The irony of all this is that Triple Haitch is actually a B+ player

[R=G]

Wrestlemania Era

Tier 1 Guys - Andre, Hogan, Savage, Austin, Rock, Michaels, Bret, Flair, Cena, Sting, Taker

Last 10 years put Taker on the A+ list: He elevated Brock, he's been the Main attraction at Mania now for the past 5-6 years, he was the sole reason Smackdown stayed relevant

Savage is the only one debatable, since you can say he piggy backed off Hogan but Savage and Liz were a big draw.

Bret and Shawn kept the Company alfoat, Elevated Austin in different ways + Shawn made guys like Edge, Cena & Orton legit in his 2nd run.

The others you don't have to debate.

Triple H was never a top baby face, Vince was the Top Heel and owes his entire career to Stephanie and Shawn & his most memorable feud was with Mick Foley.

Taker elevated Brock? What?

 

[Silkk]

Not really. .it just matters because Cena can't bring it at the top show. It only mattered by 2005. Half the streak...no one even knows the opponents.

 

[R=G]

Bret and Shawn didn't carry shyt..they almost lost to WCW if Steve Austin didn't save their asses. When they went from Bret and Shawn main events to Austin as champion, money was being made and the NWO was put in their place. Little Shawn and Bret were lackluster as fukk. Goldberg at his peak blows them away.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Bret and Shawn didn't carry shyt..they almost lost to WCW if Steve Austin didn't save their asses. When they went from Bret and Shawn main events to Austin as champion, money was being made and the NWO was put in their place. Little Shawn and Bret were lackluster as fukk. Goldberg at his peak blows them away.

Huh? Bret and Shawn clearly carried the company from 1994-1997. Numbers were down then, and they would have been lower if not for Bret, Shawn, and possibly Razor.

 

[Nintendough]

that shyt didn't make 1/4 of the money Rock did in 1999...try again, hide and seek. Lol@1997 failures and that terrible disaster named after DX...haha. I'm surrounded by fools. Mere fools...comedy to the end.

Stay on topic Erik, you made it seem as if Rock was the only guy to have any program themed off of him. I presented facts to prove otherwise, you present nothing on the other hand. Your problem is that you think you know everything, which automatically disqualifies you from learning anything. The trait of a fool....

 

[Nintendough]

Huh? Bret and Shawn clearly carried the company from 1994-1997. Numbers were down then, and they would have been lower if not for Bret, Shawn, and possibly Razor.

@R=G isn't going to comprehend any of this, you're making too much sense.

 

[ECA]

The Savage slander in here is disgusting. Cats really in here trying to say that Warrior was a bigger draw all-time than Macho Man

 

[The G.O.D II]

Lol..lunatic nyggas rambling beyond their measure.

Says the moron who thinks AJ is a massive deal. Run along mental midget. Grown posters having adult convoys here

 

[FreshAIG]

Top 10 biggest draws every year from 1983-2008 (It's actually done from 1901, but we don't care about them years cause we never saw them). This is from WrestlingObserver Newsletter in 2009.

1983 - 1. Ric Flair; 2. Bob Backlund; 3. Harley Race; 4. Don Muraco; 5. Sgt. Slaughter; 6. Hulk Hogan; 7. Andre the Giant; 8. Jimmy Snuka; 9. Ricky Steamboat and John Studd

1984 - 1. Hulk Hogan (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. Ric Flair; 3. Antonio Inoki; 4. Iron Sheik; 5. Kerry Von Erich; 6. Andre the Giant; 7. Paul Orndorff and Road Warriors; 9. Junkyard Dog; 10. Nick Bockwinkel and Canek

1985 - 1 Hulk Hogan (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. Ric Flair; 3. Roddy Piper; 4. Paul Orndorff and Road Warriors; 5. Andre the Giant; 6. John Studd; 7. Bob Orton Jr.; 8. Randy Savage and Antonio Inoki; 10. Kevin & Kerry Von Erich

1986 - 1. Hulk Hogan (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. Ric Flair and Paul Orndorff; 4. Road Warriors; 5. Randy Savage; 6. Dusty Rhodes and Nikita Koloff; 7. Roddy Piper and King Kong Bundy; 9. Midnight Express and Tito Santana

