The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Discussion Thread
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Sonny Corinthos
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"Joelytes, it is time for the annual pilgrimage to Jackson, to honor our fallen fatherwe must also figure out how to stop Abby from getting in the sequel. Be sure to bring drafts of your death threats for us to review"
I rock(ed) with Joel but goddamnhonestly I've come to fw Abby and Ellie more
just finished the Abby story a second time definitely enjoyed her character a lot more , kinda wish it was longer
Watching the credits right now.
Game overall was amazing but definitely had it moments where it dragged a bit IMO.
The story was fantastic even though I personally felt like being reminded that Ellie was gay every 30 minutes was forced and heavy handed. Putting in the transgender kid was predictable as well. Honestly, I thought they were going to say Abby was transgender as well.
The overall theme of the story was done very well. It really reminded me of my favorite book “The Counte of Monte Cristo”. In the end, revenge isn’t the answer and doesn’t provide the resolution you wish it would. They did an awesome job showing the cruelty of humans and I appreciate the risks they took across the board. Great game. Not perfect. But I’m very happy with it and feel like it raised the bar for mature story telling.
Game overall was amazing but definitely had it moments where it dragged a bit IMO.
The story was fantastic even though I personally felt like being reminded that Ellie was gay every 30 minutes was forced and heavy handed. Putting in the transgender kid was predictable as well. Honestly, I thought they were going to say Abby was transgender as well.
The overall theme of the story was done very well. It really reminded me of my favorite book “The Counte of Monte Cristo”. In the end, revenge isn’t the answer and doesn’t provide the resolution you wish it would. They did an awesome job showing the cruelty of humans and I appreciate the risks they took across the board. Great game. Not perfect. But I’m very happy with it and feel like it raised the bar for mature story telling.
By the end of the theatre scrap, I was ready for both of them to move on. I found it fascinating how I began the game in the same mindframe as Ellie at the start (wanting blood & vengeance) but ended in the same mindframe as Abby at the climax (just over it all.) They pulled a role reversal entirely, and I felt complete opposite emotions about the pair at the end as I did at the beginning. Ellie became the monster she thought she was hunting after losing Joel ("If I were to lose you, I'd surely lose myself.") She realizes this and lets him go. The writing wasn't perfect, but I thought it was beautiful. Great game.
Something I read recently that I didn’t pick up on myself when playing, when you return to the farm at the end, it’s impossible to have Ellie look at herself in any of the bathroom mirrors as she looks away
Another hint at the ending. if you check her journal before going to the guitar, you will see there are drawings of Dina and Joel.
I wish there was more dialogue between Ellie and Abby. Did Ellie ever learn who Abby was and who her father was? 
Brandeezy
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Here's one of the early drafts
No but they didn't have any opportunities to talk outside of the beach. Ellie's PTSD pretty much ruined a potential convo tho
I wish there was more dialogue between Ellie and Abby. Did Ellie ever learn who Abby was and who her father was?
No but they didn't have any opportunities to talk outside of the beach. Ellie's PTSD pretty much ruined a potential convo tho
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They made Ellie too stupid to ask. That could've saved her fingers.I wish there was more dialogue between Ellie and Abby. Did Ellie ever learn who Abby was and who her father was?
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They missed out on that extra layer of guilt that would add to Ellie. She wouldve felt directly responsible for getting Abby’s pops killed and that would’ve made her decision at the end make more sense. Ellie doesnt seem mature enough to come to the conclusion that revenge isnt worth it without killing Abby. She has murdered hundreds of strangers and dogs and damn near the entire city of Seattle just to avenge one man. She even kills an entire new group “the rattlers” trying to get to Abby. Theres no connection between them to make me believe that Ellie would have a sudden change of heart especially when Abby just keeps giving her more reasons to be dead. She murks Joel and Jessie. Cripples Tommy for life and causes brain damage. Slams Dina’s face into the ground before nearly slicing her throat until Lev stopped her. Breaks Ellie’s arm the first time beating her senseless and then bites two of her fingers off which causes Ellie to lose the one connection she had to Joel in the guitar. It wouldve been dope as the gamer to go through hell and back kill Abby and then realize it isnt bringing Joel back, it doesnt repair her relationship with him before he died,Jessie lost his life, Dina and the family left you and you come back and cant even play the guitar and also lost another part of Joel again. Was it worth it? Not saying Ellie couldnt or wouldnt come to the decision she did in the end it just didnt feel like she had a natural progression to that decision. Especially since we only play with her for half the game.
I always thought it was implied she found this out whole torturing Nora, I could be wrong tho
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Peep how she disarmed with the knife. That's a nice addition
