The Grahm Delusion: Building Drake, Hiding Aubrey and Why Reneging on TIDAL exposes the fraud.

[Surreal]

so at least metaphorically, you agree that a big part of his success is based off of deception?

Of course but we all knew that. So for Jay and others to throw stones now shows how they played themselves

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I shyt on drake wit the best of them, but after best I ever had and so far gone dropped all the artist named in the OP we’re on drake and they benefited from the situation more than him.

Timbaland
A keys
Birdman
Ect.

Only reason i won’t say J is cause off that was a trash song, the only reason it made the album was cause drake was on it.

And can u imagine the amount of features jay turn down, but was cool with being on drake albums cause he knew he was the next big thing.

 

[trillanova]

I shyt on drake wit the best of them, but after best I ever had and so far gone dropped all the artist named in the OP we’re on drake and they benefited from the situation more than him.

Timbaland
A keys
Birdman
Ect.

Only reason i won’t say J is cause off that was a trash song, the only reason it made the album was cause drake was on it.

And can u imagine the amount of features jay turn down, but was cool with being on drake albums cause he knew he was the next big thing.

nah. you can't say they benefitted more than him when they were the ones with a fanbase.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

He was cool with Trey before the deal. You can see him in the Wonder Woman video and they collab'd before that on Replacement Girl.
I wouldn't necessarily say that getting features from underground rappers like Phonte and Elzhi is indicative of anything more than having a Degrassi salary to spend on features and studio time. Lol.

Y’all ignored Rich Boy and Malice...

 

[antiautocorrect]

So if you dance with the devil, do you get mad if he steps on your feet?

so at least metaphorically, you agree that a big part of his success is based off of deception?

Of course but we all knew that. So for Jay and others to throw stones now shows how they played themselves

most people don't. if people really understood he'd be millie vanilly status right now

 

[blizzard man]

So, what other ways do they connect then? Because not one person who opposes his argument has provided an equally thorough explanation of why it's not true. If you look at the points with an objective point of view it's not hard to come to the conclusion he did. Nothing the OP posted is out of the relm of possibilty when considering the history of Hip Hop and Drake.

nothing op posted is out of the realm of possibility, but he never touches on the possibility that drake and his team saw the tidal move as simply bad business once they had done their due diligence.

i think its shytty to give your word to someone then renig, but unless we know the details, any avenue someone would care to dream up, is within the realm of possibility.

with all the stories we hear about tidal issues now, artists not getting played, numbers getting finessed, thats another very possible way to connect those same dots.

everything else op said in the thread, leading up to the tidal stuff, was music industry 101.

 

[trillanova]

now ya'll can have some context.

 

[trillanova]

What I'm saying is that a man who makes his bread from rap music, an African American artform, had an opportunity to side with others like him to legitimize a platform controlled with the benefit of the artist in mind. All the power players in black and white music were ready. However, Drake, after giving his word to Jay, took a payout and sided with the controllers. He didn't JUST sign with Apple, he took the side of the suits and the suits that came before them, that use black music and the artist who create it, until nothing is left but the corpse....and they'll make money off that too. When you don't really come from it and don't respect it enough to understand it or change it, but continue to profit and advance your position because you've mastered ACTING the part, I see exactly why it makes people sick.

full circle.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

OP wrote all that (and it was good FWIW) just for Jay-Z to sell the company to white venture capitalists 2 years later .

Jay himself had no intention of black power or black ownership; he just wanted to use it to Trojan horse himself into more money. Like he does with everything else.

 

[trillanova]

OP wrote all that (and it was good FWIW) just for Jay-Z to sell the company to white venture capitalists 2 years later .

Jay himself had no intention of black power or black ownership; he just wanted to use it to Trojan horse himself into more money. Like he does with everything else.

It was more about Drake's vulturing then it was about Jay. I expected Jay to be a capitalist because that's also who he is.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

It was more about Drake's vulturing then it was about Jay. I expected Jay to be a capitalist because that's also who he is.

Drake is Jay Z greatest disciple and student. He makes all the same moves so idk why yall mad.

People want blind loyalty to Jigga, when he'll take a bag over everything majority of the time

 

[trillanova]

Drake is Jay Z greatest disciple and student. He makes all the same moves so idk why yall mad.

People want blind loyalty to Jigga, when he'll take a bag over everything majority of the time

He ain't gonna recover like Jay tho.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

He ain't gonna recover like Jay tho.

This generation is full of flip floppers and wave riders. They'll go with what's hot at the moment

 

[Still Benefited]

Even better finding this thread in retrospect

 

[trillanova]

B

Even better finding this thread in retrospect

Breh I just realized this thread was made 6 years to the day of the pop out.




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