The inaugural 12 team college football playoff ranking thread. This year champ will not have an asterisk

Which school will never crack the top 25?


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Lucky_Lefty

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The goal of the 4 team playoff was best teams. The goal of the 12 should be the same.

Looks like the goal of 12 is representation 👎🏿
Your team finished with 3 losses. Finished fourth in conference. WTF are you politicking in here like they were one of the 12 best?
 

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this would also up the ante to play some good teams out of conference if you want one of the 6 at large berths.
Exactly, put some pressure on these mf's to really play real teams. You want to get in if you don't win your conference? Play some real fukking teams...

I'd make it a 20-team playoff, 10 conference winners + 10 at large. The best 10 remaining teams get in. I dont know who could complain about this, its still always gonna favor the Power 4. This year that would be six SEC, four B1G, three ACC, that would be 65% of the field from a major conference (70% counting ASU). 70% Power 4...
…..and?!? :wtf: If that’s who the best team are so be it.

Plus being mad about that doesn’t even make sense any more. A year ago Oregon and Texas would be representing other conferences. But now since they (inexplicably, hilariously) joined the big 10 and SEC, I’m supposed to cry SEC bias?! :wtf:

They’ve already b*stardized the original context and meaning of conferences so why do some of you keep holding onto it? The big 12 was a few phone calls away from no longer existing, but now their champion—- beat Texas St by 3 points—-is the 4 seed in the playoffs. It’s a joke.
College football is the only sport that has all this hand-wringing and anger surrounding its postseason, because there's way too much subjectivity in it. No other sport has this issue. Not college basketball, college baseball, or any of the major leagues...

What NCAAF really needs is a single governing body that governs set, objective measures on how the postseason works, shyt even the regular season. These big schools shouldn't be allowed to just schedule free W's vs FCS competition...

Unless and until that happens, there will never be a postseason in college football that pleases everyone. These mf's can't even determine what "best team" means...

You know what, I could get with this, too. 10 automatic bids to the 10 conference winners, then the best 6 teams fill out the rest, no conference championship games. Mf's don't like it, win your conference and you have nothing to cry about...

Matter fact, since Pac12 will be football legit as a conference in '26, that'll be 10 FBS conferences. Make it 10 automatic bids for conference champions, then 10 at-large bids:

1 Oregon (13-0)
2 Georgia (11-2)
3 Boise State (12-1)
4 Arizona State (11-2)
5 Clemson (10-3)
6 Army (11-1)
7 Marshall (10-3)
8 Ohio (9-3)
9 Jacksonville State (9-4)
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10 Texas (11-2)
11 Penn State (11-2)
12 Notre Dame (11-1)
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13 Ohio State (10-2)
14 Tennessee (10-2)
15 Indiana (11-1)
16 SMU (11-2)
17 Alabama (9-3)
18 Miami (10-2)
19 Ole Miss (9-3)
20 South Carolina (9-3)

Figure out the bye shyt later...

Under this format all the deserving teams still get in. All the conference champions get in. All of the bubble teams get in. I don't know who could complain about this format, it's still 6 SEC and 4 B1G, that's still 50% of the field...

Take away the conference championship game and have winning your 12-game schedule truly matter. Have all conferences play 9 conference games...
^^^^Nobody can really bytch about this set-up, it rewards conference champions and also allows in bubble teams which will disproportionately favor the Power 4 schools anyway...
the entire argument is this

do you want 'best teams'

or do you want a tournament of champions

i significantly prefer the latter because you actually EARNED your way in other than being 'good.

plus that would within 1-2 years create more parity across the sport.
You can do both, see my above post. If I can figure this out in a few hours, someone within NCAA can figure this out. But the issue is that there's no single governing body in college football that expressly defines what postseason qualifications are...
part of the problem too is that the big 10/sec got too fukking big. Teams are playing uneven conference schedules (Indiana, TX)

I like the p4 + 1 conference champs getting in, less room to cram in the same other 5-6 schools each year depending on whose up or down (LSU, Bama, Michigan, OU, Miami, USC for example of teams who'll be around lurking too soon.

I dont wanna see the MAC or Sun Belt champion in the bracket :camby: enjoy that bowl game and keep it pushing
I wanna see the champion of those other conferences in, why not? It'll only increase the popularity of the sport...
 

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I hate when people do that. It’s like when that bozo @Regular_P spammed that nature thread in tlr taking bout it’s fact that dodo birds were the smartest birds on the planet when they existed. Nikka what? :brutusDahell:
 

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My proposed fix below based on this season. First of all they taking too long to start the playoffs and Bowl season now anyway as is, so the Top 4 seeds get double byes. The playoffs start the week immediately after the regular season, just like in basketball and the NFL...

