The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

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you can say that about all western games, throw the witcher 3 in that mix too

all that shyt is overrated hype pseudo artistic babble, with mediocre to terrible gameplay, and people act like its the best thing ever

whites have inferiority complex because they can't make games as good as the japanese, so they have to overrate all this trash like horizon zero dawn, last of us, uncharted, witcher 3, red dead redemption, GTA, and all that shyt is trash, ps2 level gameplay mechanics

what are some good japanese games that you’ve played?

I’m sincerely asking bcuz I do agree that the gameplay for a lot of the games you mentioned are overrated (wouldn’t go so far as to say trash) but yes there have been very little improvements as far as gameplay is concerned (especially this gen) in lieu of better graphics and “better” writing...favorite game this gen for me was easily BOTW...some will argue it’s comparative to some of the games you mentioned but it does a lot of little things much better imo
 

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Who here thought the game wouldn't sell? the point is the reception it's getting hell mass effect 3 sold but how did that follow up do.:jbhmm:

Although I'm certain this is the last we will see of this franchise so it matters not.
Inquisition sold well according to EA but Andromeda's sales had to do with the negative press surrounding its release.

what are some good japanese games that you’ve played?
Dark Souls, Devil May Cry, etc.
 

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Inquisition sold well according to EA but Andromeda's sales had to do with the negative press surrounding its release.


Dark Souls, Devil May Cry, etc.

I used to play the shyt out of DMC games on PS2/PS3...after a while tho I felt the series got too repetitive
 

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Okay this made me :russ:
 

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I'm glad I played this to completion on an internet blackout. I must say the story is not as bad or contrived as anyone is saying imo.

I really enjoyed this game. Things are a lot more nuanced than anyone is explaining, much too cursory of a view. I will also say I no lifed this game for 3 days straight to only just beat it this afternoon. How many people criticizing the story beat it or just read about what happens?

I thought it was interesting to see that both sides of the fence have similar motivations and justifications for committing horrible acts. Abby and Ellie essentially do the same stuff for the same reasons and both discover the savages it has made them.

Even the end I understood. Given all that has happened and all they have both been through. Realizing it won't bring Joel back and seeing Lev in the boat knowing you're essentially sentencing him to death if you kill Abby. They both realized they don't like the monsters they've become and recognized themselves in each other.

People acting like Abby's plot is unjustified I thought it was interesting. Here's an innocent young girl who's father was murdered by the hands of Joel. Seeking revenge like anyone would. She has friends and a social life and all the moral justifications of anyone in this world to go find Joel and kill him.

It's a bit contrived but I enjoy the whole 'who's really the bad guy' motifs in stories. I like observing how reality is dependent on perspective and this game delves into that.

It seems most peoples criticisms are very cursory "i liked joel wtf" "abby sucks fukk this game" "gay people? smh"

I just enjoyed how it shines a light on how everyone will find a way to morally justify their evil. Every side had plenty of good reason to do what they did and they were stuck in a perpetual cycle of retribution. I liked how it showed how tribalism may evolve in a post apocalyptic world.

I get people not enjoying it but I think there was a lot of great stuff here and the people being upset seem to be like on a campaign for their voices to be heard or some shyt.

It seems many decided they won't like this game before it even came out because of leaks. Which to me is amazing how many people read the leaks. I was a huge fan of the first game heard there was leaks and avoided TLOU 2 talk online all the way til release.

Meanwhile other supposed mega fans just readily read the leaks? Just waiting to be mad when the game drops?

There are valid criticisms of the game, I just think a lot I've read aren't very fleshed out and can be countered or explained easily.

It's like people are mad the game isn't straight fan service. What happens is perfectly logical within the world they live.

Also Abby is not a tranny.
 

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what are some good japanese games that you’ve played?

I’m sincerely asking bcuz I do agree that the gameplay for a lot of the games you mentioned are overrated (wouldn’t go so far as to say trash) but yes there have been very little improvements as far as gameplay is concerned (especially this gen) in lieu of better graphics and “better” writing...favorite game this gen for me was easily BOTW...some will argue it’s comparative to some of the games you mentioned but it does a lot of little things much better imo
Does sekiro count?
 
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