The GOPs Demographic Problem

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

i dont think thats a given at all the democratic party is also the party of atheists and gay marriage and they stand against charter schools and vouchers

There are a lot of black gays... and Obama is an ardent Christian

Plus charter schools in many ways have reintroduced segregation... how does that help any minority

after obama leaves i think people will start asking questions about things like affirmative action, unions and entitlements, i think a lot of black people will slowly turn like me where i dont really give a fuk about any of these things

You really think so, when nobody has been asking these questions for years? And even if they do start asking question, do you think they are going to run to the party that flat out demonizes the things that helped black people integrate further into American society?

You can call it whatever you want but even now you can here a lot of grumbling in the black community about the democratic party and liberal ideas, I'm predicting that when Obama is gone from the scene those grumblings will get louder

Even if black people start asking legit questions about Democratic policy, you have to be an IDIOT to think they would run to the party that writes us all off as savage welfare monkey criminals in the hopes of seeking better conditions for ourselves. The Dems might be failing us but the Republicans don't even want anything to do with us

bit anyways I disagree that there is demographic time bomb, I think the electorate and the parties will change to keep the 2 parties even

Who is going to switch sides? GOP hates black people. GOP regularly marginalizes women. GOP hates gays. GOP hates immigrants. Low key, GOP hates old people. And they are very vocal about who they hate. Not only that, like I already said they are hugely hypocritical. You don't have to dig deep to see that not only do their policies not make sense, most of them don't practice what they preach. They are just as favoritist as the left, but for a shrinking piece of the population

Dont get me wrong, I am not letting the left off the hook, nor do I even support them at this point, but as far as survival goes they are much better positioned ideologically. You have to be an idiot to not see that.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

There are a lot of black gays... and Obama is an ardent Christian

Plus charter schools in many ways have reintroduced segregation... how does that help any minority


You really think so, when nobody has been asking these questions for years? And even if they do start asking question, do you think they are going to run to the party that flat out demonizes the things that helped black people integrate further into American society?


Even if black people start asking legit questions about Democratic policy, you have to be an IDIOT to think they would run to the party that writes us all off as savage welfare monkey criminals in the hopes of seeking better conditions for ourselves. The Dems might be failing us but the Republicans don't even want anything to do with us


Who is going to switch sides? GOP hates black people. GOP regularly marginalizes women. GOP hates gays. GOP hates immigrants. Low key, GOP hates old people. And they are very vocal about who they hate. Not only that, like I already said they are hugely hypocritical. You don't have to dig deep to see that not only do their policies not make sense, most of them don't practice what they preach. They are just as favoritist as the left, but for a shrinking piece of the population

Dont get me wrong, I am not letting the left off the hook, nor do I even support them at this point, but as far as survival goes they are much better positioned ideologically. You have to be an idiot to not see that.

Yeah, I don't know what twism is talking about. He's speaking for himself and wishfully thinking black people will feel the same way. Black people are not going to the Republican party unless they stop being the party of bigotry, which I don't see happening any time soon.

If Obama's presidency did anything for black people, it's made them pay more attention to politics because of the enthusiasm he sparked. And if people are paying attention, they're not going to vote for the people who are actively trying to disenfranchise them as voters and have spent the last 8 years smearing the first black President with racial attacks.

As long as they're the party that bases their politics around appealing to the white male rage, no black people are voting for them. And lol@the Dems being the party that represents atheists. There isn't one high profile Dem in the country that is an atheist...not openly at least.

 

[Food Mane]

They are so stupid. If they got over the racism and misogyny they would realize that latinos, blacks, and women are the classic right wing demographic for them. Church-going, less likely to have a university education, larger families.

 

[Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson]

Da only way blas will starr votin fuh Repulikins is if dey starr allowing ebt carrs to be use as voting ids.

 

[theworldismine13]

There are a lot of black gays... and Obama is an ardent Christian

what??? what does black gay have to do with anything? im just referring to the fact that on gay issues and religion, black people are conservative

when did obama became an ardent christian?

Plus charter schools in many ways have reintroduced segregation... how does that help any minority

charter schools and vouchers are popular in the black community

why would it matter if kids are segregated as long as kids are learning and parents have options

You really think so, when nobody has been asking these questions for years? And even if they do start asking question, do you think they are going to run to the party that flat out demonizes the things that helped black people integrate further into American society?

nobody is gonna run out an do anything, what i am saying is that democratic party will not look as attractive and democrats will stop getting 90% black vote

just like for years blacks were loyal to republicans because that was the party that ended slavery but they slowly became democrats because the republicans did not look as attractive

Even if black people start asking legit questions about Democratic policy, you have to be an IDIOT to think they would run to the party that writes us all off as savage welfare monkey criminals in the hopes of seeking better conditions for ourselves. The Dems might be failing us but the Republicans don't even want anything to do with us

i dont see why that would matter over the long run, it would matter as much as the fact the fact that the democratic party was once synonymous with the KKK and lynching of black people

Who is going to switch sides? GOP hates black people. GOP regularly marginalizes women. GOP hates gays. GOP hates immigrants. Low key, GOP hates old people. And they are very vocal about who they hate. Not only that, like I already said they are hugely hypocritical. You don't have to dig deep to see that not only do their policies not make sense, most of them don't practice what they preach. They are just as favoritist as the left, but for a shrinking piece of the population

Dont get me wrong, I am not letting the left off the hook, nor do I even support them at this point, but as far as survival goes they are much better positioned ideologically. You have to be an idiot to not see that.

im not sure what your little rant has to do with anything

i think you are confused about the topic, the article is discussing a demographic time bomb, in other words its discussing the future over the next 5-15 years, its not discussing 2012, its about 2020 and beyond

im not saying anything crazy, im simply predicting that there will be shift in voting patterns that will keep the democrats and republicans even

 

[theworldismine13]

Yeah, I don't know what twism is talking about. He's speaking for himself and wishfully thinking black people will feel the same way. Black people are not going to the Republican party unless they stop being the party of bigotry, which I don't see happening any time soon.

