The inaugural 12 team college football playoff ranking thread. This year champ will not have an asterisk

[charknicks]

What a shytshow. The process is severely flawed.

Boise state the 3 seed 2 ACC teams get in essentially aided by losing to each other. And Arizona state with a bye

The elephant in the room is they are holding onto equal treatment to conference winners, when each conference CLEARLY ain’t the same. shyt is like rewarding a boxer who schedules tomatoe cans to ‘keep his zero’

Serious question. Very serious question; what is the point of scheduling ANY difficult games. Just chose teams you know you can beat and position yourself in a cake walk schedule and voila you’re practically guaranteed to be in there

Serious answer. Very serious answer- Alabama did exactly this, scheduled themselves a cakewalk non-conference schedule. They also lost 2 of their cakewalk conference games. Not 1, but 2. And so they dont deserve to be in the playoff.

For the rest of it- if you are the big schools, you still need to schedule difficult games, cause you want the 5 star kids to come to your school. Those are the games on TV, that people watch, and more important, NFL scouts watch. You cant get a gauge on how good a kid is beating up on Sam Houston St.
Gotta see how the kids play against equal comp.
Cant sell tickets at hundreds of dollars a piece for those cupcake games. People will find other things to do with their Saturdays.

 

[Braman]

Serious answer. Very serious answer- Alabama did exactly this, scheduled themselves a cakewalk non-conference schedule. They also lost 2 of their cakewalk conference games. Not 1, but 2. And so they dont deserve to be in the playoff.

For the rest of it- if you are the big schools, you still need to schedule difficult games, cause you want the 5 star kids to come to your school. Those are the games on TV, that people watch, and more important, NFL scouts watch. You cant get a gauge on how good a kid is beating up on Sam Houston St.
Gotta see how the kids play against equal comp.
Cant sell tickets at hundreds of dollars a piece for those cupcake games. People will find other things to do with their Saturdays.

My comment doesn’t apply to Bama or other SEC teams when they play UGA and Texas And that’s before we add in them playing Tennessee, LSU, Missouri, TAMU. God forbid OU bounces back. Thats that disingenuous personal bias shyt I’m talking about. Bama and other SEC teams CLEARLY play an unfair schedule compared to other teams but yall on some ‘oh well, shouldnt of lost ‘

So when I say make an easy schedule I’m referring to non SEC/B10 teams. If SMU, ASU can just skate thru and have the illusion that they’re actually good just bc they beat teams they’re favorited to beat, every non SEC/B10 team should. If people are dumb enough to fall for it go do it

 

[Braman]

For the rest of it- if you are the big schools, you still need to schedule difficult games, cause you want the 5 star kids to come to your school. Those are the games on TV, that people watch, and more important, NFL scouts watch. You cant get a gauge on how good a kid is beating up on Sam Houston St.
Gotta see how the kids play against equal comp.

First bold is outdated. 2nd bold is just incorrect:

1) NIL rules the day. Kids following the money not ‘oh look, they have the 3:30 game on cbs’

2) If you good they’ll find you. You gonna put 3 years of tape. A+ comp or F- comp, these scouts have their job for a reason. What marquee games has Tet McMillan play in? Or Shaduer? Or Travis Hunter? Or Quinyon Mitchell? Or Sauce Gardner? They don’t need marque games. They barely need to see you vs “equal comp”. Those scouts are pretty damn good at what they do

 

[charknicks]

My comment doesn’t apply to Bama or other SEC teams when they play UGA and Texas And that’s before we add in them playing Tennessee, LSU, Missouri, TAMU. God forbid OU bounces back. Thats that disingenuous personal bias shyt I’m talking about. Bama and other SEC teams CLEARLY play an unfair schedule compared to other teams but yall on some ‘oh well, shouldnt of lost ‘

So when I say make an easy schedule I’m referring to non SEC/B10 teams. If SMU, ASU can just skate thru and have the illusion that they’re actually good just bc they beat teams they’re favorited to beat, every non SEC/B10 team should. If people are dumb enough to fall for it go do it

ASU couldnt skate through. They literally had to win their conference to get into the CFP. Alabama was in a 6 way tie for FOURTH (with losses to 2 6-6 teams AND scheduled Mercer ON PURPOSE) and still complaining. Point is they couldnt beat Oklahoma or Vanderbilt with built in advantages already.

