The Ghettos Tryin To Kill Me!>>>Ice Cream Man

[bigbadbossup2012]

& swizz beatz is one of my the all time best producers right?
& master ps top 10 doa right?
Shyt is Comedy Central dawg

I don't get it

 

[Xtz23]

I don't get it

u claimed those things in other threads.

 

[JustCKing]

1) Since when was Young Buck pushed as a Top Southern MC. Don't get me wrong, Buck was dope and his first album showed promised, but being on G-Unit hurt him.

2) No Limit was shoved down the throats of the masses. It was more subtle. How was No Limit shoved down the throats of the masses? If you liked a Master P song or copped an album, you more than likely sat through or skipped a verse from an artist you didn't like. Each album and a lot of times the singles cross promoted artists. Then you had two page spreads in magazines for lesser known artists. Ghetto Commission even had their own TV ad. If you bought a No Limit, you were subjected to artists you may or not have liked, but had to listen to or skip their parts completely.

 

[mobbinfms]

this is normal standard stuff that tons of artists have done, and nobody ever gets criticized for it.

theres been numerous occasions where 2pac himself used the same sample as someone else around the same time. is he a biter too?

he didn't steal anything from Aaliyah or kenya gruv. the samples were cleared, and that fedz joint was what you would call an answer record to the Aaliyah song.

absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.




hell on earth is overrated.

its too weary & repetitive to compete with ice cream man, ghetto d or their own infamous album.

and theres not much entertainment or musical value to it, unless youre really big on '90s boom-bap. if youre not, then you could prolly care less about the album.

I have a similar knock against liquid swordz. another album that gets ridiculously overrated by rap purists & '90s boom bap enthusiasts.

u have to really be into that chit. im into it, so i get it. but i can also spot its limitations......as opposed to those master p albums, where master p BROUGHT the masses into the southern hip-hop circuit.





by that logic, why couldn't other labels do what no limit did, if its that simple?

and no limit was independent based. they weren't shoved down our throats. they weren't even on TV/radio all like that. quality product is the only way that they could've built their following breh. it just may not be YOUR cup of tea. I mean, come on man. you think people just went to the store on the regular to buy no limit albums just to do it?

and no, people weren't buying them solely because they were no limit albums. otherwise, everybody would've sold the same.





THIS.

the no limit artists I purchased were all purchases I made for different reasons.

people stay tryna downplay the tank.

That's a lot of typing Breh
I'm gonna respond for real when I get a minute :prodigylol:

 

[mobbinfms]

I don't get the Mobb Deep comparisons here. No Limit and Mobb Deep are two totally different entities. Apples and oranges

That's why I wrote that I'd rather listen to Ghetto D or ICM than any dark/mostly repetitive MD album. And I enjoyed the first 4 MD albums, but all this gat and clap talk gets tiresome. Yeah we get it Prodigy, you got tons of complexes/selfesteem issues and try to live out your violent fantasies on wax, bravo!

Meanwhile P busts his ass to get NL to the top in a MUCH HARDER environment for hiphop, signs some great artists (BBTP, Mia, Mystikal, Fiend, Mac) and succeeds against all odds

The ironing. I'm pretty sure you brought up Mobb Deep first.

 

[Xtz23]

1) Since when was Young Buck pushed as a Top Southern MC. Don't get me wrong, Buck was dope and his first album showed promised, but being on G-Unit hurt him.

2) No Limit was shoved down the throats of the masses. It was more subtle. How was No Limit shoved down the throats of the masses? If you liked a Master P song or copped an album, you more than likely sat through or skipped a verse from an artist you didn't like. Each album and a lot of times the singles cross promoted artists. Then you had two page spreads in magazines for lesser known artists. Ghetto Commission even had their own TV ad. If you bought a No Limit, you were subjected to artists you may or not have liked, but had to listen to or skip their parts completely.

Buck is one of the best out the south I agree he wasn't as big because of the whole game beef but the quality speaks for itself.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Buck is one of the best out the south I agree he wasn't as big because of the whole game beef but the quality speaks for itself.

