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I have never been so emotionally drained from a game
I wanna give it a run through again but da reason you stated is why I've held off.
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The Last of Us Part II | PS4 | June 19th (NO OPEN SPOILERS)
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I wanna give it a run through again but da reason you stated is why I've held off.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
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yep. it's my favorite one, also.Have been waiting so long for that Take on Me cover
dap and rep this man
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Deep_Black_Conscious
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I'm replaying to get the rest of the upgrades and to have explosive arrows for encounter selection
Then I plan taking a couple months break until the director's cut comes with the ps5 graphics
Replaying this game has reminded me how GOAT my experience was until the ending no one can deny the experience alone is 10/10
I think it will be TLOU2 = TLOU1 or TLOU2 being better if the ending can grow on me since the story is a lot more complex and ambitious with better gameplay
TLOU2 is the game of thrones of gaming (the first GOAT seasons not the last shytshow seasons
)The game is a 10/10 like the first game but the story requires the player to do more work
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Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
I'm replaying to get the rest of the upgrades and to have explosive arrows for encounter selection
Then take a couple months break until the director's cut comes with the ps5 graphics
Replaying this game has reminded how GOAT the experience is no one can deny the experience alone is 10/10
I think it will be TLOU1 = TLOU2 or even TLOU2 being better if the ending can grow on me since the story is a lot more complex and ambitious
TLOU2 is the game of thrones of gaming (the first GOAT seasons not the last shytshow seasons
The game is a 10/10 like the first game but the story requires the player to do a lot more work
The girlfriend reviews said it best, the game challenges you outside of gameplay, it challenges you to show actual empathy in order to fully enjoy it. Some people hold onto grudges for their entire lives, those are probably the type of people that really hate the game.
I’m someone that really doesn’t hold onto resentment for people too long, even less long for fictional characters. Aside from Joffrey. fukk that kid
Deep_Black_Conscious
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I think only empathy in the form of understanding the motivations or reasons behind someone's actions is required
This is why I am appreciating the game's story more and more over time like how I started appreciating the ending of TLOU1's story (I didn't like it at first) over time
You don't even have to like Abby but you can still understand why she did what she did if you can understand motive
It's not about holding grudges IMO
It's about being more aware about how we deal with pain and trauma and being aware that you have it instead of hiding it away in your subconscious like Ellie did
The game is social commentary on the hidden motive behind the majority of people's actions and how we nonchalantly go about handling it e.g. creating entire wars and spreading ultra violence
Even after Abby got rid of the person that caused her pain and trauma, it didn't remove it she simply applied it to other people in the form of hate and when Ellie finally caught up to the person who caused her pain and trauma, it was only then she realized she was already in pain before she encountered Abby
Edit: I agree fukk Joffrey
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Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Ezekiel 25:17
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When is the multi-player coming?
Deep_Black_Conscious
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The story is on par or better than the last game
It goes beyond appealing to the audience and instead focuses on abstraction and consequence e.g. game of thrones
The ending is what ruined it for me before I reframed the story in a way that makes more sense than just revenge after revenge after revenge then no revenge
I was ready to say TLOU2 story was on par or better than the last game until the ending, which led to disappointment because I wanted the sequel to be better in every way including story
It is but the ending is what made me rate the story below TLOU1, since I thought it was quality before that even with the Joel moment because it was expected and I watched game of thrones
Was still a 10/10 game to me outside of that even though the ending made me harsh towards other things
That ending was so dumb to me when I first experienced I wondered if I could even rate the story as great since the ending ruined the entire story for me
However, reading people's old comments a lot of us focused on the themes of revenge, forgiveness, and breaking cycles
From that perspective the ending is still dumb as fukk
But, like I described in my earlier post, revenge and hate are just front themes for the many layers of what the story really represents behind those themes
At least that is how I make sense of the ending, which also adds a lot of other very deep meanings to the story as well as TLOU1 because that is the perspective I need for that ending to make sense
If that's the case TLOU2 > TLOU1 for me because TLOU2's gameplay/combat is a level above the last game and the story is the same quality but a different experience. Felt like I played an interactive major hollywood movie after my first playthrough and it was a completely different experience to the last game. It feels as if the last game was a warm up or calm before the storm for the fukkery of violence and chaos the 2nd game was. I'm mad I didn't get to play my first playthrough on the CX or now at 60fps on the PS5. TLOU2 is now my favorite GOTG game alongside RDR2 once I took the time to understand the ending beyond revenge, cycles, and forgiveness
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Deep_Black_Conscious
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ND is going to destroy gaming when they release Savage StarlightDepending on the next game you play. TLOU2 may have already ruined it's experience for you. For example, animations in other games just seems so clunky to me now after finishing TLOU2. And i miss the atmosphere, and surviving in TLOU2's universe. ND gotta drop Factions 2, some DLC, or something. I'm going through withdrawals
Anything less than a TLOU2 experience or levels above that will be a disappointment since they're referencing everywhere for years now even in the new HBO show advertisement
My only complaint all this time later still is
I had no problems with Joel dying and I was wondering when he was going to go and man the game did not waste time
Game of thrones moment for me in a good way
However,
I feel Joel and Tommy would have questioned why a group of people just happen to be posted outside Jackson during a snow storm, at least going by their behavior from the last game. That's not something that goes away especially since they have a military background , had to survive together during their ruthless days which means meeting people who you least suspect would be capable of doing something, and intuition stays with you. Even after saving Abby that's something I would think Tommy and Joel would be thinking. Then Tommy proceeds to give his name and Joel', even though it is not that MANY years after the hospital incident. Again after the first piece of information wondering why these group of people are with this unusually brolic girl I would assume Tommy would be more hesitant giving his or Joel's real name or any other information. He even tells them where their main base is "yeah Jackson right down there group of people who are conveniently posted right above Jackson" and he doesn't know who these people are.
