The Kamala Harris pick is about to cause the media to gear up another attack on the ADOS movement

[GMoney]

This topic reveals the difference between people who understand what power means and those who don't.

I paraphrased the Nas line recently in a thread about Booker T. Washington, and it applies here

Queens dudes AAs run you dudes Obama/Harris, ask Russell Simmons Valerie/Desiree.

The king makers or queen makers in both cases were individuals and groups that are solidly African American. They vetted , cosigned, and will have a hand in steering these nonAA candidates. The candidate winning the election promotes THEIR directives and agendas and validates and increases their power moving forward. Kings come and go, king makers remain.

Also, the people in those organizations know and respect their ethnic and family cultures from the time they are children. They weren't grown men suddenly discovering ethnic pride on the cue of a Youtuber. Pride and knowledge of who they are and the history of their people here is something they learned from their families. As you pointed about before, some of them can trace the name, date of arrival and ethnicity of their first African ancestors who set foot in the 13 colonies. Ethnic and family pride is what gives them the foundation to go out in the world and continue the legacy of achievement. Ethnic pride should be a reserve of strength to propel people forward.
Grown men who are new to the concept of ethnic pride seem to only mention it when discussing Africans/Islanders. Never as a source of strength to push themselves forward and achieve.


The Valerie Jarrets and Desiree Rogers of the world are aware of who is who, and what Obama and Harris' origins are. Members of these groups have married and absorbed Africans and Caribbeans, as have many Black organizations and families. I mean, the composer of the Negro National Anthem, James Weldon Johnson, was half Caribbean.
These Black organizations and power brokers are trying to improve conditions for Black people. They are the ones who wield the power. The ethnic heritage of the VP candidate that they support factors very little in their drive to get access to the govt. resources to help the community. The big picture.

This is just a long-winded way of saying the Boule. We've discussed the limitations of these black "power" brokers to ad nauseam on here and their largely self-serving aims.

Look at the state of black America right now. What power moves are they making? Having a black face in a high place doesn't translate to helping the black community at all. Just cause some boule types signed off on another non-ados, highly educated, refined-looking, light skin politician doesn't mean the collective got a win.

 

[JackRoss]

Skin folk can't send out a S.O.S. but want black Americans to end white supremacy

 

[Typical Coli Nigga]

This is just a long-winded way of saying the Boule. We've discussed the limitations of these black "power" brokers to ad nauseam on here and their largely self-serving aims.

Look at the state of black America right now. What power moves are they making? Having a black face in a high place doesn't translate to helping the black community at all. Just cause some boule types signed off on another non-ados, highly educated, refined-looking, light skin politician doesn't mean the collective got a win.

so the we admit that she's black and is in black organizations now, but the issue is that she didnt struggle as much as others and she went to school so she shouldnt be vp?



the hate yall have for middle class black people is

 

[Tim Dripcan]

I understand where my AADOS brothers and sisters are coming from as a non AADOS. It's disgusting to see some AA and immigrants acknowledging this non black woman as African American.

A lot of those same people using the ”yOu hAtE bLaCk wOmEn” scapegoat when in fact I actually want to see an actual African American woman with ties to her ancestors in American to run for VP. Not some non black women with no ties what so ever to African American lineage.

 

[saturn7]

I understand where my AADOS brothers and sisters are coming from as a non AADOS. It's disgusting to see some AA and immigrants acknowledging this non black woman as African American.

A lot of those same people using the ”yOu hAtE hAtE bLaCk wOmEn” scapegoat when in fact I actually want to see an actual African American woman with ties to her ancestors in American to run for VP. Not some non black women with no ties what so ever to African American lineage.

The issue with Kamala is not the fact that she is not ADOS but that COMBINED with her shytty record as a DA and AG should be a red flag for every black person.

Yet nikkas want to cape for Biden and Harris. Two people who've made their careers off locking black folks up.

 

[Pseudonym]

Why Michelle didnt run for VP?
Obama and Biden had such a good relationship during Obama's term.

Spoiler

she probably tired of all the political BS, but we want you back FLOTUS!!!

 

[IVS]

If sKamala really cared about people she would not be trying to be the VP or Pres of the USA.

She would have been an ambassador to India or Jamaica trying to improve the plight her Bharatan kin and/or of the black Jamaicans she claims to share heritage with.

Bish so phony its disturbing. And you think shell care about US somehow.

I got Bridge for sale (plies voice)

 

[God Almighty]

 

[get these nets]

This is just a long-winded way of saying the Boule. We've discussed the limitations of these black "power" brokers to ad nauseam on here and their largely self-serving aims.

Look at the state of black America right now. What power moves are they making? Having a black face in a high place doesn't translate to helping the black community at all. Just cause some boule types signed off on another non-ados, highly educated, refined-looking, light skin politician doesn't mean the collective got a win.

I can almost guarantee that a family member of yours or an AA graduate from your high school has directly benefited from an organization/foundation that was founded by or currently lead by Boule Blacks. If you had a valedictorian in your family, he or she could immediately confirm because they were probably awarded a scholarship from one of groups.

With almost the same amount of certainty, I can say that your relatives or fellow AA classmates have benefited from a measure or law put in place during Obama's presidency (with Valerie Jarret as his chief of staff ).

The same groups and individuals helped elect Harold Washington to Chicago mayor and Carolyn Braun to the US Senate. I can guarantee that the AA communities in that city and state benefited because of measures promoted by those African American politicians.

The conditions for Black people in America aren't what they are because of a lack of effort by the Black elite. In fact, it would be a lot worse without their efforts.