Four bye weeks (double byes, start playing week of F 12/27)

1 Oregon (West Region)
2 Georgia (East Region)
3 Boise State (Midwest Region)
4 Arizona State (South Region)

First Round (teams play at home stadiums; F 12/13 & Sa 12/14)
20 South Carolina (9-3) at 5 Clemson (10-3)
16 SMU (11-2) at 9 Jacksonville State (9-4)

17 Alabama (9-3) at 8 Ohio (9-3)
13 Ohio State (10-2) at 12 Notre Dame (11-1)

18 Miami (10-2) at 7 Marshall (10-3)
14 Tennessee (10-2) at 11 Penn State (11-2)

19 Mississippi (9-3) at 6 Army (11-1)
15 Indiana (11-1) at 10 Texas (11-2)

Second Round (F 12/20 & Sa 12/21; starts bowl season)
*just hypothesizing random winners**
Independence Bowl: 20 South Carolina (10-3) vs 10 Texas (12-2)

Citrus Bowl: 17 Alabama (10-3) vs 16 SMU (12-2)

Gator Bowl: 18 Miami (11-2) vs 13 Ohio State (11-2)

Liberty Bowl: 19 Ole Miss (10-3) vs 11 Penn State (12-2)

Quarterfinals (F 12/27 & Sa 12/28)
Sun Bowl: 17 Alabama (11-3) vs 1 Oregon (13-0)
Peach Bowl: 13 Ohio State (12-2) vs 2 Georgia (11-2)
Fiesta Bowl: 11 Penn State (13-2) vs 3 Boise State (13-1)
Cotton Bowl: 10 Texas (13-2) vs 4 Arizona State (11-2)

Semifinals (Sa 1/4)
Sugar Bowl: 11 Penn State (14-2) vs 1 Oregon (14-0)
Orange Bowl: 10 Texas (14-2) vs 2 Georgia (12-2)

National Championship Game (Rose Bowl; M 1/13)
2 Georgia (13-2) vs 1 Oregon (15-0)

Under this scenario, the Final Four and National Championship end up being all B1G and SEC schools anyway. Everyone has to play their way thru, you may have to win 5 games if you run the table from opening playoff weekend but that's just how it breaks, while if you're a Top 4 seed you only gotta win 3 games...

Lowest seed plays highest seed each round. Only Rd1 are at home stadiums...

There are tweaks that could be made but if I can figure a system that rewards BOTH conference champions and the best teams, ain't no way no one else can't figure this shyt out...
 
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He tries to pass his opinions as facts.

I hate when people do that. It’s like when that bozo @Regular_P spammed that nature thread in tlr taking bout it’s fact that dodo birds were the smartest birds on the planet when they existed. Nikka what? :brutusDahell:
The only thing you need to know about him is this reply from a thread I dug up earlier today when looking for something else:
Do the players get paid?

Is the champion ship SEC vs SEC?

If the answer is NO to both of these questions


You Just wasted your time
 

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part of the problem too is that the big 10/sec got too fukking big. Teams are playing uneven conference schedules (Indiana, TX)

I like the p4 + 1 conference champs getting in, less room to cram in the same other 5-6 schools each year depending on whose up or down (LSU, Bama, Michigan, OU, Miami, USC for example of teams who'll be around lurking too soon.

I dont wanna see the MAC or Sun Belt champion in the bracket :camby: enjoy that bowl game and keep it pushing
I wonder if we start seeing a decoupling of these conferences.
 

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You know what, I could get with this, too. 10 automatic bids to the 10 conference winners, then the best 6 teams fill out the rest, no conference championship games. Mf's don't like it, win your conference and you have nothing to cry about...

Matter fact, since Pac12 will be football legit as a conference in '26, that'll be 10 FBS conferences. Make it 10 automatic bids for conference champions, then 10 at-large bids:

1 Oregon (13-0)
2 Georgia (11-2)
3 Boise State (12-1)
4 Arizona State (11-2)
5 Clemson (10-3)
6 Army (11-1)
7 Marshall (10-3)
8 Ohio (9-3)
9 Jacksonville State (9-4)
.........................
10 Texas (11-2)
11 Penn State (11-2)
12 Notre Dame (11-1)
...............
13 Ohio State (10-2)
14 Tennessee (10-2)
15 Indiana (11-1)
16 SMU (11-2)
17 Alabama (9-3)
18 Miami (10-2)
19 Ole Miss (9-3)
20 South Carolina (9-3)

Figure out the bye shyt later...

Under this format all the deserving teams still get in. All the conference champions get in. All of the bubble teams get in. I don't know who could complain about this format, it's still 6 SEC and 4 B1G, that's still 50% of the field...

Take away the conference championship game and have winning your 12-game schedule truly matter. Have all conferences play 9 conference games...
Doing too much

16 max
12 is fine

10 conference winners too much
More conferences should combine break up and join other conferences of anything
 
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Doing too much

16 max
12 is fine

10 conference winners too much
More conferences should combine break up and join other conferences of anything
So if conferences combine then adjust the postseason...

This is the most annoying thing about college football. The sport's history is literally adjusting the postseason every 15-20 years, the people "in charge" can never agree on what the postseason should be. But my hypothesis is doing too much 😆

All 1A conference champions should get a playoff berth in my opinion...

24 schools make the FCS playoffs. This 12-team playoff will likely expand, maybe not to 24 schools, but my example of 20 schools is far from ridiculous...
 
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