There are other questions they would have asked themselves and Abby's group
But, maybe they were simply caught slipping who would have thought they were in danger after saving Abby's life?It's the world of TLOU so saving someone's life doesn't mean shyt and Joel and Tommy know this. However it's not a big deal and not as big of a deal as people make it seem because they're just mad Joel died and how he died
It became a problem for me later along with other elements of the story after the ending at first, since I didn't like the ending even with the abstractions behind it. The ending pretty much made everything pointless to me and I began to view the game as nihilistic fukkery. Once I experienced that ending it became easy to critique other things in the story and the whole thing fell apart for me but I still appreciated the GOAT ride so I couldn't rate the story too harshly since it's still quality in terms of journey. However, it grew on me after I reframed the game from a different perspective beyond revenge, forgiveness, and ending. Outside of the ending the story is fine despite minor complaints that don't really take away from the score but that ending nearly destroyed the entire story and almost the experience after my first playthrough after ending the ending to the whole. Though the experience was still incredible it simply did not make sense based the cover themes behind the game alone which made the entire journey not make sense.
My score for the story is about the same or higher than the last game now once I understood the story from a different perspective so I could no longer be bothered by the ending
Helped make the game go from about 9/10 to a 10/10 for me now that the ending is no longer dumb as fukk
Game of thrones moment for me in a good way
However,
I feel Joel and Tommy would have questioned why a group of people just happen to be posted outside Jackson during a snow storm, at least going by their behavior from the last game. That's not something that goes away especially since they have a military background , had to survive together during their ruthless days which means meeting people who you least suspect would be capable of doing something, and intuition stays with you. Even after saving Abby that's something I would think Tommy and Joel would be thinking. Then Tommy proceeds to give his name and Joel', even though it is not that MANY years after the hospital incident. Again after the first piece of information wondering why these group of people are with this unusually brolic girl I would assume Tommy would be more hesitant giving his or Joel's real name or any other information. He even tells them where their main base is "yeah Jackson right down there group of people who are conveniently posted right above Jackson" and he doesn't know who these people are
.There are other questions they would have asked themselves and Abby's group
But, maybe they were simply caught slipping who would have thought they were in danger after saving Abby's life?
It's the world of TLOU so saving someone's life doesn't mean shyt and Joel and Tommy know this. However it's not a big deal and not as big of a deal as people make it seem because they're just mad Joel died and how he diedIt became a problem for me later along with other elements of the story after the ending at first, since I didn't like the ending even with the abstractions behind it. The ending pretty much made everything pointless to me and I began to view the game as nihilistic fukkery. Once I experienced that ending it became easy to critique other things in the story and the whole thing fell apart for me but I still appreciated the GOAT ride so I couldn't rate the story too harshly since it's still quality in terms of journey. However, it grew on me after I reframed the game from a different perspective beyond revenge, forgiveness, and ending. Outside of the ending the story is fine despite minor complaints that don't really take away from the score but that ending nearly destroyed the entire story and almost the experience after my first playthrough after ending the ending to the whole. Though the experience was still incredible it simply did not make sense based the cover themes behind the game alone which made the entire journey not make sense.
My score for the story is about the same or higher than the last game now once I understood the story from a different perspective so I could no longer be bothered by the ending
Helped make the game go from about 9/10 to a 10/10 for me now that the ending is no longer dumb as fukk
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The story is on par or better than the last game
It goes beyond appealing to the audience and instead focuses on abstraction and consequence e.g. game of thrones
The ending is what ruined it for me before I reframed the story in a way that makes more sense than just revenge after revenge after revenge then no revenge
I was ready to say TLOU2 story was on par or better than the last game until the ending, which led to disappointment because I wanted the sequel to be better in every way including story
It is but the ending is what made me rate the story below TLOU1, since I thought it was quality before that even with the Joel moment because it was expected and I watched game of thrones
Was still a 10/10 game to me outside of that even though the ending made me harsh towards other things
That ending was so dumb to me when I first experienced I wondered if I could even rate the story as great since the ending ruined the entire story for me
However, reading people's old comments a lot of us focused on the themes of revenge, forgiveness, and breaking cycles
From that perspective the ending is still dumb as fukk
But, like I described in my earlier post, revenge and hate are just front themes for the many layers of what the story really represents behind those themes
At least that is how I make sense of the ending, which also adds a lot of other very deep meanings to the story as well as TLOU1 because that is the perspective I need for that ending to make sense
If that's the case TLOU2 > TLOU1 for me because TLOU2's gameplay/combat is a level above the last game and the story is the same quality but a different experience. Felt like I played an interactive major hollywood movie after my first playthrough and it was a completely different experience to the last game. It feels as if the last game was a warm up or calm before the storm for the fukkery of violence and chaos the 2nd game was. I'm mad I didn't get to play my first playthrough on the CX or now at 60fps on the PS5. TLOU2 is now my favorite GOTG game alongside RDR2 once I took the time to understand the ending beyond revenge, cycles, and forgiveness
You’re stupid, they shouldn’t have killed Joel, Abby is a man arm, and they shoulda killed each other at the end because I wanted revenge for Papa Joel
