The Lancet: Black women in the USA were murdered six times more often than White women between 1999 and 2020, state-level analysis indicates

[WIA20XX]

You're here to point the finger at Black Women while offering nothing.

Glad to see you've calmed down.

I asked for what you think would work, because current system has the vast majority of us aren't beating women.

It's not the norm in our community to backhand women for getting out of pocket.

Them days never existed.

That's never been the norm.

It's never been accepted for most Black men to beat their Black wives in this country.

Does domestic violence happen? Yes.
Does it happen more often than we all would like? Yes.

Is it the norm? No.

It's not something most Black men engage in.
It's not something most Black men see on a day to day basis.

In this respect, the culture, the society, and the laws are working.

So the onus is really on you to tell us how to deal with that 0.01% of times where this is an issue.

How do you deal with the edge case?

 

[Voice of Reason]

Why would You neg me and call me Tether when I live in Great Britain

Did my tone of questioning trigger you?

Would you have hut me if I was in your Vicinity?

Your voice isn't very reasonable today Sir

You are correct I should not have negged you

But I stand by my original point

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Black women in America commit more statutory rape in schools?

Black women in America commit more infanticide?

Black women in America commit more child trafficking crimes?

Black women in America commit more paedophilia?

Not disputing you as I live in Great Britain, would just like to know the source of your facts please so I can gain better perspective.

My observation is Black women in general physically beat their children more which is defo a form of abuse, I dont whoop my children. But the other forms of chilld abuse I would not have thought Black women in America were the forerunners

Hello, Hi

I am not American but I have an American niece

Can I get some statistics that correlate please

 

[Brolic]

A guy at the job's sister and her daughter were killed by her boyfriend in a murder/suicide. He wasn't a thug or criminal, just a poorly-raised, weak, and cowardly man. I've got homegirls who were in abusive relationships with guys who made great money while working in an air conditioned office every day.

Boys like that come in all shapes, sizes, and socioeconomic levels. DV is not reserved for the poor pookies and thugs of our community. Any woman will tell you so.

We as black men have an obligation to protect our Black Women. They need us.

Of course anyone could do it. White collar white men kill/abuse their wives too.

I’m just saying a broke criminal or street nikka is more likely to commit domestic violence. Unfortunately that’s the demographic younger black women tend to gravitate toward.

In developed countries, domestic violence is least common in families with a moderate to high socioeconomic status and higher levels of education and is most common for poorer women. Higher levels of education in both spouse shave been reported as a protective factor against violence

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The comparison of socioeconomic status, perceived social support and mental status in women of reproductive age experiencing and not experiencing domestic violence in Iran - PMC

Given the significant health effects of domestic violence against women, the present study was conducted in 2016, in Tehran, Iran in order to compare the socioeconomic status, perceived social support and mental status in women of reproductive age ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Kasgoinjail]

You are correct I should not have negged you

But I stand by my original point

Nah bruv

Negs and names 'Tether' do not affect me when I'm trying to genuinely discuss a crucial topic with what I presume to be adults.

Iv been raped
Iv experienced DV

Yet I still openly express my love and attraction to Black men and Black men only, so there's going to have to be much healing taking place so that ;
A) I don't end up dead at the hands of man in the long run

B) Our men don't end up in jail or dead in the form of retribution from the victims families


Just tryna get root of the cycle of pain as a Black women, these trends are Global not limited to America, but we are using America as a starting point because the data is right there.

 

[O.J. Simpson]

You’re saying what it is that I’m saying though.

But that’s not what is being preached in here.

We’re being told that we need to somehow “protect” these women from domestic violence and involve ourselves in the issue, when in actuality there is nothing really that myself and black men like myself can do to solve this problem.

We’re not the ones making the decision.

Non-racist white men often feel unjustly blamed for relatives' racism. If you were a non-racist white, how would you handle a racist uncle?

Likely, you’d judge someone who tolerates a racist relative.

All you have to do is act with awareness and dissociate from such attitudes.

Your actions contribute to the only solution an individual can produce.

Without knowing you, I'll trust you're not part of the problem. Hold your values confidently, assist where possible without resentment, and recognizing some need mental help.

You're not the problem. You are part of the solution. Show yourself as an example without resentment. That's what you can do.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Nah bruv

Negs and names 'Tether' do not affect me when I'm trying to genuinely discuss a crucial topic with what I presume to be adults.

Iv been raped
Iv experienced DV

Yet I still openly express my love and attraction to Black men and Black men only, so there's going to have to be much healing taking place so that ;
A) I don't end up dead at the hands of man in the long run

B) Our men don't end up in jail or dead in the form of retribution from the victims families


Just tryna get root of the cycle of pain as a Black women, these trends are Global not limited to America, but we are using America as a starting point because the data is right there.

I sorry that you went through what you went through. But folks can’t use the data of Black Americans to push their own agenda. And to create false narratives.

 

[Max Power]

Black men who preach common sense are called “incels”

But then again, you can't tell who's white and trolling and who's really mentally caught up in this black Incel movement. shyt is deep.