SMU didnt skate by. They went 11-2, undefeated in conference, and both losses to Top 20 teams. And the key, no blowout losses. No games where if they did get down 17-21 points, they just laid down and died like Alabama did against Oklahoma.

For the bolded- that is LITERALLY what the cry was for SMU losing to Clemson, oh well should have won the game. So it must work for all parties.

 

[charknicks]

First bold is outdated. 2nd bold is just incorrect:

1) NIL rules the day. Kids following the money not ‘oh look, they have the 3:30 game on cbs’

2) If you good they’ll find you. You gonna put 3 years of tape. A+ comp or F- comp, these scouts have their job for a reason. What marquee games has Tet McMillan play in? Or Shaduer? Or Travis Hunter? Or Quinyon Mitchell? Or Sauce Gardner? They don’t need marque games. They barely need to see you vs “equal comp”. Those scouts are pretty damn good at what they do

Bolded 1 is exactly what I said. Is the NIL money coming from big schools or small schools? Big schools, cause they will be playing other big schools with NIL money. So they will spend to compete

Bolded 2 means nothing to the everyday person buying tickets to the game or sitting to watch on TV. Thats for the scouts of the NFL. People still want to see the best play the best.
Who has really watched McMillan play? He was on a 4-8 Arizona squad. A bigger school would have had more eyes on him, and he would have been up there with Hunter in NYC for the Heisman, so it makes a difference.

 

[Braman]

ASU couldnt skate through. They literally had to win their conference to get into the CFP. Alabama was in a 6 way tie for FOURTH (with losses to 2 6-6 teams AND scheduled Mercer ON PURPOSE) and still complaining. Point is they couldnt beat Oklahoma or Vanderbilt with built in advantages already.

SMU didnt skate by. They went 11-2, undefeated in conference, and both losses to Top 20 teams. And the key, no blowout losses. No games where if they did get down 17-21 points, they just laid down and died like Alabama did against Oklahoma.

For the bolded- that is LITERALLY what the cry was for SMU losing to Clemson, oh well should have won the game. So it must work for all parties.

No non-SEC team in a million years would trade their situation for Bama’s so I have no idea what ‘advantage’ you speak of. Everyone knows that if Boise, ASU, SMU, etc had to play UGA, Texas, UT, (and TAMU, Ole Miss, etc) in a single season, we would not know they fukking exist. They would not sniff the CFP let alone a conference title, they’d barely be bowl eligible (more on that in a sec)

Lol @ SMU only losses being to top 20 teams. Well you’re leaving out that those were the only top 20 teams they played! Imagine if —-wait for it—they had to play top 20 teams almost every week?!? You know, like they do in the SEC

To hammer home this point I dont even need to pick a top SEC team let’s look at this lowly moribund loser team OU people keep referring to. If OU didn’t change conference, they’d likely have a loss to Texas, one other loss to a random b12 team, a cakewalk schedule, and they’d be a top 12 team in the playoffs. Yet in the SEC, they are barely bowl eligible. Really think and digest that.

 

[Braman]

Bolded 1 is exactly what I said. Is the NIL money coming from big schools or small schools? Big schools, cause they will be playing other big schools with NIL money. So they will spend to compete

Bolded 2 means nothing to the everyday person buying tickets to the game or sitting to watch on TV. Thats for the scouts of the NFL. People still want to see the best play the best.
Who has really watched McMillan play? He was on a 4-8 Arizona squad. A bigger school would have had more eyes on him, and he would have been up there with Hunter in NYC for the Heisman, so it makes a difference.

1- That’s…not what you said. These programs’ money ain’t going anywhere. They have more then enough equity and brand name to keep the money flowing regardless is they schedule a top 5 opponent every year. Non conference schedule is a (small) factor sure but it’s a blip on the NIL radar.

