The Human Torch Is Gonna Be Black In The New Fantastic Four Movie?

[OneManGang]

C/S

and lol @ people bringing up luke cage / t'challa as if them characters aren't gonna get fukked over regardless. Ol' "what if they made t'challa white..." muthafukka t'challa can't even get a movie over ant man. them hollywood cacs don't give a fukk about their black characters so fukk i care what they do to a small percentage of their white ones?

at the end of the day they just want the bare minimum number of token black background characters (1 or maybe 2... but only if the 1st one dies or disappears) to con casual black audiences to spend money on their movies.

like i see what you said about the director and perhaps it was just coincidence, but the way i saw it was that they knew black muthafukkas weren't gonna watch no damn thor so they figured lets get stringer bell in there as a marketing strategy... same idea with that asian guy... now i still aint watch that bullshyt but i was neither upset nor 'flattered' () at what i felt they were tryna do.

i just understand that if it isn't a black owned studio or popular black figurehead (like wesley was at the time) coming up with their own original characters or taking creative control of the white owned (Marvel/DC) black characters, that i don't expect anything other than black characters stuck in developmental hell or getting the short end of the stick... or the funny moments of outrage when white execs try to pick and choose the least 'controversial' character to turn black so to get 'us' to watch their shyt without pissing off too many white nerds in the process.

I hate this notion that we must be appeased in order to get our ticket money. If the movie is good, black people will watch it! These gimmicks aren't even necessary. Who is really saying, "fukk this movie, aint no nikkas!" You knew what you were getting when you went to see a fukking comic book Fantastic Four movie, or Thor movie, etc. War Machine in Iron Man was just fine. I dont see why T'Challa couldnt at least get a cameo in the next Avengers.

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

C/S

and lol @ people bringing up luke cage / t'challa as if them characters aren't gonna get fukked over regardless. Ol' "what if they made t'challa white..." muthafukka t'challa can't even get a movie over ant man. them hollywood cacs don't give a fukk about their black characters so fukk i care what they do to a small percentage of their white ones?

at the end of the day they just want the bare minimum number of token black background characters (1 or maybe 2... but only if the 1st one dies or disappears) to con casual black audiences to spend money on their movies.

like i see what you said about the director and perhaps it was just coincidence, but the way i saw it was that they knew black muthafukkas weren't gonna watch no damn thor so they figured lets get stringer bell in there as a marketing strategy... same idea with that asian guy... now i still aint watch that bullshyt but i was neither upset nor 'flattered' () at what i felt they were tryna do.

i just understand that if it isn't a black owned studio or popular black figurehead (like wesley was at the time) coming up with their own original characters or taking creative control of the white owned (Marvel/DC) black characters, that i don't expect anything other than black characters stuck in developmental hell or getting the short end of the stick... or the funny moments of outrage when white execs try to pick and choose the least 'controversial' character to turn black so to get 'us' to watch their shyt without pissing off too many white nerds in the process.

They should just make the whole FF black.....cracka ass crackas

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

I hate this notion that we must be appeased in order to get our ticket money. If the movie is good, black people will watch it! These gimmicks aren't even necessary. Who is really saying, "fukk this movie, aint no nikkas!" You knew what you were getting when you went to see a fukking comic book Fantastic Four movie, or Thor movie, etc. War Machine in Iron Man was just fine. I dont see why T'Challa couldnt at least get a cameo in the next Avengers.

Only people who need to be appeased is the comic book fan......The Avengers is the number one selling superhero movie for a reason!!!!

 

[Primetime]

I hate this notion that we must be appeased in order to get our ticket money. If the movie is good, black people will watch it! These gimmicks aren't even necessary. Who is really saying, "fukk this movie, aint no nikkas!" You knew what you were getting when you went to see a fukking comic book Fantastic Four movie, or Thor movie, etc. War Machine in Iron Man was just fine. I dont see why T'Challa couldnt at least get a cameo in the next Avengers.

True @ the bolded and also, if the movie is good, white people will watch. but thats not what a number of these white execs in hollywood would have you believe when it comes to black characters starring in shyt imo

edit - black people, white people, asian, indian, whoever. will watch. is what i was trynin to convey there

 

[Primetime]

Well to be fair, the Hogun character is Asian in the comic books too...But it still blows holes in that "What's a black guy doing with Norse gods" argument.

The Warriors 3 aren't part of Norse Mythology but people look past that shyt.

Yessir

They should just make the whole FF black.....cracka ass crackas

lol

cast will smith as reed richards and i bet it does 500 mil global. minimum.