I like Buck but cmon breh, you acting like Buck would've been popping without 50....hell nikkas wouldn't have even been listening to Buck if G-Unit wasn't on top of the game....same reason why people were listening to No Limit bench warmers

 

[Xtz23]

I like Buck but cmon breh, you acting like Buck would've been popping without 50....hell nikkas wouldn't have even been listening to Buck if G-Unit wasn't on top of the game....same reason why people were listening to No Limit bench warmers

What I'm saying dawg is that buck was skilled i don't listen to benchwarmers on any label. You could def say that bout yayo but not buck. The formula worked buck was great on those gunit beats and he made classic records. master ps more known for his business then his rapping skills. Master ps more of an entertainer then a rapper. I like master p he had some good songs but these is facts breh.

Buck had it before gunit that's y 50 cut the check.

I see ur point too because most either slept on buck or they forgot about him but he's definately one of the goat south guys to "me".

Top 5 personal south no order
-1 scarface (king of the south and top 10 all time)
-ugk
- 8ball mjg
-juvenile
- young buck

 

[REAL6]

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

What I'm saying dawg is that buck was skilled i don't listen to benchwarmers on any label. You could def say that bout yayo but not buck. The formula worked buck was great on those gunit beats and he made classic records. master ps more known for his business then his rapping skills and that's facts breh. Master ps more of an entertainer then a rapper.

Buck had it before gunit that's y 50 cut the check.

I see ur point too because most either slept on buck or they forgot about him but he's definately one of the goat south guys to me.

Top 5 south no order
-1 scarface (king of the south and top 10 all time)
-ugk
- 8ball mjg
-juvenile
- young buck

Pardon me I had to laugh at bolded

Buck was a weed carrier for Juvenile and UTP and basically abandoned before 50 threw that lifeline and rescued him. Let's not make up shyt now

This MF said Young Buck is top 5 from the South

Is he even Top 5 in the state of Tennessee

 

[Xtz23]

Pardon me I had to laugh at bolded

Buck was a weed carrier for Juvenile and UTP and basically abandoned before 50 threw that lifeline and rescued him. Let's not make up shyt now

This MF said Young Buck is top 5 from the South

Is he even Top 5 in the state of Tennessee

I'm not denying that gunit played a big role in bucks career no shyt son

all I said is he's in my "personal south list"

but if u guys are saying master p is better fukk off

 

[H.I.M.]

This MF said Young Buck is top 5 from the South

Is he even Top 5 in the state of Tennessee

Put a 0 after the 5 and the answer to both of those would still be NO.

 

[mobbinfms]

this is normal standard stuff that tons of artists have done, and nobody ever gets criticized for it.

It's not normal or standard. Not that it doesn't happen.

theres been numerous occasions where 2pac himself used the same sample as someone else around the same time. is he a biter too?

This is more than using the same sample breh.

and that fedz joint was what you would call an answer record to the Aaliyah song.

We calling it an answer record now?

hell on earth is overrated.

If anything, its underrated.

its too weary & repetitive

It has a cohesive dark sound.

and theres not much entertainment or musical value to it,

Dope beats and rhymes aren't entertaining?
Musical value?
You sounding like a Kendrick stan now
Musically speaking

u have to really be into that chit. im into it, so i get it. but i can also spot its limitations......as opposed to those master p albums, where master p BROUGHT the masses into the southern hip-hop circuit.

That's exactly how I feel about Master P and No Limit
That it was very popular means nothing to me.

by that logic, why couldn't other labels do what no limit did, if its that simple?

Of course not. Its not simple at all. Nobody will ever do what P did again.
But it wasn't a case of him making the best music...he made music that people wanted to get behind and he marketed and branded the hell out of it and then gave us new product every single week.

and no limit was independent based. they weren't shoved down our throats. they weren't even on TV/radio all like that.

Make Em Say Uhh was all over the radio/video.
So was Silkk's shyt the following year.
I completely agree about everything that preceded Ghetto D though. And I also agree that only a few artists from No Limit really got a push.

come on man. you think people just went to the store on the regular to buy no limit albums just to do it?

and no, people weren't buying them solely because they were no limit albums. otherwise, everybody would've sold the same.

Ok. But if they were selling based purely on quality - then the highest selling No Limit albums would also be the best ones. But that's not the case.
At least I don't think.
Prove me wrong.

 

[mobbinfms]

@Wacky D
Just to further clarify. I'm not saying that Master P and No Limit didn't make good music at all. What I'm saying is that they had a quantity over quality approach.

 

[OHSNAP!]

The ironing. I'm pretty sure you brought up Mobb Deep first.

Retard, I just stated I'd rather listen to Ghetto D/ICM/99WTD than HOE/Infamous/MM

That's totally different than comparing P and P as rappers