It's youtuber talk to say that Boule Blacks don't promote the interests of the Black community. It sounds good and gives people another scapegoat to point to, but it's just not true. The individuals and organizations and their CONCRETE efforts are well documented.

 

[CBSkyline]

I clicked the thread to laugh at the replies, and now I'm letting wondering... How does a writer for NYT, author of the 1619 Project, who writes about the various Black experiences in America, not know the differences between race, ethnicity, and nationality? At first I thought she was just playing dumb because she didn't want to agree with Levin's point at all since he is on the right, but then I saw as I kept scrolling that nope, babygirl really has no idea on the differences.

 

[IVS]

This topic reveals the difference between people who understand what power means and those who don't.

I paraphrased the Nas line recently in a thread about Booker T. Washington, and it applies here

Queens dudes AAs run you dudes Obama/Harris, ask Russell Simmons Valerie/Desiree.

The king makers or queen makers in both cases were individuals and groups that are solidly African American. They vetted , cosigned, and will have a hand in steering these nonAA candidates. The candidate winning the election promotes THEIR directives and agendas and validates and increases their power moving forward. Kings come and go, king makers remain.

Also, the people in those organizations know and respect their ethnic and family cultures from the time they are children. They weren't grown men suddenly discovering ethnic pride on the cue of a Youtuber. Pride and knowledge of who they are and the history of their people here is something they learned from their families. As you pointed about before, some of them can trace the name, date of arrival and ethnicity of their first African ancestors who set foot in the 13 colonies. Ethnic and family pride is what gives them the foundation to go out in the world and continue the legacy of achievement. Ethnic pride should be a reserve of strength to propel people forward.
Grown men who are new to the concept of ethnic pride seem to only mention it when discussing Africans/Islanders. Never as a source of strength to push themselves forward and achieve.


The Valerie Jarrets and Desiree Rogers of the world are aware of who is who, and what Obama and Harris' origins are. Members of these groups have married and absorbed Africans and Caribbeans, as have many Black organizations and families. I mean, the composer of the Negro National Anthem, James Weldon Johnson, was half Caribbean.
These Black organizations and power brokers are trying to improve conditions for Black people. They are the ones who wield the power. The ethnic heritage of the VP candidate that they support factors very little in their drive to get access to the govt. resources to help the community. The big picture.

RolanDNC Martin is that you? Sounds like fairytale shill talk to me

 

[EndGame]

 

[get these nets]

RolanDNC Martin is that you? Sounds like fairytale shill talk to me

Jokes are a lot easier than trying to refute/disprove what somebody wrote.

 

[Counter Racist Male]

My position is for ADOS to right for reparations, end white supremacy,etc and stop wasting their time attacking black immigrants

Nobody ever attacked black immigrants. We only asked you to do two things that you have a problem with both those things


1. Understand our plight from From a historical perspective.Understand that we are not immigrants I did not choose to come here.


2. Check the people in your own communities who are used to disrespect us. If you don’t we will assume that you side with them.

 

[DrBanneker]

This topic reveals the difference between people who understand what power means and those who don't.

I paraphrased the Nas line recently in a thread about Booker T. Washington, and it applies here

Queens dudes AAs run you dudes Obama/Harris, ask Russell Simmons Valerie/Desiree.

The king makers or queen makers in both cases were individuals and groups that are solidly African American. They vetted , cosigned, and will have a hand in steering these nonAA candidates. The candidate winning the election promotes THEIR directives and agendas and validates and increases their power moving forward. Kings come and go, king makers remain.

Also, the people in those organizations know and respect their ethnic and family cultures from the time they are children. They weren't grown men suddenly discovering ethnic pride on the cue of a Youtuber. Pride and knowledge of who they are and the history of their people here is something they learned from their families. As you pointed about before, some of them can trace the name, date of arrival and ethnicity of their first African ancestors who set foot in the 13 colonies. Ethnic and family pride is what gives them the foundation to go out in the world and continue the legacy of achievement. Ethnic pride should be a reserve of strength to propel people forward.
Grown men who are new to the concept of ethnic pride seem to only mention it when discussing Africans/Islanders. Never as a source of strength to push themselves forward and achieve.


The Valerie Jarrets and Desiree Rogers of the world are aware of who is who, and what Obama and Harris' origins are. Members of these groups have married and absorbed Africans and Caribbeans, as have many Black organizations and families. I mean, the composer of the Negro National Anthem, James Weldon Johnson, was half Caribbean.
These Black organizations and power brokers are trying to improve conditions for Black people. They are the ones who wield the power. The ethnic heritage of the VP candidate that they support factors very little in their drive to get access to the govt. resources to help the community. The big picture.

This is true to an extent. The Chicago Black elite, as powerful as they are, don't run the West Coast though. Kamala solidly fit the role you are describing roughly from her time starting in SF with Willie Brown (minus the relationship) up through becoming SF AG. Once she went statewide, a whole different set of non-Black actors, patrons, and stakeholders came into play. I have no doubt Jarrett, etc. are on her side but don't think she owes them or is going to be influenced by them like Obama. San Fran isn't to California what Chicago is to Illinois. Black elite influence were not going to clinch that state. Obama's Silicon Valley ties probably helped but I would temper her Black-elite backing story at this juncture.

Case in point her husband, Doug Emhoff. I don't dispute they love each other and am not deriding their relationship but from a political perspective, their marriage helped gain her the confidence of the SoCal liberals and Jewish elites which is huge in California for a statewide politician, much more so than the Black elite in northern or southern California. In fact, one could argue amongst a certain part of the California liberal elite, having a Black husband may have pigeonholed her. This isn't the same dynamics Obama operated under.