The greatest Spider-Man movie ever made was a video game (Spoilers for PS4 game)

[Mortal1]

His terrible Marvel has him there to o prop up “Mr Stark”, he was great in Civil War but the decline came fast.

Tom Holland is way too dependent on Stark and the MCU for me to even put him over Tobey honestly he hasn't shown he could handle shyt on his own.

Spoiler

Dude legitimately gave up world-conquering weapons to a guy he just met. Come on man shyt is beyond stupid.

 

[OmegaK2099]

It was on par with the Arkham games Breh.

Arkham>>>>

I feel they tried to make shyt look too real in spiderman, Arkham felt like it's own universe

His grandma just died Breh have a heart.

Aunt

 

[Ironman]

Arkham>>>>

I feel they tried to make shyt look too real in spiderman, Arkham felt like it's own universe


Aunt

He's talking about @Mr. Brown losing his grandmother bruh

 

[OmegaK2099]

He's talking about @Mr. Brown losing his grandmother bruh

I was talking about Aunt May

 

[Mr. Brown]

My condolences breh, hope you and the family are good? Yeah that scene is extremely powerful the voice acting is amazing especially from the voice actor playing Peter. The trembling in his voice as he says “I don’t know what to do” it also reverberates the theme of with great power comes great responsibility the one life sacrificed for the many. And when he tells him to take off his mask because she wants to see her nephew it just breaks you down.

Thanks breh. It’s been a little over a year at this point so time has helped.

I wasn’t trying to derail the thread though, just stating how the ending had a little extra meaning for me and others that may have gone through similar situations before

 

[RennisDeynolds]

You thought soft ass toby Mcguire was better? Or puny ass skateboarding garfield?

Tom already took the spotlight from them. Hes an avenger and has played spiderman 5 times already. When people look back they're going to think of tom, and fondly remember spiderman 2 mostly bc of dr octopus

Even the goat stan lee spoke highly of tom, that kid is doing it right

Spidey 2 was crack, the train scene is one of the best superhero scenes ever. Stop kissing tom holland ass

 

[OmegaK2099]

Garfield was perfect, it was just unfortunate he had to be in horrible movies

 

[MischievousMonkey]

I feel you. It was one of the greatest transcript of Spider-Man on screen. You can tell fans were working on the project because they understood everything about the character and his environment. Watching their interviews and the light they had in their eyes when talking about their project... shyt, you even make me want to play it right again now.

The media (videogame) might also have something to do with our appreciation of the story.

The first two opus of Raimi's trilogy and Spider-Man Homecoming and Far from Home are still dope though, and on top of the chart.

Never watched Into the Spiderverse, because I was salty (still am) about how the first time we see Miles Morales - a black Spidey - on screen, is when everybody is Spider-Man.

 

[SunZoo]

FFH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I understand why adult Spidey is more interesting to some people, but Sony botched it...respect the fukking process.

Tom Holland is way too dependent on Stark and the MCU for me to even put him over Tobey honestly he hasn't shown he could handle shyt on his own.

Spoiler

Dude legitimately gave up world-conquering weapons to a guy he just met. Come on man shyt is beyond stupid.

I hate this argument, it's almost like these nikkas are so used to Sony fukking up shyt and shoe horning stuff in that they don't understand how delicate of a process it was (and still is) to integrate Spiderman into the MCU. shyt they tried their damnedest to get the Garfield version of the character in movies with the Avengers...



The idea that he is to be fully fledged Spidey standing on his own two at this point in the game wouldn't even make sense outside of MCU continuity let alone within it where you have to explain where/why he came from and ends up in the Avengers movie.

A 15 year old being naive, selfish and shirking responsibility of any kind, especially the kind that was left to him is right in line with what an actual 15 year old would do.

Spoiler

Most importantly, it forces him OUT of being Iron Man Jr. with all this dangerous advanced tech of Tony's to make his own more suited for his needs. This is exactly what people bytch about the most yet they don't appreciate the build up to what they say they want.

 

[papertrail08]

I never laid out any logic, i simply stated facts. The way they brang spiderman into the MCU was perfect and him and tony starks relationship had a great arc and an emotional impact that you cannot find in any other spiderman movie besides uncle ben dying in the first toby movie

Facts? You come across as an stan, especially when you brought up that politically correct ass Stan Lee interview . The Iron Man stuff was the worse part of this version of Spider-Man and it took away from his movies. In the comics, Peter Parker started out as a hero who just so happens to be a High School student. The early comics never shackled him down and made him follow orders of other superheroes the way these whack ass MCU movies do because of his age or else he would lose his suit. Tony Stark should've gave Peter his suit as a Thank You gift for helping him in Civil War and that should've been it. I was more invested in Peter and Harry's arc in Spider-Man 1-3 especially when I watch the Editor's Cut of Spider-Man 3. I wasn't a fan of the writing of Peter and Gwen in TASM movies but I would still put that above Tony/Peter as well.

