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Not really understanding all the bad reviews. It’s okay so far. No great but not bad either. I literally couldn’t make it past second episode of Euphoria. This seems tamer to me than that
It's not taking the chances Euphoria takes, that social media (not counting Facebook, which only likes white on white) want shows like Euphoria to take.
 

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There's a lot for me to like about the show, I love LA, I know LA pretty well, love the industry, very Bret Easton Ellis like satire of living in LA/industry, in fact a lot of the plot reminds me of novels like Glamorama and The Informers, also Arronfonsky's Black Swan, and a pretty scathing look at the underside of pop stars, the repetition, the bruises on her feet, the strain and tension, all the typical LA hanger ons and people who make money from her.

Also, really like the set design, Weeknds's house in Bel Air, the nods to 80's and 90's thrillers, the contemporary culture it gets mostly right, the score and soundtrack really work well. The style I really like.

Weeknd is just having way too much fun, a lot of meta stuff going on, sweaty and mildly hot sex, to his own music, with cocaine and expensive tequila in his own house/bed/pool, I was laughoing the whole time, it was just fun. Was it brilliant television? Probably not.

Does it have any real tension to the Teedros dynamic? Not as of now. Is Weeknd's acting pretty bad? Yes. This cuts both ways and the show hints at it in the "is he BLACK scene, you can say he's BLACK" (funny) but there is some element of weird sexual/racial elements, with the Demolition Man looking dude turning out the "innocent white girl", clad in what looks like an ode to middle eastern dress, in the 15th century. No shirt. It's a little much.

it's a weird racial trope, that at it's heart is probably vaguely racist, at minimum. All that stems from post Reconstruction racial myths about white women being terrorized by out of control black men. But, whatever, it's not for me to be outraged about. And maybe its even a satire of those tropes, but I kinda doubt it.

it's enjoyable as a satire, and I like the style.
 
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The most critical thing I would say about it, is the writing, when NOT industry satire, is pretty weak. The actual dialouge is pretty bland from Weeknd and his henchman. It was almost like a joke, those guys should sound as smooth as R&B singers in their prime, as sharp as Harvard business school graduates. They sounded like my homies after a few drinks (after 10 drinks) at the trash Hookah lounge on Tuesday.

"you don't sound like you are from New York"

"everybody knows Teedros"

"have you ever done cocaine"

"is this a hotel"

"hello angel"

and for all the social media outcry, the sex scenes are kinda goofy and tame, obviously explicit and trying to be provocative.

Obviously, that's some shyt Weeknd does, or anyone does, in that kind of house, everyone can have sex in different areas and meet for a drink later lol
 
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Not really understanding all the bad reviews. It’s okay so far. No great but not bad either. I literally couldn’t make it past second episode of Euphoria. This seems tamer to me than that

A bunch of radical feminist on twitter said it promotes "rape culture" and is torture porn and started a mass hate campaign against it before it even premiered, and then herd mentality afterwards started with people just joining in because it was the trendy thing to do. The funny thing is the same people love Euphoria, and in the first season it had a grown man have rough anal sex with an underaged transgender girl. Nate is also 10x worse than Tedros as a human being. Euphoria writing is just as ass as this but received good reviews, and it's only carried by it's cinematography and good acting performances.

The only objectively bad actor in this is The Weeknd. He's just not convincing as a charismatic and manipulative cult leader. I think LaKeith Stanfield would have been a better choice to play Tedros, but obviously The Weeknd is Executive Producer, and an A list celebrity, and even letting them shoot in his own house, so they're just trying to force a square peg in a round hole at this point. :pachaha:
 

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A bunch of radical feminist on twitter said it promotes "rape culture" and is torture porn and started a mass hate campaign against it before it even premiered, and then herd mentality afterwards started with people just joining in because it was the trendy thing to do. The funny thing is the same people love Euphoria, and in the first season it had a grown man have rough anal sex with an underaged transgender girl. Nate is also 10x worse than Tedros as a human being. Euphoria writing is just as ass as this but received good reviews, and it's only carried by it's cinematography and good acting performances.

The only objectively bad actor in this is The Weeknd. He's just not convincing as a charismatic and manipulative cult leader. I think LaKeith Stanfield would have been a better choice to play Tedros, but obviously The Weeknd is Executive Producer, and an A list celebrity, and even letting them shoot in his own house, so they're just trying to force a square peg in a round hole at this point. :pachaha:
Yeah, this show is being review bombed to shyt.

I actually don't think the weeknd is that horrible of an actor, I think the writing is where the problem lies, just specifically the dialogue. They also didn't do a great job and making the audience believe Abel could just hook in some hot ass bytch like that. It was to the point where I was wondering if there was some fight club shyt going on where she is hallucinating these people since she did have a psychotic break previously because the writing and continuity was so much different than the rest of the show. The less the show focuses on the cult aspect the better it is, so I'm hoping there is some sort of point to that storyline.
 

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A bunch of radical feminist on twitter said it promotes "rape culture" and is torture porn and started a mass hate campaign against it before it even premiered, and then herd mentality afterwards started with people just joining in because it was the trendy thing to do. The funny thing is the same people love Euphoria, and in the first season it had a grown man have rough anal sex with an underaged transgender girl. Nate is also 10x worse than Tedros as a human being. Euphoria writing is just as ass as this but received good reviews, and it's only carried by it's cinematography and good acting performances.

The only objectively bad actor in this is The Weeknd. He's just not convincing as a charismatic and manipulative cult leader. I think LaKeith Stanfield would have been a better choice to play Tedros, but obviously The Weeknd is Executive Producer, and an A list celebrity, and even letting them shoot in his own house, so they're just trying to force a square peg in a round hole at this point. :pachaha:

i said this early in the thread


if it's jared leto instead of able/weekend it become instantly dark twisted yet amazingly beautiful :mjpls:

they didn't have these problems with Fifty Shades of Grey franchise:mjpls:

they didn't have smoke for don draper:mjpls:



replace the weekend with timothee chalamet and it becomes a "guilty pleasurer" show :mjpls: Tedros becomes a "so good at being bad" character :mjpls:
 
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This is the show that has people :picard:?

:pachaha:

Abel has been running through 90lb White broads since Barack's first term and critics acting brand new about it now, because it's on TV and not in a song?

:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:


Big Manson Family vibes with the sing-along at the end though. Tedros Tedros aka Young Suga Free about to give America something to really :damn: about :russ:
 

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Listening to the soundtrack on Apple Music

Mike Dean did the score, which is sick, and has that characteristic Mike Dean/Kanye feel to it

Seductive, eerie, sexy, a little Phantom of the Opera, it's really fire.

sent my stripper homie that World Class Freak song too

there's a lot of quality here, even if the show ends up being pretty uneven.
 
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