The lack of a serious passion behind commentary is HURTING the business.

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That bland wikipedia style commentary where they read off unnecessary stats about everything:scust:

“Undertaker has gone to 209 wrestlemanias and has 300 eliminations in the royal rumble with the fastest being 3.4 seconds in 1991 where his entrance was 3 minutes long:gladbron:

It’s half that, and the other half trying to sound like teenagers marking out
 
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michael cole has called like 5000 shows now, probably more. he's seen it all.

also the show is so micro managed and sterile that it's near impossible for these guys to truly get excited about anything. they are witnessing the same story every week.
is why i dont get how tazz and all these dudes with podcasts whine that due to there being 5 hours of content a week more pressure is on the writers than ever before:why: on what planet? the shows are seperate and wwe hasnt been plot or character driven for almost a decade now. Where are the stories behind any of the feuds? dude just walks into the ring grabs a mic and says i think i can beat you, you disagree? lets find out tonight = and thats your main event folks. Next raw its never mentioned so where is this pressure on the writers when continuity isnt factored in the booking? :mindblown:
Only if your team focuses solely on the in ring action kinda like Cole and Tazz did. If you do that though, you have to present it as a legit sport and no a cartoonish manner filled with fukkery or cheesiness.
they had the talent to pull that off with the likes of haas,angle,benji, brock, eddie, benoit e.t.c You couldnt have that commentating style with the calibre of rasslers today..
 
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Her husband was getting his ass handed to him and she's like "this is disturbing to watch" :francis:

Bytch should have ran out there on some :damn:leave him alone! You gonna kill him!

SON!!!!!

WWE used to be all for the over the top theatrics like u just described!!!!!!

They play it too safe nowadays.
 

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This is how Vince wants it, sadly. He's always leaned towards faceless "boradcast journalist" dweebs, Jim Ross was just an anomaly and Vince was always trying to get him out the paint anyway.

Dude really needs people around him to save him from himself most of the time.
 

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by this time I knew the deal with wrestling but this right here is how you sell a moment

Those “Why!!!!!” send a goddamn chill up my spine every time. You’d think JR was watching his own son catch the fade and HHH was his newphew running it



JULY 9, 2001: A DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT INFAMY!

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR WWF SOULS!!!!:damn::damn::damn::damn:
 

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This

The color commentators are all failed wrestlers/personalities, none of them have an ounce of legitimacy.

If we go back from Ventura (former Marine and title challenger) Heenan (Manager of champions) Piper, Savage, Perfect, Lawler, Hayes/Hendrix, Foley all have credentials of being in main events and successful within the squared circle whether it was WWF or not. Heyman worked because he was a big mouth manager.

Even the early JBL days he bought something to the table, as a former World Champ.

Yeah I know they're being micromanage, to the tenth degree but I cannot take the views of Graves, Saxton, Coach serious because they've never done shyt in the ring.

Yea but the GOAT never wrestled either, and if I hadn't watched a documentary on him I never would have known Heenan ever wrestled. All you need to be a good commentator is a great voice and to be excited about what you are watching, that's it.. WWE takes that excitement out and tries to force useless ESPN stats down your throat, they try to force feed you shyt you don't care about while you are watching something else in the ring.. They are trying to always sell you on whats coming up in the future and don't spend enough time talking about whats currently happening in the ring..

They figure if you are excited about upcoming events and shows then they can secure your money in the future. They are not trying to offer great commentary, they are trying to sell you everything they are doing..

The problem is they are selling all this shyt to a majority audience that are already all in, so it comes off as annoying to us, Vince still thinks they have a casual fanbase and people are going to flip by raw at night and be like aww man they are having a womens ppv let me get invested for the next few months..

And even if that happens after watching the weekly product I'm sure most people are turned off and lose interest by the time the ppv comes around.
 

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This

The color commentators are all failed wrestlers/personalities, none of them have an ounce of legitimacy.

If we go back from Ventura (former Marine and title challenger) Heenan (Manager of champions) Piper, Savage, Perfect, Lawler, Hayes/Hendrix, Foley all have credentials of being in main events and successful within the squared circle whether it was WWF or not. Heyman worked because he was a big mouth manager.

Even the early JBL days he bought something to the table, as a former World Champ.

Yeah I know they're being micromanage, to the tenth degree but I cannot take the views of Graves, Saxton, Coach serious because they've never done shyt in the ring.

Booker T is perfect. He over the top, hes hilarious and he has expierence so he has validation on how shyt move in the ring
 

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I disagree with the “need a heel announcer” shyt.

I think the E has burned that to the ground and it’s old and played out.

I’d rather just 2 guys out there commentating that have great chemistry and feel like they get along.

Martha

Yeah, I dunno about this... WWF/E's best teams always consisted of a face/heel dynamic on the commentary. If anything, I'm surprised they don't play that up MORE now. Sure, Graves will take the heel stance but he never 100% heels out, and Cole usually doesn't have any stance at all, so there's no real dynamic there. It'd be extra dry with two guys on commentary just agreeing about everything. I wish they'd just let Graves heel out and disagree about everything, he's about the only one they've got who could be in that role, everyone else is plain AF.

Vince/Ventura
Monsoon/Heenan
JR/Lawler
even Cole/JBL when JBL first started commentating in '06.


These teams always sold those matches. Matter fact, Lawler didn't get bad until he was made to just agree with everyone and become a straight-up babyface announcer, shilling and parroting whomever he was calling the matches with.
 

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This

The color commentators are all failed wrestlers/personalities, none of them have an ounce of legitimacy.

If we go back from Ventura (former Marine and title challenger) Heenan (Manager of champions) Piper, Savage, Perfect, Lawler, Hayes/Hendrix, Foley all have credentials of being in main events and successful within the squared circle whether it was WWF or not. Heyman worked because he was a big mouth manager.

Even the early JBL days he bought something to the table, as a former World Champ.

Yeah I know they're being micromanage, to the tenth degree but I cannot take the views of Graves, Saxton, Coach serious because they've never done shyt in the ring.

Graves and Saxton were around developmental for so long thought that they basically have a relationship or knowledge of most of the current roster's journey. They're still failed but at least they can give that insight I guess.
 
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