Like it or not, iron man WAS the face of the MCU post 2008, it started with him and ended it with him. The fact that peter was a non factor compared to other seasoned avengers was great as well, it showed his age and maturity which all progressed by the end of far from home. I believe at one point spiderman will be leading the avengers as he gets older and more seasoned. You really expected a newly recruited 17 yr old peter parker to take on thanos? It was a great experience for him and its only going to make him better. Sam jackson said it best "bytch please, you been to space!!"...spidey is only going up going forward

The only reason I said he was a non factor in those movies is because you tried to used push this false narrative that Tom took the spotlight and made everybody forget about Tobey due to the amount of times he's played Spider-Man and the fact that he was in those two Avengers movies as if he had a huge role, he didn't. Those movies still would've made money with or without him. Endgame was the MCU's peak, I highly doubt most people are going to be checking for future Avengers movies like they were with the first four movies.

And yep, 10 years from now most people are only going to remember the spiderman that showed up in civil war, infinity war, endgame and his own set of spiderman movies. Espicially the newer generation, although they will also most likely get a miles morales

So have people forgotten about Christopher Reeve's Superman and Michael Keaton's Batman after all the different versions/actors we have gotten of those two characters over the years? No. Tobey's Spider-Man movies were a big deal and still is a bigger deal than the Spider-Man movies that have came after it (Homecoming and Far From Home included). Stop acting as if the Spider-Man franchise was Punisher, 90s Captain America or Daredevil status before the MCU reboot.

 

[Mortal1]

FFH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I understand why adult Spidey is more interesting to some people, but Sony botched it...respect the fukking process.





I hate this argument, it's almost like these nikkas are so used to Sony fukking up shyt and shoe horning stuff in that they don't understand how delicate of a process it was (and still is) to integrate Spiderman into the MCU. shyt they tried their damnedest to get the Garfield version of the character in movies with the Avengers...



The idea that he is to be fully fledged Spidey standing on his own two at this point in the game wouldn't even make sense outside of MCU continuity let alone within it where you have to explain where/why he came from and ends up in the Avengers movie.

A 15 year old being naive, selfish and shirking responsibility of any kind, especially the kind that was left to him is right in line with what an actual 15 year old would do.

Spoiler

Most importantly, it forces him OUT of being Iron Man Jr. with all this dangerous advanced tech of Tony's to make his own more suited for his needs. This is exactly what people bytch about the most yet they don't appreciate the build up to what they say they want.

That shyt is stupid man stop it Steve Ditko era Spider-Man was not naive and stupid like that. You don’t have to make him a fukking dope for him to be inexperienced. They took the Everyman quality away from Spider-Man making him that dependent on Stark tech and stark as a whole.

 

[papertrail08]

FFH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I understand why adult Spidey is more interesting to some people, but Sony botched it...respect the fukking process.





I hate this argument, it's almost like these nikkas are so used to Sony fukking up shyt and shoe horning stuff in that they don't understand how delicate of a process it was (and still is) to integrate Spiderman into the MCU. shyt they tried their damnedest to get the Garfield version of the character in movies with the Avengers...



The idea that he is to be fully fledged Spidey standing on his own two at this point in the game wouldn't even make sense outside of MCU continuity let alone within it where you have to explain where/why he came from and ends up in the Avengers movie.

A 15 year old being naive, selfish and shirking responsibility of any kind, especially the kind that was left to him is right in line with what an actual 15 year old would do.

Spoiler

Most importantly, it forces him OUT of being Iron Man Jr. with all this dangerous advanced tech of Tony's to make his own more suited for his needs. This is exactly what people bytch about the most yet they don't appreciate the build up to what they say they want.

He shouldn't have been Iron Man Jr in the first place. Peter Parker is smart and uses his intelligence to get himself out of dangerous situations. It shouldn't take him YEARS to do this and it really shouldn't take him years to be a full fledge Spider-Man. In his first issue, Peter's first heroic moment was him saving Jameson's son from a malfunctioning capsule in mid air. He was still in High School at that point. The MCU has no excuses for watering him down the way they have.

 

[Mortal1]

He shouldn't have been Iron Man Jr in the first place. Peter Parker is smart and uses his intelligence to get himself out of dangerous situations. It shouldn't take him YEARS to do this and it really shouldn't take him years to be a full fledge Spider-Man. In his first issue, Peter's first heroic moment was him saving Jameson's son from a malfunctioning capsule in mid air. He was still in High School at that point. The MCU has no excuses for watering him down the way they have.

Dudes be favoring what works for the MCU over what’s best for essence of the character. I say this a fan of the two MCU spider movies

 

[papertrail08]

Dudes be favoring what works for the MCU over what’s best for essence of the character. I say this a fan of the two MCU spider movies

But they never give that same leniency to other non-MCU studios that make CBMs when they take liberties with the source material even if it works with the movie they're trying to tell.

 

[SunZoo]

He shouldn't have been Iron Man Jr in the first place.

He had to be, to do what was needed to integrate him into the MCU, give me a better storyline that lands him in the middle of Civil War without his little "internship". It was the most logical way to handle things.

That shyt is stupid man stop it Steve Ditko era Spider-Man was not naive and stupid like that. You don’t have to make him a fukking dope for him to be inexperienced. They took the Everyman quality away from Spider-Man making him that dependent on Stark tech and stark as a whole.

You can't be "everyman" and be headlining in the Avengers homie lol, that's the big time.The predicament he's in now does exactly what you want, reduce him from space crusader with connections to someone who is isolated, vulnerable and forced to innovate his own tech. That's what we all want...what I don't get is how people expected him to START there giving the task of bringing him into the MCU. Every "Iron man Jr." argument negates