The Legacies Of The Cavs,Warriors And...Gil Scott Herion

[FTBS]

There's like an inch of a difference between Westbrook connecting with people's temple with those kicks. What happened when he actually hit Duncan in the balls? Nothing. Did he stop flailing? No. He's not different than Green, people just like and respect him more because he's better at basketball.

It's because I'm objective that I never argued that Green should not have been suspended, or that it was wrong for LeBron to provoke him. It was honestly very smart (and he won me money for doing that so I'm not really mad at him). All I've said is that there were two parties to that incident and that it's not as black & white as you make it seem. Then you said its something that keeps them from being all time great, and I'm saying that's silly.

If the Spurs had the same core and team philosophy I'd hear you but they changed things so much that I can't compare the Spurs in 2007 to the Spurs of seven years later. I mean Kawhi won Finals MVP in 2014 and he was in high school in their last championship.

Swinging at air is swinging at air. When you actually connect it's assault. Russ should have been penalized for the Duncan kick. Since he wasn't he had no reason to stop. I think all that flopping and flailing shyt is dumb and needs to stop. Regularly going for dudes nuts is something different and on whole different level. Multiple instances of going for nuts in a short period of time is very black and white. Bron had nothing to lose there and something to gain and Draymond had everything to lose and nothing to gain. That's pretty black and white. I said that stupid act may have kept them from winning the series and in turn entering the ATG discussion. His bad .

They did have the same core though. Kawhi was added to Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli he didnt' replace them. Getting Kawhi was an all time steal. Once again we are talking teams here. The Spurs team was always in contention and won 5 titles in 16 years. That's some all time shyt. They stopped being all time because they lasted too long?

 

[NYC Rebel]

I don't think Draymond asked for LeBron to put his nuts on the top of his head. And about the kick that sparked everything, it's really unfortunate and he deserved that flagrant, but its an actual regular motion in his game not much different than Westbrook wildly kicking his legs out after threes to draw fouls. If this were a previous era Green isn't suspended for that incident with LeBron in the middle of the NBA Finals, so its hard to compare his actions to lets say the Bad Boy Pistons who would have put themselves in plenty of positions to jeopardize their championship runs.

Multiple seasons of historic play w/ a championship is getting it done over time for me. I hope you took issue with people calling the Spurs an all time great team in 2014 despite choking the previous year and getting bounced in the first round the next year.

There was league and sports wide Ooniim calling the 2014 Spurs an all time great team?! That's a lie. There was no sports wide sentiment saying that.

 

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There was league and sports wide Ooniim calling the 2014 Spurs an all time great team?! That's a lie. There was no sports wide sentiment saying that.

Yeah Spurs 2014 best team ever - Google Search

Idk about league wide, but there were a lot of people were giving them praise on an all time level after they dismantled Miami in that fashion. Claiming that it's the best they've ever been which essentially is a claim for their all time status

Swinging at air is swinging at air. When you actually connect it's assault. Russ should have been penalized for the Duncan kick. Since he wasn't he had no reason to stop. I think all that flopping and flailing shyt is dumb and needs to stop. Regularly going for dudes nuts is something different and on whole different level. Multiple instances of going for nuts in a short period of time is very black and white. Bron had nothing to lose there and something to gain and Draymond had everything to lose and nothing to gain. That's pretty black and white. I said that stupid act may have kept them from winning the series and in turn entering the ATG discussion. His bad .

They did have the same core though. Kawhi was added to Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli he didnt' replace them. Getting Kawhi was an all time steal. Once again we are talking teams here. The Spurs team was always in contention and won 5 titles in 16 years. That's some all time shyt. They stopped being all time because they lasted too long?

I would agree that the flailing stuff doesn't really have a place in the league. I also don't think any of that was intentional and I don't think Green went for LeBron's or Adams nuts on purpose. The latter because I've seen him make that motion 100's of times. Just unfortunate that it happened to hurt someone and I'm sure he's contrite about it all.

Kawhi became better than Parker and Manu in 2014. If we're talking teams, then adding a player of that magnitude and changing the philosophy changes the team. You can't group the Spurs of 2014 to the Spurs of mid 2000's back when Duncan was a regular MVP candidate, Manu a borderline superstar and Parker in the conversation for best PG in the league all assuming an enormous workload for the offense as compared to then where it's a pure team oriented approach. I would say the Spurs in that total stretch of five championships are an all time great franchise. Team you should separate eras for them. Like the first title they won was on the back of a young Duncan and older (but still incredibly dominant defensively) D Rob, I'm not gonna group that with the next they won in '03 even though Duncan/Robinson were still there b/c Parker/Manu/Bowen/S Jax entered the fold and were major contributors.