1987 - 1. Hulk Hogan (dominant year); 2. Ric Flair; 3. Randy Savage; 4. Kamala; 5. Road Warriors; 6. Dusty Rhodes and One Man Gang; 8. Andre the Giant and Antonio Inoki; 10. Harley Race and Carlos Colon

1988 - 1. Hulk Hogan; 2. Randy Savage; 3. Ric Flair and Andre the Giant; 5. Ted DiBiase; 6. Lex Luger; 7. Big Bossman; 8. Tully Blanchard; 9. Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes and Carlos Colon

1989 - 1. Hulk Hogan; 2. Randy Savage; 3. Big Bossman; 4. Ultimate Warrior; 5. Big Van Vader; 6. Akira Maeda; 7. Antonio Inoki; 8. Andre the Giant, Carlos Colon and Rick Rude

1990 - 1. Hulk Hogan; 2. Ultimate Warrior; 3. Stan Hansen; 4. Mr. Perfect; 5. Riki Choshu; 6. Konnan and Rick Rude; 8. Big Van Vader, Perro Aguayo and Earthquake

1991 - 1. Hulk Hogan; 2. Ric Flair; 3. Konnan; 4. Perro Aguayo; 5. Sgt. Slaughter; 6. Ultimate Warrior; 7. Tatsumi Fujinami; 8. Undertaker, Genichiro Tenryu and Canek

1992 - 1. Ric Flair; 2. Konnan; 3. Hulk Hogan and Sid Vicious; 5. Cien Caras; 6. Bret Hart; 7. Randy Savage; 8. Vampiro; 9. Davey Boy Smith; 10. Perro Aguayo

1993 - 1. Konnan; 2. Cien Caras; 3. Perro Aguayo; 4. Genichiro Tenryu; 5. Mascara Ano 2000 and El Hijo del Santo; 7. Keiji Muto; 8. Riki Choshu, Love Machine, Octagon and Tatsumi Fujinami (Bret Hart was No. 1 in the United States)

1994 - 1. Konnan; 2. Bret Hart; 3. Shinya Hashimoto; 4. Nobuhiko Takada and Perro Aguayo; 6. Genichiro Tenryu; 7. Antonio Inoki, Owen Hart and Love Machine; 10. Cien Caras, Keiji Muto and Atsushi Onita

1995 - 1. Shinya Hashimoto; 2. Ric Flair; 3. Antonio Inoki; 4. Konnan and Keiji Muto; 6. Perro Aguayo; 7. Masahiro Chono; 8. Mitsuharu Misawa and Cien Caras; 10. Nobuhiko Takada and Diesel

1996 - 1. Nobuhiko Takada; 2. Shawn Michaels; 3. Shinya Hashimoto; 4. Bret Hart; 5. Keiji Muto; 6. Diesel; 7. Ric Flair, Kenta Kobashi, Toshiaki Kawada, Akira Taue, Vader, Genichiro Tenryu, El Hijo del Santo and Riki Choshu

1997 - 1. Shinya Hashimoto; 2. Undertaker; 3. Shawn Michaels; 4. Bret Hart; 5. Naoya Ogawa; 6. Lex Luger and Keiji Muto; 8. Steve Austin; 9. Hulk Hogan; 10. Riki Choshu, Kevin Nash and Mick Foley

1998 - 1. Steve Austin (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. Undertaker; 3. Kane; 4. Mick Foley; 5. The Rock; 6. Bill Goldberg; 7. Hulk Hogan; 8. HHH; 9. Sting; 10. Randy Savage

1999 - 1. The Rock (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. Steve Austin; 3. HHH; 4. Big Show; 5. Kane; 6. Undertaker; 7. Keiji Muto; 8. Bill Goldberg; 9. Ric Flair; 10. Kevin Nash

2000 - 1. The Rock (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. HHH; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. Kane and Chris Benoit; 6. X-Pac; 7. Undertaker; 8. Road Dogg; 9. Naoya Ogawa; 10. Kensuke Sasaki and Chris Jericho

2001 - 1. Steve Austin; 2. The Rock; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. HHH; 5. Undertaker; 6. Chris Jericho; 7. Kane; 8. Kensuke Sasaki, Chris Benoit and Keiji Muto