 

[OneManGang]

Only people who need to be appeased is the comic book fan......The Avengers is the number one selling superhero movie for a reason!!!!

Exactly. If it wasn't for us, these super hero movies don't even get the light of day.

True @ the bolded and also, if the movie is good, white people will watch. but thats not what a number of these white execs in hollywood would have you believe when it comes to black characters starring in shyt imo

edit - black people, white people, asian, indian, whoever. will watch. is what i was trynin to convey there

Exactly.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Only people who need to be appeased is the comic book fan......The Avengers is the number one selling superhero movie for a reason!!!!

They're not even really trying to appease to them.

Despite what some people want to claim virtually all of these moves have taken liberties with various elements of these stories.

Truth be told when it comes to Marvel they're just trying to make the best movies they possibly can that general audiences will enjoy.

I do think movie companies are becoming aware of how fukked up it looks to have "Earth's mightiest heroes" be a group of white American men. Even white folks have started complaining about the lack of diversity. So they're trying different things to incorporate people of color into their films.

I understand the occasional race changes because most of these comic book properties are lily white despite most of the stories taking place in New York.

Changing the race of non white characters takes away from an already small pool of characters to add diversity.

Making one of the HUNDREDS of white characters black is not the same as making one of the dozens of black characters white.

 

[OneManGang]

They're not even really trying to appease to them.

Despite what some people want to claim virtually all of these moves have taken liberties with various elements of these stories.

Truth be told when it comes to Marvel they're just trying to make the best movies they possibly can that general audiences will enjoy.

I do think movie companies are becoming aware of how fukked up it looks to have "Earth's mightiest heroes" be a group of white American men. Even white folks have started complaining about the lack of diversity. So they're trying different things to incorporate people of color into their films.

I understand the occasional race changes because most of these comic book properties are lily white despite most of the stories taking place in New York.

Changing the race of non white characters takes away from an already small pool of characters to add diversity.

Making one of the HUNDREDS of white characters black is not the same as making one of the dozens of black characters white.

I agree with most of this post, but the thing is, Marvel has black characters. Not in limited numbers i might add. Its almost a pretty good representation of the country demographics. They refuse to give any of them screen time bar War Machine though. Instead they do weird stuff like change the race of Johnny Storm. They gonna change Sue's race too?

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

They're not even really trying to appease to them.

Despite what some people want to claim virtually all of these moves have taken liberties with various elements of these stories.

Truth be told when it comes to Marvel they're just trying to make the best movies they possibly can that general audiences will enjoy.

I do think movie companies are becoming aware of how fukked up it looks to have "Earth's mightiest heroes" be a group of white American men. Even white folks have started complaining about the lack of diversity. So they're trying different things to incorporate people of color into their films.

I understand the occasional race changes because most of these comic book properties are lily white despite most of the stories taking place in New York.

Changing the race of non white characters takes away from an already small pool of characters to add diversity.

Making one of the HUNDREDS of white characters black is not the same as making one of the dozens of black characters white.

What liberties have Marvel really taken.....nothing that ruins the core of the characters...Marvel would never make JS black, because they know they dont have too and it would confuse future consumers when it comes to going into the comic book stores......

Marvel only concern is building an empire like their Disney owners,
O you like the movie....go buy our books....o you like our books.... purchase our merchandise

Marvel has way more skin in the game than Sony (FOX) Studios will ever have

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

I agree with most of this post, but the thing is, Marvel has black characters. Not in limited numbers i might add. Its almost a pretty good representation of the country demographics. They refuse to give any of them screen time bar War Machine though. Instead they do weird stuff like change the race of Johnny Storm. They gonna change Sue's race too?

Remember its not Marvel, its FOX or Sony

 

[jackswstd]

If Sue isn't black as well do we assume Johnny will be adopted?

 

[daze23]

Sue's invisible. problem solved

 

[Malik]

Wire to FNL to Human Torch

That's my drug dealing quarterback

Wallace got shot three times but, was resuscitated at John Hopkins hospital. Was sneaked out of Baltimore to East Dillon, Texas to live with his crack addict mother who abandoned him years ago in Maryland. Became a star quarterback at his new high school Parlayed that into a football scholarship at a SEC college Graduated with a degree and became a Hollywood actor All while Stringer, the man who ordered his hit, got murdered, Bodie got shot in the head and Poot ended up a cashier at Footlocker. Karma

 

[K-ZOE]

If Sue isn't black as well do we assume Johnny will be adopted?

Or Sue is.

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

Or Sue is.

Reed gonna be Swirlin