African Peasant
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Let me be clear : do you want the creation of new countries on the ashes of the actual Nigeria ?
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Let me be clear : do you want the creation of new countries on the ashes of the actual Nigeria ?
African Peasant
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Fascism was dead with Mussolini. Everybody from the left to the right see fascists everywhere.
It's not because you don't like somebody or because he's evil that he's a fascist.
It's not because you don't like somebody or because he's evil that he's a fascist.
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
No. And I've already answered your question when I said this,
"I'm arguing for the dismantling of the present structure of Nigeria's Fourth Republic."
Let me guess, you're a pan-African who's an anti-globalist
African Peasant
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No. And I've already answered your question when I said this,
"I'm arguing for the dismantling of the present structure of Nigeria's Fourth Republic."
Let me guess, you're a pan-African who's an anti-globalist
Wrong.
I'm not a pan-africanist. I don't believe in it. If there is something like panafricanism, it should be limited to a good cooperation between african countries. The idea of a super african country or a super integrated AU is a dangerous illusion.
Your answer is not clear. What do you want ? A new republic with new institutions or do you want the dislocation of Nigeria ?
Cesar Chavez knew what was up too.
I would welcome an end to nationalism and the nation-state.
It will take a while, but I think it's inevitable.
It will take a while, but I think it's inevitable.
What should take it's place? Why is the end of the nationalism inevitable? Seems to be on the rise to me.
Seems like the long term trend is for humans to organize(willingly for the most part) themselves in larger groups over time. We went from small family units, to clans, to tribes, to nation-states. Now we have continental unions like the EU.
In the long run I see a Global government as the next logical step.
I can only speak from a American stand point here.
The working class gains better wages instead of suppressed wages. Word to @theworldismine13 .
The working class benefits from social cohesion that comes with a common language as opposed to a foreign one.
The working also benefits from fewer job competitors.
I don't see what the working classes have to gain, honestly.
1. Wages in America have been stagnant or suppressed for the last 40 years. And most of that had nothing to do with foriegn workers taking national jobs. Also the Advent of automation may exacerbate the problem. There is no good reason people should be beefing with foreigners over picking fruit gigs in richest country in the world. Oh wait income inequality is worse than the gilded age. People need to work harder.
2. The social cohesion aspect is also faulty. While yes a shared language makes it easier to relate to people it by no means prevents conflict. See America as example
This is kinda moot point anyway as different human languages gonna be looked at as cultural quirks in the face of real time translators. Give it twenty years. Jobs ain't gonna need to ask for proficiency in a foriegn language when you can wear a necklace that translates it.
3 This last point is true. Don't get it twisted I am a true believer in the free market and capitalism. Not crony capitalism though. That shyts disgusting
As long as you got regulations to give people a living wage and stop unreasonable working conditions. We all good. I can't fault a business for wanting to hire more qualified people.
Globalism as a concept is the only way forward for humanity at large though. As the challenges faced expand in scope such as a ever expanding human population, global warming, and development of increasingly deadly technology. People are gonna have to face these issues on a global scale.
Or kill off a massive segment of the population every couple hundred of years while not managing to Nuke us into a extinction event
Red Shield
Global Domination
Well he damn sure wasn't wrong about that..
African Peasant
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I can only speak from a American stand point here.
1. Wages in America have been stagnant or suppressed for the last 40 years. And most of that had nothing to do with foriegn workers taking national jobs. Also the Advent of automation may exacerbate the problem. There is no good reason people should be beefing with foreigners over picking fruit gigs in richest country in the world. Oh wait income inequality is worse than the gilded age. People need to work harder.
2. The social cohesion aspect is also faulty. While yes a shared language makes it easier to relate to people it by no means prevents conflict. See America as example
This is kinda moot point anyway as different human languages gonna be looked at as cultural quirks in the face of real time translators. Give it twenty years. Jobs ain't gonna need to ask for proficiency in a foriegn language when you can wear a necklace that translates it.
3 This last point is true. Don't get it twisted I am a true believer in the free market and capitalism. Not crony capitalism though. That shyts disgusting
Globalism as a concept is the only way forward for humanity at large though. As the challenges faced expand in scope such as a ever expanding human population, global warming, and development of increasingly deadly technology. People are gonna have to face these issues on a global scale.
Or kill off a massive segment of the population every couple hundred of years while not managing to Nuke us into a extinction event
America has a racial problem. It's easier to unite the working class where there is homogeneity. It's sad but in a multicultural country, it's nearly impossible. Any attempt to unify the working class will fail because of racial tensions. In this context, it's almost impossible for the working class to have the same power it had in some countries in the 19th century.
Also, they started shipping jobs to China 40 years ago. Once again it's the issue of borders.
And I don't see how a single governing body would be established on the planet without massive violence.
I don't think it's a race problem as much as it is a xenophobia of the "other" and a complacency with the situation. Brexiters had a lot of white people blaming other immigrant white people for economic woes. America did it with the Irish and Italians back in the day. I remember seeing a thread a few weeks ago of South Africans shytting on Nigerians working of there. Even countries like a Japan and South Korea with almost completely homogeneous population have begun to see stark class divisions. None of these people have stopped their elite class from robbing them blind yet. Everyone still to worried about the rat race. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
As far as shipping jobs to China. Your right. All I am saying is you shouldn't be freely moving jobs and resources to other countries without people having the ability to follow and compete for those jobs and resources. When those Chinese start undercutting folks and the Malaysian working from slave wages makes people compete for that bullshyt job one of two things gonna happen. Either everybody gonna be cool with it like they are now. Or people gonna realize 8 families owning half the world (probably gonna be like 80percent before something happens) while they scrapping like a slave ain't how they want to live.
Your extremely correct about the belief in massive violence. Most human history is propelled by violence. It was always just a matter of scale. It is my personal belief that with ever advancing technology a world government is a inevitability. By the end of WWIV I fully expect a nation or group to have the logistical ability to control the world and establish a hegemony. I only hope that such a group interests after they obtain the power are thing like FTL travel, terra forming the solar system, quantum physics, advanced A.I., and digitized human thought. Man I went on a tangent
The Wall Is Undefeated!
Superstar
Indeed.
There's nothing wrong with immigration. However, many who have fallen for the BS of the global elite masters are deluding themselves into thinking that no borders helps the working class (and small businesses). It doesn't. What truly helps the working class in any country is when their own governments focus on them.
Globalism/Global Elitism = The aim to make a one world government controlled by mega corporations and powerful elite politicians that would be extremely totalitarian and feudal in nature (high surveillance, 'papers please', every aspect of our daily lives controlled and harshly enforced), on the false promises of 'world peace', 'advanced technology' and 'exploring the stars'.
As of today 15th Sept 2021, we are already in a proto form of it as the governed are praising big pharma and demanding that we don't ask questions about it.
Anybody that thinks that the above paragraph is a good idea is complete and utterly deluded.
The Wall Is Undefeated!
Superstar
The Wall Is Undefeated!
Superstar
At the bolded part - This is partially true. However, this process also happens in reverse as well. Many former states, empires, nations etc have broken up and became smaller entities throughout history.
A global government is a logical step. But:
1. Same with the reverse.
2. It doesn't mean that it'll be inevitable.
3. don't think for one second that it'll be benevolent.