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Religion is used as a smokescreen for the consolidation of land, the means of production *People* and resources into the hands of a few. If its not religion they'll just go in there and say *this is mine, and so are your women and children*. Its not religion so much as tools men use, for power.

That's an assertion without any correlating evidence. What we do know is that those people have indicated that their religious beliefs have inspired them to act in a certain way: to destroy or maim those of differing beliefs. I'm not a mind reader, and neither are you. If a certain group keep indicating that a certain ideology is their inspiration for acting in a certain, I'm going to take their word for it. That, most definitely, applies in the India/Pakistan conflict.

Many discoveries that you take for granted were founded by religious men.

I know that. Many discoveries that you take for granted were found by atheists. It, however, neither addresses nor rebutts the claim that "religion holds Black people back". Not that the onus is on you to prove the assertion, just to point out that's the line of argument that has led us here. I haven't commented on what religious people may or may not have invented.

You're really need to better understand the difference between good people and demonic filth, friend.

Demonic filth? I don't understand what that means. Care to explain the difference, as well?
 

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In a debate, religion shouldn't be used (unless of course it is an in-religion debate), but other than that I don't see anything wrong with people being religious.

I'm not religious myself, but I would consider myself spiritual. Nothing inherently wrong with either.

And atheists are just as bad as religious folks with their faith. They are both believing in (or not believing in) something without any evidence.

Agnosticism :blessed:
 

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That's an assertion without any correlating evidence. What we do know is that those people have indicated that their religious beliefs have inspired them to act in a certain way: to destroy or maim those of differing beliefs. I'm not a mind reader, and neither are you. If a certain group keep indicating that a certain ideology is their inspiration for acting in a certain, I'm going to take their word for it. That, most definitely, applies in the India/Pakistan conflict.



I know that. Many discoveries that you take for granted were found by atheists. It, however, neither addresses nor rebutts the claim that "religion holds Black people back". Not that the onus is on you to prove the assertion, just to point out that's the line of argument that has led us here. I haven't commented on what religious people may or may not have invented.



Demonic filth? I don't understand what that means. Care to explain the difference, as well?
Right now you're trying to destroy and maim my mind because i have different beliefs from you. If catering to the Devil is your thing, why not just do that and let friends over here that worship God and the power of good do what we do. You're a missionary for the devil right now and you havnt shown why this is a good thing for the world or what every single person not believing in God will accomplish for the world that can be written into a tangible thought, friend.

I mean for you to say religion is holding people back compared to atheism you have to give examples that people can have mind altering revelations to. History doesnt show the benefits because people that are inspired by demons whether they be religious or atheists have done horrible things in the world.

The end game for your thoughts is a better more utopian world as a result of everyone in the world no longer believing in God. Im sorry but if i had to put myself in the mindframe of an atheist, id say this is the fairy tale you accuse me of believing in friend. :heh:

Its so demonic. :sitdown:
 

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There is only one way to get everyone in the world to no longer believe in a creator, and even then it will be incredibly impossible. Death murder and destruction of all culture and everything they know but because atheism lends itself to no rigid moral code, demonic filth will always present itself to inspire friends to pray to our God who created all things.

Even scientists put forth a study that showed its Natural for people to believe in God. Why do what isnt natural, friends. :ufdup:
 

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Yea but but alot of killers have been Christian 2 friend.
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And a lot of killers have been Muslims, friend.

Also you shouldn't try to divide the religion up like that. It's not becoming of a practicing Muslim, friend
 
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Right now you're trying to destroy and maim my mind because i have different beliefs from you. If catering to the Devil is your thing, why not just do that and let friends over here that worship God and the power of good do what we do.
:russ: Your hyperbole is pleasing. No, really, you're quite witty with it.



You're a missionary for the devil right now and you havnt shown why this is a good thing for the world or what every single person not believing in God will accomplish for the world that can be written into a tangible thought, friend.

I don't believe in a "devil". I've neither indicated not believing in gods "is a good thing for the world" nor that "every single person not believing in God will accomplish [anything] for the world". That's your strawman argument.

I mean for you to say religion is holding people back compared to atheism you have to give examples that people can have mind altering revelations to. History doesnt show the benefits because people that are inspired by demons whether they be religious or atheists have done horrible things in the world.

The differences in customs and ideology, after the people discover the death of their gods is something of a guide. Ultimately, it depends on the people: in light of their culture and history.

The end game for your thoughts is a better more utopian world as a result of everyone in the world no longer believing in God. Im sorry but if i had to put myself in the mindframe of an atheist, id say this is the fairy tale you accuse me of believing in friend. :heh:

Its so demonic. :sitdown:

I haven't accused you of anything. Your initial hyperbole was amusing. This latter one: not so much. I don't believe in the possibility of a Utopia, so toss any arguments with that trope that you've made up on my behalf in the strawman bushes, too.

So, India/Pakistan? Religion holding back Black people? I mean the latter claim is worth looking at, no? I don't agree with it, but on the face of it, I'd say it's worth a good look. It could potentially offer a wealth of information.
 

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I'm convinced that alot of these people are trolls, it just seems impossible to me. Or maybe it isn't, everything is done up big on Thecoli.
 
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