 

[FTBS]

Yeah Spurs 2014 best team ever - Google Search

Idk about league wide, but there were a lot of people were giving them praise on an all time level after they dismantled Miami in that fashion. Claiming that it's the best they've ever been which essentially is a claim for their all time status



I would agree that the flailing stuff doesn't really have a place in the league. I also don't think any of that was intentional and I don't think Green went for LeBron's or Adams nuts on purpose. The latter because I've seen him make that motion 100's of times. Just unfortunate that it happened to hurt someone and I'm sure he's contrite about it all.

Kawhi became better than Parker and Manu in 2014. If we're talking teams, then adding a player of that magnitude and changing the philosophy changes the team. You can't group the Spurs of 2014 to the Spurs of mid 2000's back when Duncan was a regular MVP candidate, Manu a borderline superstar and Parker in the conversation for best PG in the league all assuming an enormous workload for the offense as compared to then where it's a pure team oriented approach. I would say the Spurs in that total stretch of five championships are an all time great franchise. Team you should separate eras for them. Like the first title they won was on the back of a young Duncan and older (but still incredibly dominant defensively) D Rob, I'm not gonna group that with the next they won in '03 even though Duncan/Robinson were still there b/c Parker/Manu/Bowen/S Jax entered the fold and were major contributors.

Breh you don't make a mistake and hit that many nikkas in the nuts.

How has Kawhi done since those guys fell off for real and he's expected to carry the load rather than showing out as a 3rd/4th option the other team is gaming planning for as much? Hasn't even made it out of the 2nd round after going to the CF his first three years including back to back Finals. Regardless of all that it's all still the Spurs. Remaining a contender year in and year out over 2 decades with 5 chips in that span is some truly special, all time shyt.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yeah Spurs 2014 best team ever - Google Search

Idk about league wide, but there were a lot of people were giving them praise on an all time level after they dismantled Miami in that fashion. Claiming that it's the best they've ever been which essentially is a claim for their all time status



I would agree that the flailing stuff doesn't really have a place in the league. I also don't think any of that was intentional and I don't think Green went for LeBron's or Adams nuts on purpose. The latter because I've seen him make that motion 100's of times. Just unfortunate that it happened to hurt someone and I'm sure he's contrite about it all.

Kawhi became better than Parker and Manu in 2014. If we're talking teams, then adding a player of that magnitude and changing the philosophy changes the team. You can't group the Spurs of 2014 to the Spurs of mid 2000's back when Duncan was a regular MVP candidate, Manu a borderline superstar and Parker in the conversation for best PG in the league all assuming an enormous workload for the offense as compared to then where it's a pure team oriented approach. I would say the Spurs in that total stretch of five championships are an all time great franchise. Team you should separate eras for them. Like the first title they won was on the back of a young Duncan and older (but still incredibly dominant defensively) D Rob, I'm not gonna group that with the next they won in '03 even though Duncan/Robinson were still there b/c Parker/Manu/Bowen/S Jax entered the fold and were major contributors.

You can find people eating shyt on the Internet...doesn't mean it's a popular thing. There was no league wide sentiment around that belief

 

[Consumed]

You can find people eating shyt on the Internet...doesn't mean it's a popular thing. There was no league wide sentiment around that belief

but it was popular. Lot of people considered that to be the best version of the Pop Spurs

Breh you don't make a mistake and hit that many nikkas in the nuts.

How has Kawhi done since those guys fell off for real and he's expected to carry the load rather than showing out as a 3rd/4th option the other team is gaming planning for as much? Hasn't even made it out of the 2nd round after going to the CF his first three years including back to back Finals. Regardless of all that it's all still the Spurs. Remaining a contender year in and year out over 2 decades with 5 chips in that span is some truly special, all time shyt.

Well it happened lol. I'm not really absolving him for it and I accept what ultimately happened, but the intent I don't think was to injure those guys or to hit those specific areas.

