented with policies stripped from political party labeling

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Because these are constituencies made up of millions of individuals?

This criticism is nonsense tbh. Not too long ago Trump and Republicans politicians were publicly acknowledging Q-anon and it was a hoax cooked up by a ***** nerd in a wheelchair. Or complaining about the Antifa boogeyman. Or Republican voters running up in pizza places with guns trying to catch Hillary Clinton sucking a kids dikk or something.

Why isn't "the goofy shyt" on that side sticking out in your brain as much as some dumb AOC tweet from years ago? Latinx is more cringe than Qanon? It's a stupid point overall.

I find pandering to trannies to be stupid and wasteful as a political strategy. I find bashing them to be equally as stupid and wasteful. However neither side was too "above it" not to partake, it was effective for one side.

It isn't some type of virtue/"wisdom of crowds" that cacs are willing to vote their rights away over pandering of nonsense issues, one way or the other.

Dem messaging is Afraid to lose their donor class.

That, and the GOP is utterly shameless. They and their voters don't care about being tied to insane wingnuttery.

 

[At30wecashout]

Has AOC drafted bills about Latinx?

Or was the Green New Deal about climate, wages and jobs?

You're exposing yourself as a culture war obsessed sheep

This has to be emphasized especially with this constant derailing with talks about LGBTQ people. Congress.GOV and Senate.GOV exist. A clip of someone dancing with an LGBTQ person or talking about LatinX does not define wtf they do.

You have to be internet obsessed to think otherwise because the people bringing that shyt up the most are on the RIGHT. You can have a movie with a 120 minute runtime but if 20 seconds of it show a gay couple it literally becomes the focus. I do not lie, there are entire 'white and frustrated' platforms where woke is the target and they rack up views like a MF.

 

[Ozymandeas]

They barely hold the house and senate. Dems did not get washed in the lower races. The country went right because of inflation (and white supremacy but lets keep things grounded.)

Inflation was at 2-something percent BUT that did not undo the years of inflation and greedflation so like most other countries on Earth, the people tossed out the top leadership whether or not the issues were their fault. There are societal issues greater than paycheck-to-paycheck underlining everyone's unease and what does NOT reassure the people at this point is being told things are ok when they are not. One central theme to Kamala's run and Biden's before it was that things were good and we aren't Trump. Objectively, yes, America's economy is doing great. Unfortunately something I learned about in 2020 came to pass called the K-shaped recovery. For people who were doing well before inflation kicked in, they are likely doing better. Everyone else is doing worse, and this is magnified if you are a multi-millionaire or billionaire.

We have not had a true transformative option since FDR and any efforts Democrats have actually had to put something good out there, the last being the original Build-Back-Better, keep getting scuttled either by Republicans or turncoat Democrats like Manchin and Sinema who are now curiously calling themselves independents. There is an appetite for Progressive policies but the old rich Dems and the old cynical dems like Jim Clyburn are in the fukking way.

Haven't heard this term since my Macroeconomics class back in the day You took me back

 

[MajesticLion]

Zero clicks.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]