The Hill's 'Rising' / 'Breaking Points with Krystal & Saagar' Official Thread

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The misnomer is they want an entire socialist economy. No one on the left is advocating for that just some nice things every other 1st world nation has like healthcare, child care, higher wages, less war.

Sure and they highlight what they want by critiquing what is currently here. No matter how you slice it it still looks like your talking out of both sides of your mouth talking about the negative aspects of capitalism while using a tax haven and a bullshyt LLC to avoid taxes.
 

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Sure and they highlight what they want by critiquing what is currently here. No matter how you slice it it still looks like your talking out of both sides of your mouth talking about the negative aspects of capitalism while using a tax haven and a bullshyt LLC to avoid taxes.
Are we going by facts or how things look? If you aren't a 100% capitalist and like any part or type of the social safety net measures and you do anything to help get yourself ahead you're a hypocrite. Leaves little room for anyone to be anything but a hypocrite.
 

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requiring pay to do work is fine. labor should be compensated. going out of your way to avoid taxes is a bad look, however.
I can agree with that but really the culture of paying as little taxes as possible is very ingrained in the U.S. Doesn't make it right but she's not unusual by avoiding paying taxes.
 

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I can agree with that but really the culture of paying as little taxes as possible is very ingrained in the U.S. Doesn't make it right but she's not unusual by avoiding paying taxes.
not about unusual. if her populism is left leaning, she needs to support the public good and progressive redistribution through the tax code
 

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not about unusual. if her populism is left leaning, she needs to support the public good and progressive redistribution through the tax code
Like I said I agree but if she's not a tax cheat how outraged can we be? Improve the laws on the books.
 

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Like I said I agree but if she's not a tax cheat how outraged can we be? Improve the laws on the books.
there are degrees. it isnt the end of the world, but it isnt great for someone of her persuasion on a show where she explicitly represents a particular side of an economic argument. it's like cenk with the anti-union behavior, or majority report not having diversity. it isnt outrageous, but it isnt helping their cause either. nothing wrong with being honest about somebody you otherwise agree with. afterall, this is what we do to centrist libs all damn day.
 

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there are degrees. it isnt the end of the world, but it isnt great for someone of her persuasion on a show where she explicitly represents a particular side of an economic argument. it's like cenk with the anti-union behavior, or majority report not having diversity. it isnt outrageous, but it isnt helping their cause either. nothing wrong with being honest about somebody you otherwise agree with. afterall, this is what we do to centrist libs all damn day.
Do we tho? I don't like Joy Reid, Don Lemon or Wolf Blitzer but it's on the merits of their broadcast. I'm not digging into their finances and seeing how much they make, what they paid in taxes or what charities they donated to. It's not that deep to me. I judge them on their broadcast that's it.
 

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Do we tho? I don't like Joy Reid, Don Lemon or Wolf Blitzer but it's on the merits of their broadcast. I'm not digging into their finances and seeing how much they make, what they paid in taxes or what charities they donated to. It's not that deep to me. I judge them on their broadcast that's it.
people dug into joy reid's homophobia. don lemon and wolf are not really tied to any political positions, so that is not a great example. the point is, you dont need to defend this woman to the death. she is flawed and that is just how it is. jesus.
 

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people dug into joy reid's homophobia. don lemon and wolf are n
ot really tied to any political positions, so that is not a great example. the point is, you dont need to defend this woman to the death. she is flawed and that is just how it is. jesus.
Don is definitely a neoliberal.
Not to the death just the latest attacks. lol
 

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This is how The Right feels about Saagar on "Rising" too. That he's a cuck to Krystal & he never pushes back on her talking points.

This goes back to my question, who is the audience for "Rising"? Because it ain't a right-wing channel either. Compared to the YouTube shows/podcasts that are co-hosted by Rising's right-wing guests ("Federalist TV" - Emily Jashinsky, "The NatCon Squad" - Rachel Bovard & Emily Jashinsky, "TAC Right Now" -Ryan Girdusky, & etc.) "Rising" is to the left of those shows.

She really said Saagar Carlson agrees with her on 70% of the issues. :mjlol:

They rarely talk about social/cultural issues (other than to clown & downplay them), which is what divides the Populist-Right & Populist-Left the most. Because of that it might seem like they agree on the overwhelming majority of issues. Immigration is 1 issue I've noticed Krystal & Saagar disagree on big time.

"Rising" did segment today that showed the difference between Saagar & Emily:



Emily Jashinsky breaks down who is responsible for the ongoing culture war.


Saagar would've never done a "Radar" segment like this because him & Krystal usually just clown & downplay cultural issues instead. This "Radar" segment might as well been an episode of The Federalist TV YouTube channel or a segment from "The NatCon Squad".
 
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