The guide to arguing with the religious mental midgets on here

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

I agree I'm just stating that the black masses did not simply follow Christianity and church like people think...they went against the church when it came to lynching, black power, and urban rebellion alot...its more complex than just saying religion holds blacks back

Yes the black masses did and still do follow Christianity

 

[Elle Driver]

so what do u beleive in??

Nothing.

 

[kp404]

Yes the black masses did and still do follow Christianity

You missed the point of my quote, u need to read it again; its not that hard to see what I was saying relation to your claim :comeonstarks:

 

[Mr. Pink]

Nah I mean, you should read more about atheists killing in the name of atheism. I already spoke on Stalin:



Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. He followed the position that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[97]

Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938.[98][99] During World War II, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic organization, and thousands of parishes were reactivated until a further round of suppression during Khrushchev's rule. The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.

Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed and persecuted. Many religions popular in ethnic regions of the Soviet Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Baptists, Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism underwent ordeals similar to that which the Orthodox churches in other parts of the country suffered: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and other religious buildings were razed. Stalin had a different policy outside the Soviet Union; he supported the Communist Uyghur Muslim separatists under Ehmetjan Qasim in the Ili Rebellion against the Anti Communist Republic of China regime. He supplied weapons to the Uyghur Ili army and Red Army support against Chinese forces, and helped them establish the Second East Turkestan Republic of which Islam was the official state religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

I don't claim to know Stalin's mind, but I personally doubt he gave a fig about religion or atheism. The reason he persecuted religious people/institutions was the same reason he persecuted the intelligentsia: they were a potential rival for power, and so they were dangerous.

Communism requires one be blindly loyal to the system above all else, but a religious man is supposed to be loyal to god above all else. A man can't have two masters.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Your hyperbole is pleasing. No, really, you're quite witty with it.





I don't believe in a "devil". I've neither indicated not believing in gods "is a good thing for the world" nor that "every single person not believing in God will accomplish [anything] for the world". That's your strawman argument.



The differences in customs and ideology, after the people discover the death of their gods is something of a guide. Ultimately, it depends on the people: in light of their culture and history.



I haven't accused you of anything. Your initial hyperbole was amusing. This latter one: not so much. I don't believe in the possibility of a Utopia, so toss any arguments with that trope that you've made up on my behalf in the strawman bushes, too.

So, India/Pakistan? Religion holding back Black people? I mean the latter claim is worth looking at, no? I don't agree with it, but on the face of it, I'd say it's worth a good look. It could potentially offer a wealth of information.

No offense like popsicle stick jokes friend, but you arent really selling friends on this whole atheism bag. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO HUMANITY??!?! that results in them no longer being held back. Held back from what exactly. I mean heck friend, we dont have water based engines in our cars because Christians dont believe in Technosorcery here. Lets be honest about this. I think atheism is just a snide belief held by contrarians who need someone to talk to. They arent progressive and dont help humanity. Basically atheism, friend is the intellectuals way of troling. Something like a hater mane, its so demonic, friend.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Its holding everybody back because your knowledge is limited.

Really so there arent christians in all areas of knowledge that know more then you do friend? I think you something like a hater mane

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If I put a poster on ignore does that mean I can't see their threads either?

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Nah I mean, you should read more about atheists killing in the name of atheism. I already spoke on Stalin:



Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. He followed the position that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[97]

Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938.[98][99] During World War II, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic organization, and thousands of parishes were reactivated until a further round of suppression during Khrushchev's rule. The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.

Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed and persecuted. Many religions popular in ethnic regions of the Soviet Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Baptists, Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism underwent ordeals similar to that which the Orthodox churches in other parts of the country suffered: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and other religious buildings were razed. Stalin had a different policy outside the Soviet Union; he supported the Communist Uyghur Muslim separatists under Ehmetjan Qasim in the Ili Rebellion against the Anti Communist Republic of China regime. He supplied weapons to the Uyghur Ili army and Red Army support against Chinese forces, and helped them establish the Second East Turkestan Republic of which Islam was the official state religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

Atheism is only not believing in god.
It is not a system.
He didn't kill people because he didn't believe in god.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Atheism is only not believing in god.
It is not a system.
He didn't kill people because he didn't believe in god.

Did you even read what was written?

His atheism made him promote his anti-religious stance, persecution of religious folks, and yes, his killing of individuals based on their religious beliefs.

So yes, one can easily argue that he killed people because he didn't believe in god

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Really so there arent christians in all areas of knowledge that know more then you do friend? I think you something like a hater mane

Believing a invisible magician made man out of dust and took his rib to make a woman means you're limited.
When we start dealing with biology that makes Christians stop there because it contradicts their beliefs.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Did you even read what was written?

His atheism made him promote his anti-religious stance, persecution of religious folks, and yes, his killing of individuals based on their religious beliefs.

So yes, one can easily argue that he killed people because he didn't believe in god

No he disagreed with the religious belief.
He ain't say HMM WELL SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD AND THEY DO, LEMME KILL THEM

 

[Ciggavelli]

No he disagreed with the religious belief.
He ain't say HMM WELL SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD AND THEY DO, LEMME KILL THEM

Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. He followed the position that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[97]

Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938

You really don't like reading

 

[KOOL-AID]

Nothing.

so ur an athiest

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

If I put a poster on ignore does that mean I can't see their threads either?

Yes. You'll still be notified if they quote you, but you won't be able to see what they post unless you press a button to do so.
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[kp404]

You really don't like reading

No he doesn't.