2002 -1. The Rock; 2. Bob Sapp; 3. HHH; 4. Hulk Hogan; 5. Chris Jericho; 6. Steve Austin; 7. Kazushi Sakuraba; 8. Brock Lesnar; 9. Yuji Nagata and Mirko Cro Cop

2003 - 1. Brock Lesnar; 2. HHH; 3. Kazushi Sakuraba; 4. Big Show and Kurt Angle; 6. Yuji Nagata, Hulk Hogan, Kenta Kobashi, Masahiro Chono, Bill Goldberg, Shawn Michaels and Wanderlei Silva

2004 - 1. HHH; 2. Chris Benoit; 3. Bob Sapp and Eddie Guerrero; 5. Shawn Michaels; 6. La Parka; 7. Randy Orton, Ric Flair and Kenta Kobashi; 10. Shinsuke Nakamura, Cibernetico and Perro Aguayo Jr.

2005 - 1. Kenta Kobashi; 2. HHH; 3. Mistico and Ultimo Guerrero; 5. Atlantis, John Cena and Batista; 8. Rey Bucanero and Cibernetico; 10. Kurt Angle and El Hijo del Santo

2006 - 1. Mistico; 2. Perro Aguayo Jr. and Dr. Wagner Jr.; 4. Atlantis and Black Warrior; 6. John Cena and Negro Casas; 8. Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero; 9. La Parka, Konnan and Muerte Cibernetico (Mesias)

2007 - 1. John Cena; 2. Mistico; 3. Batista; 4. Randy Orton and Perro Aguayo Jr; 6. Ultimo Guerrero; 7. Dr. Wagner Jr.; 8. Cibernetico; 9. Hector Garza and Great Khali

2008 - 1. Mistico; 2. HHH; 3. Perro Aguayo Jr.; 4. Ultimo Guerrero and Hector Garza; 6. Cibernetico; 7. Zorro and Shocker; 9. Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho

 

[nomoreneveragain]

WWF kept outdrawing WCW, even when it was losing the ratings battle ... WCW didn't do House Shows?

 

[FreshAIG]

WWF kept outdrawing WCW, even when it was losing the ratings battle ... WCW didn't do House Shows?

WWF had better house show attendance than WCW always. Mainly because from the markets WWF drew from.

WCW was killing them in ratings and PPV buys. WCW Uncensored 1997 had more buys than Wrestlemania 13. Think about that for a minute lol

 

[Cheercomp]

The streak is one of the biggest draws in wrestling history

Man listen! If Taker missed WM, no one would buy it right?? Wrong, they'd still cop it and wouldn't even realize Taker wasn't featured until the day after.

 

[The G.O.D II]

What are you talking about? Savage was the second biggest draw from 1987-1990 behind Hogan. You're really just talking out your ass at this point.

And yes, fair Warrior didn't work with a top draw, I'll give you that. But he never drew on his own. Savage drew great with Hogan or without him. And no Savage isn't on Hogan's level but you never said that. You said Warrior was a bigger draw which is absurd. Flair and Savage is equal. Flair was on top for a longer time as the man in his territory. Savage at his peak drew equal to or greater than Flair.

Hogan has stated he drew more money with Savage than anybody else he's ever worked with. Vince will tell you the same thing. Sure Hogan is a big part, but you have to have the antagonist to go against them to make it work.

I never said warrior was a bigger draw. I said he was overshadowed by Hogan and Warrior. Meaning he was never ever the sole guy. His first reign in retrospect was a transitional champ. They never gave him the ball. So in context, I'm saying how are ppl putting him on the top tier with hogan, Austin, flair? His career to me was always in the shadow of Hogan, wwf or wcw, champ or not. I had this convoys weeks ago lol

 

[Silkk]

Man listen! If Taker missed WM, no one would buy it right?? Wrong, they'd still cop it and wouldn't even realize Taker wasn't featured until the day after.

Of course wrestlemania is a huge draw, with one of the MAJOR buying points each year being The Streak and if it will be broken

There's no one wrestler bigger than mania, so you could say if "___ missed WM no one would buy it and be wrong no matter the name"

 

[FreshAIG]

The Undertaker streak has been the biggest draw for WM about 4 times out of the last 6 years. That's huge.