Kawhi has gotten better pretty much every year of his career. Last year was his best, but he's not 2000's Duncan or Manu level offensively so no he hasn't been able to get them further. Yeah they are a special franchise with a lot of great years

 

[FTBS]

but it was popular. Lot of people considered that to be the best version of the Pop Spurs



Well it happened lol. I'm not really absolving him for it and I accept what ultimately happened, but the intent I don't think was to injure those guys or to hit those specific areas.

Kawhi has gotten better pretty much every year of his career. Last year was his best, but he's not 2000's Duncan or Manu level offensively so no he hasn't been able to get them further. Yeah they are a special franchise with a lot of great years

at the immediate contradiction in the bolded. Ol' "No offense but you ain't shyt" ass nikka

 

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at the immediate contradiction in the bolded. Ol' "No offense but you ain't shyt" ass nikka

I said I'm not absolving him from the punishment. I accepted that, but the intent I disagree with

I don't know why you're having such a hard time with this lol

 

[FTBS]

I said I'm not absolving him from the punishment. I accepted that, but the intent I disagree with

I don't know why you're having such a hard time with this lol

So he didn't realize Bron's nuts were in between his legs when he clearly intentionally threw his elbow in that direction when he walked over him? I am having a rather easy time because I am keeping it a buck and calling a spade a spade thusly I don't have to defend the indefensible and spin obvious shyt.

 

[Big Boss]

It's Green's fault he got suspended. That was purely self-inflicted. Warriors had their big 3 in tact for games 6 and 7 and they shyt the bed both games (save Draymond in game 7). All of a sudden basketball is about the whole roster . No it's top heavy and it's all about your top guys. If the top guys play like top guys they win easy.

Warriors body of work is one chip. Suns did all that other shyt 10 years ago minus the defense part. But they won no chips so they aren't even in consideration for ATG status. All time greatness is about chips, not great regular seasons.

Facts

 

[Consumed]

So he didn't realize Bron's nuts were in between his legs when he clearly intentionally threw his elbow in that direction when he walked over him? I am not having a rather easy time because I am keeping it a buck and calling a spade a spade thusly I don't have to defend the indefensible and spin obvious shyt.

No I don't think he had the prescense of mind to know exactly where LeBrons nuts were after reacting to being stepped over and getting up off the ground. He was not looking in his direction

It's whatever if you think it was intentional of obvious, don't see it that way

 

[FTBS]

No I don't think he had the prescense of mind to know exactly where LeBrons nuts were after reacting to being stepped over and getting up off the ground. He was not looking in his direction

It's whatever if you think it was intentional of obvious, don't see it that way

I think every male human is aware what is between the legs of the male human. nikka has numerous other nut touching incidents. At a certain point it just can't be an accident.

 

[Consumed]

I think every male human is aware what is between the legs of the male human. nikka has numerous other nut touching incidents. At a certain point it just can't be an accident.

It can be if you regularly kick your leg out every game and get stepped over by a dude while trying to get up

Plus after years of following him Green has never struck me as a guy who'd sink to those measures on purpose, so I see reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[FTBS]

It can be if you regularly kick your leg out every game and get stepped over by a dude while trying to get up

Plus after years of following him Green has never struck me as a guy who'd sink to those measures on purpose, so I see reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Don't know about you but once I kicked a nikka in the nuts I would chill. I would certainly chill after accruing flagrants knowing that getting to a certain number would lead to suspension.

Yeah I am sure you know him and his intentions real well. Steve Kerr didn't even believe the defense he was giving him that's why he was shaking and fidgeting like he was high when spouting that BS. How many guys has Bron lobbied to get suspended? You have not problem riding with that. Dray kicks, grabs, elbows multiple nikkas in the nuts and he gets benefit of the doubt .

 

[Consumed]

Don't know about you but once I kicked a nikka in the nuts I would chill. I would certainly chill after accruing flagrants knowing that getting to a certain number would lead to suspension.

Yeah I am sure you know him and his intentions real well. Steve Kerr didn't even believe the defense he was giving him that's why he was shaking like he was high when spouting that BS. How many guys has Bron lobbied to get suspended? You have not problem riding with that. Dray kicks, grabs, elbows multiple nikkas in the nuts and he gets benefit of the doubt .

When did I say LeBron lobbied to get him suspended....

If you're gonna make stuff up I don't see the point in having a discussion. We aren't even talking about basketball now and you're ignoring what I say.