If Obama's presidency did anything for black people, it's made them pay more attention to politics because of the enthusiasm he sparked. And if people are paying attention, they're not going to vote for the people who are actively trying to disenfranchise them as voters and have spent the last 8 years smearing the first black President with racial attacks.

As long as they're the party that bases their politics around appealing to the white male rage, no black people are voting for them. And lol@the Dems being the party that represents atheists. There isn't one high profile Dem in the country that is an atheist...not openly at least.

to me it seems like you guys are stuck in 2012, republicans are not any more racist then democrats where 50 years ago and there is no time bomb, 5 years, 10 years or 20 years from now the country will be split down the middle and americans will continue splitting their vote just the way they have been for doing for 100 years

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

to me it seems like you guys are stuck in 2012, republicans are not any more racist then democrats where 50 years ago and there is no time bomb, 5 years, 10 years or 20 years from now the country will be split down the middle and americans will continue splitting their vote just the way they have been for doing for 100 years

I don't even know what you just said, but black voters will not be warming up to the party that's trying to disenfranchise them right now after Obama's term is over. You might, but you don't represent the average black voter.

 

[theworldismine13]

I don't even know what you just said, but black voters will not be warming up to the party that's trying to disenfranchise them right now after Obama's term is over. You might, but you don't represent the average black voter.

and im simply pointing out that 50 years ago the democratic party was the party of the KKK, black lynching and stopping black people for voting and im pointing how things can change radically

and am asserting that that there is no time bomb, in the end the parties will shift to make the republicans and democrats even

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

and im simply pointing out that 50 years ago the democratic party was the party of the KKK, black lynching and stopping black people for voting and im pointing how things can change radically

and am asserting that that there is no time bomb, in the end the parties will shift to make the republicans and democrats even

If you're talking like a generation from now, who knows what the parties will look like so anything is possible. But you said "after Obama leaves" black people will leave the Democrats, and I'm saying that's not happening any time soon. Definitely not in the next few election cycles. The Republican party would have to fundamentally change before they get black voters back.

 

[theworldismine13]

If you're talking like a generation from now, who knows what the parties will look like so anything is possible. But you said "after Obama leaves" black people will leave the Democrats, and I'm saying that's not happening any time soon. Definitely not in the next few election cycles. The Republican party would have to fundamentally change before they get black voters back.

what i said is that after obama leaves a lot of black people will turn away and the democrats will not look as attractive, i never said that there would some type of wholesale turning around

but my overall point is that there is will be no time bomb, in the end things will even out, black voters being less loyal is just one thing

even in this election cycle you could see the amount of young people and black people that supported ron paul, imo what happened and what is happening is that for a lot of black people, young and other minorities obama will and does represent an anti climax and in 2016 and beyond democrats will not have an obama and republicans will bring out a plethora of minority candidates in 2016 especially if they lose in 2012

in the end it will stay even

 

[The Real]

what i said is that after obama leaves a lot of black people will turn away and the democrats will not look as attractive

Why would this happen? What about Obama's presidency will mysteriously change Black voting patterns forever? Your scenario makes it sound like Obama's campaign mysteriously shifted Black peoples' reason for voting Democrat to his race.

 

[theworldismine13]

Why would this happen? What about Obama's presidency will mysteriously change Black voting patterns forever?

because obama's presidency is anti climatic

the question you should be asking is why where so many black people supporting ron paul AFTER obama's election?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

what i said is that after obama leaves a lot of black people will turn away and the democrats will not look as attractive, i never said that there would some type of wholesale turning around

but my overall point is that there is will be no time bomb, in the end things will even out, black voters being less loyal is just one thing

even in this election cycle you could see the amount of young people and black people that supported ron paul, imo what happened and what is happening is that for a lot of black people, young and other minorities obama will and does represent an anti climax and in 2016 and beyond democrats will not have an obama and republicans will bring out a plethora of minority candidates in 2016 especially if they lose in 2012

in the end it will stay even

Not gonna happen for the foreseeable future. Whether it's for better or worse, black people will continue to vote for Democrats at 90% or better for at least the next 3 presidential cycles or so. The average black person who doesn't pay much attention to politics can watch Fox News for 5 minutes and conclude he'll never vote for these guys.

And lol@you citing the amount of young black people that supported Ron Paul as if they are statistically significant.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

because obama's presidency is anti climatic

the question you should be asking is why where so many black people supporting ron paul AFTER obama's election?

lol...who are all these black people who are supporting Ron Paul??? You're going to need more evidence than Meta Reign and Hiphoplives4eva posts to support this claim.

 

[The Real]

the question you should be asking is why where so many black people supporting ron paul AFTER obama's election?

Do you have evidence for the claim that there were "many" Black people supporting Ron Paul, and that their support was contingent upon Obama's presidency?