The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread

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I have no problems with her killing joel or the way he died. The biggest issue is being forced to play the rest of the game as her. Playing the game as a character you hate will potentially fukk the experience up for alot of people invested in these characters.

devil’s advocate but what if the story and gameplay are framed to make you empathize w/ her character maybe even like her character after initially hating her
 

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devil’s advocate but what if the story and gameplay are framed to make you empathize w/ her character maybe even like her character after initially hating her
It’s naughty dog so I’m assuming that’s what they’re going with :yeshrug:
 

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Ok but look at it from here eyes, you came thru and killed everybody in the lab to save some goofy bytch, they were innocent in all of this...

Now who is the monster...
The fire fly faction was not innocent and with the revelation of other immune people being out there, they didnt really need Ellie. She was basically a scientist project to them, but was like a second daughter to Joel.

Nothing I've seen or read from any leaked videos or plot summaries gives me a good reason to sympathize with Abby, she's just angry and willing to murder in the most brutal ways possible. Joel was doing what he had to do, Abby is bringing slow and painful deaths to favorite characters and willing to do sadistic shyt in pursuit of revenge. Joel never seemed as cold hearted as Abby does in these leaks. It felt like everything he did was simply to survive while Abby does sadistic shyt because she enjoys the pain it brings.


Not having ellie as the protagonist throughout the entire game may end up being a grave mistake.
 

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The fire fly faction was not innocent and with the revelation of other immune people being out there, they didnt really need Ellie. She was basically a scientist project to them, but was like a second daughter to Joel.

Nothing I've seen or read from any leaked videos or plot summaries gives me a good reason to sympathize with Abby, she's just angry and willing to murder in the most brutal ways possible. Joel was doing what he had to do, Abby is bringing slow and painful deaths to favorite characters and willing to do sadistic shyt in pursuit of revenge. Joel never seemed as cold hearted as Abby does in these leaks. It felt like everything he did was simply to survive while Abby does sadistic shyt because she enjoys the pain it brings.


Not having ellie as the protagonist throughout the entire game may end up being a grave mistake.


There are still missing links ....

I’m just saying she doesn’t see it that way


Just play the game man :russ:
 

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As in you finish as the new chick?

they could of legit had this EXACT same plot with her killing Joel for the same reasons, but still have you play as Ellie as the whole game tracking her in Revenge for Joel, not sure why they had to be extra with it and make you play as Joel’s Murderer, “subvert expectations” culture keeps fukking with all my favourite media :francis:
shyt sounds like DLC, no lie.
 

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It’s naughty dog so I’m assuming that’s what they’re going with :yeshrug:

that’s my point and it’d be a great feat if they can pull it off...I’m pretty sure that was a challenge they wanted so I’m surprised to see some folks writing off the story so soon...granted the impact would’ve been stronger if it happened in the moment tho...w/ dudes having access to the spoilers some are gonna be adamant about not giving the new character a chance and force themselves to remain hateful of her...truth be told the story has me interested in checking the game out...it’s the gameplay that I’m not looking forward to
 

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There was also a "leak" that there are more immune people, but, I can't find that, again.

But, that leak was also saying that Abby was Ellie's mother or something.

I'm beliving inly the leaks with video.
They can sht on ND all they want, if they dont use their content that isn't grounds for a copyright strike.

The problem is sony and ND have been flagging youtubers for sharing negative opinions about the game regardless.
It's not that simple

They flagging ppl posting the leaks

Companies already try their luck in challenging fair use

And some of these dudes claiming innocence 2 drum up drama
 

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that’s my point and it’d be a great feat if they can pull it off...I’m pretty sure that was a challenge they wanted so I’m surprised to see some folks writing off the story so soon...granted the impact would’ve been stronger if it happened in the moment tho...w/ dudes having access to the spoilers some are gonna be adamant about not giving the new character a chance and force themselves to remain hateful of her
I agree, I’m not if I sound dumb or not tho for disliking the idea of having to play as a manly masculine looking female tho lol
 

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I agree, I’m not if I sound dumb or not tho for disliking the idea of having to play as a manly masculine looking female tho lol

doesn’t bother me per se...but if she’s a tranny then naw I’m definitely not playing that shyt lmao...folks can call it ignorant or w/e...that’s fine I can live w/ that
 

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doesn’t bother me per se...but if she’s a tranny then naw I’m definitely not playing that shyt lmao...folks can call it ignorant or w/e...that’s fine I can live w/ that
Nah she’s not a tranny i think dudes are just joking/overreacting because she’s an overly butch looking bytch..

they coulda at least made a feminine semi attractive looking new protagonist tho, when I picture Abi all I can think of is Patty from hey Arnold

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