It's like a script

 

[Scipio]

Insane number, I wonder why. Are domestics that much higher? I haven't seen anything to suggest?

Transient women + serial killers?

It's because black people in general experience much more murder than other groups. Our murder rate is generally higher. The murder rate for Black men is through the roof too.

 

[O.J. Simpson]

It's like a script

In your opinion do incels even exist?

If so, tf would they look like?

 

[Kasgoinjail]

I sorry that you went through what you went through. But folks can’t use the data of Black Americans to push their own agenda. And to create false narratives.

And the false narrative was what exactly?

 

[num123]

I had the soul of my old neighborhood ripped out of its chest two years ago when one of the purest women I know was gunned down by her ex-husband (with no priors) on a Brownsville street. Upset that she left him 10 years prior and was in a Lesbian relationship.

I just want men to look in the mirror and at each other for once instead of looking at "who she______" as a copout. I've spent countless hours talking to my son's, living with me and one not, on how to deal with women and to handle their emotions.

I just don't see enough of us being willing to have these talks. It's annoying.

I am sorry for your loss, but i can not look in the mirror because i am not an abuser nor have any violent thoughts towards women. Like others in here have said, Black men are killed at a vastly higher rate than anyone else and the vast majority of that is result of dysfunctional, horrible neighborhoods and gang violence. It would most likely be the same for women.

The vast majority of Black men are not abusing their spouses. The vast majority of Black men are not killing their spouses. The vast majority of Black men are not committing violent crimes that result in death. I wish/hope there is a report than breaks these numbers down based on socioeconomic status and not just everyone lumped together.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I am sorry for your loss, but i can not look in the mirror because i am not an abuser nor have any violent thoughts towards women. Like others in here have said, Black men are killed at a vastly higher rate than anyone else and the vast majority of that is result of dysfunctional, horrible neighborhoods and gang violence. It would most likely be the same for women.

The vast majority of Black men are not abusing their spouses. The vast majority of Black men are not killing their spouses. The vast majority of Black men are not committing violent crimes that result in death. I wish/hope there is a report than breaks these numbers down based on socioeconomic status and not just everyone lumped together.

Im not an abuser either. This isnt about the vast majority, so why should that matter? Point is, should we be content with Black women dying at these numbers at the hands of Black men?

shyt…its worse here in Africa where Im staying at the moment. But Ive lost three women I was cool with over the past decade back in New York and Texas. Enough is enough

 

[num123]

Im not an abuser either. This isnt about the vast majority, so why should that matter? Point is, should we be content with Black women dying at these numbers at the hands of Black men?

shyt…its worse here in Africa where Im staying at the moment. But Ive lost three women I was cool with over the past decade back in New York and Texas. Enough is enough

Should we be content that Black men are dying these numbers at the hands of Black men? What i am saying is i believe most of these deaths, men and women, are borne from highly dysfunctional living conditions/neighborhoods.

Of course there are black doctors or lawyers with no criminal records going and killing their spouses for whatever reason, but i would wager is that most of the violence is happening is in these fukked up neighborhoods. How much of the deaths, for both men and women, are from getting shot because of gang violence next to them? Just for living in a bad neighborhood?

Even in the report they mention the link between the increase of death with poor socioeconomic status:

Recent evidence suggests a strong link exists between higher homicide rates and the effects of deeply entrenched racial inequities – which manifest through factors such as educational attainment, unemployment, and wealth distribution – across the USA [1]. This suggests that measures to reduce structural racism in the USA could help prevent elevated rates of homicide among Black women. Understanding how disparities in homicide rates change over time at state and regional levels may help identify areas where intervention is needed most.

Homicide rates among Black women were higher than their White peers during all periods in every state analysed. Overall, the greatest disparities were in the Midwest, where Black women in 2020 were over seven times more likely to be murdered than White women. The greatest inequities in homicide rates were in Wisconsin in 2019-2020, when Black women were 20 times more likely to be murdered than White women.

Notably, states with the greatest disparities in homicide rates were in parts of the country with a high proportion of people of low socioeconomic status living close together. These areas also tend to have histories of slavery and lynching, and are places where especially tense Black Lives Matter protests took place at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, there are also many underlying factors involved, such as gender – males are more often responsible for intimate partner violence and shootings – but these were not investigated in the study.

“Our findings indicate that the greatest inequities are in the areas of the country where concentrated disadvantage is pronounced. Thus, focusing on historical structural racism’s long-lasting legacy in the USA is imperative. Efforts aimed at reducing disproportionate homicide deaths among Black women can be implemented through addressing the role of structural racism when it comes to policies and practices that increase Black women’s risk and lessen Black women’s access to much needed resources,” said Victoria A. Joseph, a co-author of the paper and Data Analyst at Mailman School of Public Health Epidemiology, Columbia University. [2]

 

[NYC Rebel]

Should we be content that Black men are dying these numbers at the hands of Black men?

Amazing. That’s the white lives matter too thing you just pulled.