The Gender Wage Gap Lie

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White women make way more than black males in the same positions with equal qualifications so i have no sympathy for them.

Cosign, Those middle class white feminists are annoying with theyre complaining. They always act like they're the victims when they have it better then pretty much everyone.

In their minds they are the nerds but in reality they're really the jocks
 

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How exactly is it discrimination not to pay women for not working? :patrice: Ya'll got me fukked up with this simp logic. Equality without equal work. No ones stupid enough to fall for that mess. You want the company to subsidize your pregnancy then give you a bonus ontop of that? GTFO here with that mess. This is a classic case of cake eating.
 

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Women do not work over time as much as men do and they care less about being paid a lot compared to men. This is a fact. A lot of women that have potential to make a lot of money marry men that make good money and go into careers such teaching or become stay at home moms. I had two female managers in my department that did just that, both were making good money and quit. Men don't have the luxury to do that.
 

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Having done a lot of research on this, I can say there's still a lot of mystification around it. Unfortunately, a lot of people still parrot the 77 cents thing, despite it having no specificity. On the other hand, there are still many problems. The adjusted wage gap is still almost 10% (at its highest,) which is disturbing, since most of the recent studies, like the CONSAD one, control for almost every variable we can currently manage with our data- with all those controlled, there's no reason for a woman in virtually the same position with the same background as a man to be making that much less money for the same amount of work. More has to be done to see why that still exists. Beyond that, more ignorant folks tend not to focus on social factors that mediate people's choices to enter various careers, and also things like glass ceilings, which are not accurately measured (or measurable) in these studies about the adjusted wage gap. The "liberal" (conservative, libertarian) argument that there couldn't possibly be any social factors that lead to demographic trends in career choice (beyond men being generally physically stronger, or other biological factors) or that those factors shouldn't matter in social analysis is weak as hell. It's the same logic that attempts to cover up racial discrimination by pretending there are no institutional factors that influence, constrain, or enable choices.
Could you link to me to that ConSAD study
 

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Having done a lot of research on this, I can say there's still a lot of mystification around it. Unfortunately, a lot of people still parrot the 77 cents thing, despite it having no specificity. On the other hand, there are still many problems. The adjusted wage gap is still almost 10% (at its highest,) which is disturbing, since most of the recent studies, like the CONSAD one, control for almost every variable we can currently manage with our data- with all those controlled, there's no reason for a woman in virtually the same position with the same background as a man to be making that much less money for the same amount of work. More has to be done to see why that still exists. Beyond that, more ignorant folks tend not to focus on social factors that mediate people's choices to enter various careers, and also things like glass ceilings, which are not accurately measured (or measurable) in these studies about the adjusted wage gap. The "liberal" (conservative, libertarian) argument that there couldn't possibly be any social factors that lead to demographic trends in career choice (beyond men being generally physically stronger, or other biological factors) or that those factors shouldn't matter in social analysis is weak as hell. It's the same logic that attempts to cover up racial discrimination by pretending there are no institutional factors that influence, constrain, or enable choices.

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Here the weekly wage gap was around 18.8% in feb 2015 and has barely improved in 20 yers :why:
 

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How do Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton continue to get away with spreading this falsehood on the campaign trail? I know that liberals have no regard for truth but someone needs to call them out for spreading misinformation to their base of uninformed voters.
 

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This is the lie that needs to keep being told cuz feminists don't want to believe in facts. It's kinda stupid but :yeshrug:. It's practically a necessary lie when going against Hillary.
 

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Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton are blatantly lying because they want women to feel like victims. They want female voters to be scared and fearful and therefore needing big government to protect them.
 

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This is actually where the article falls on its face. Its well documented that once a professional does begin to become highly populated by women workers, the salary dips. This is not a coincidence and has happened in several professions, the most notable of which has been seen in education.



This fails to take into account the different ways in which females and males are viewed for negotiating and how the same tactics in negotiation are viewed when they are done by a male and then when they are done by a female. Women are double bound. Be aggressive and be a bytch and potentially don't get hired or get fired because of your so called 'domineering attitude' or don't be aggressive and get passed over and then ultimately blamed for the fact that you didn't get paid as much as the man who could be aggressive without it counting against him.
As for your first point, you will have to expand on that. For your second point (yeah I'm years late), the study was not meant to give every reason for the gap but to point out that just salary is not the reason. As for negotiating, most of the gap between entry level men and women is attributed to negotiating salary. So I'm well aware of this.

I also don't like the idea of KingPin using my threads to make conservative talking points.
 
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