2- Again, moving goalposts. You said ‘it’s important to NFL scouts’ now you mentioning people watching tv.

And to my overall point, if I’m an AD/coach, I could not care less what the people want to see. If the system remains as-is, I’m not scheduling a top opponent that can harm my program’s chances at the CFP and the financial and exposure windfall that comes with it.

Think about how much money and exposure IU, ASU, SMU are making this year and they didn’t need to play a top non conference opponent to do it.

 

[Braman]

My last post on this: Has anyone actually looked at IU’s schedule?

Non conference: FIU, Charlotte, Western IL

Conference schedule: loses to the only ranked opponent it faces and they get credit for it: OSU

And then the shyt I don’t think i’ve ever seen: They somehow managed to not play the other top FIVE teams in the conference: Oregon, PSU, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota

You can argue the only noteworthy thing IU did all year—-other than arrive at the stadium and participate at OSU——was beat a 7-5 Michigan team 20-15.

Its all smoke and mirrors shyt is hilarious

 

[concise]

My last post on this: Has anyone actually looked at IU’s schedule?

Non conference: FIU, Charlotte, Western IL

Conference schedule: loses to the only ranked opponent it faces and they get credit for it: OSU

And then the shyt I don’t think i’ve ever seen: They somehow managed to not play the other top FIVE teams in the conference: Oregon, PSU, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota

You can argue the only noteworthy thing IU did all year—-other than arrive at the stadium and participate at OSU——was beat a 7-5 Michigan team 20-15.

Its all smoke and mirrors shyt is hilarious

Just like Texas schedule ...


They beat who they were supposed to beat, which is the bare minimum of what we ask of teams that want to be champions.

 

[Braman]

Just like Texas schedule ...


They beat who they were supposed to beat, which is the bare minimum of what we ask of teams that want to be champions.

This is just clown shyt brother. We already discussed this; a weak non conference when you play in the SEC is not the same as a weak non conference in any other conference, even the big 10

Georgia and OSU cancel out. IU then has ….no top 25 opponent

Texas at least scheduled Michigan, played TAMU, and had to play, and beat, UGA a 2nd time. On top of the elephant in the room that these 6-6 and 7-5 SEC teams like OU and Florida are way better than their record bc, again, they play a gauntlet schedule vs each other. 6-6 OU is not the same as 6-6 Rutgers. Stop it

 

[CrimsonTider]

Just like Texas schedule ...


They beat who they were supposed to beat, which is the bare minimum of what we ask of teams that want to be champions.

Unbelievable

No one is even talking about these boring ass 1st round matchups

 

[concise]

This is just clown shyt brother. We already discussed this; a weak non conference when you play in the SEC is not the same as a weak non conference in any other conference, even the big 10

That's your opinion. Other people's opinion has more B1G teams in the top 10.

Unbelievable

No one is even talking about these boring ass 1st round matchups

I'm sure the ratings would be higher with Alabama in it. If only they could have won just 1 more game.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

My last post on this: Has anyone actually looked at IU’s schedule?

Non conference: FIU, Charlotte, Western IL

Conference schedule: loses to the only ranked opponent it faces and they get credit for it: OSU

And then the shyt I don’t think i’ve ever seen: They somehow managed to not play the other top FIVE teams in the conference: Oregon, PSU, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota

You can argue the only noteworthy thing IU did all year—-other than arrive at the stadium and participate at OSU——was beat a 7-5 Michigan team 20-15.

Its all smoke and mirrors shyt is hilarious

IU is the biggest fraud in CFB.

ND -7.5 IS FREE MONEY, I promise y'all

 

[Braman]

IU is the biggest fraud in CFB.

ND -7.5 IS FREE MONEY, I promise y'all

Yep. And PSU -9 vs SMU, and in the next round Texas to cover over ASU and PSU over Boise. These teams are frauds.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Yep. And PSU -9 vs SMU, and in the next round Texas to cover over ASU and PSU over Boise. These teams are frauds.

I agree.

While James Franklin's ability to win big games is non-existent, SMU not coming into the cold and keeping it close.