The Floyd Money Mayweather Jr appreciation thread

[krackdagawd]

A struggle southpaw putting paws on him

Another struggle southpaw in Zab did the same but according to the struggle team Manny is easy work.

 

[TheNig]

his first fight was in 88 lol, of course his rate is gonna be higher I'm just speaking on the complete career

Makes no sense. The needle would be harder to move for a guy with more fights going left or right.

 

[Master Teacher]

Makes no sense. The needle would be harder to move for a guy with more fights going left or right.

Hopins has 60 something professional fights so of course rigo who only has 15 something fights will have a lower percentage

60 something fights at 27% is better than 15 fights at 16%

 

[Newzz]

Hopins has 60 something professional fights so of course rigo who only has 15 something fights will have a lower percentage

60 something fights at 27% is better than 15 fights at 16%

That's not necessarily true, because on the flipside....Rigo (who has only 15 something fights) could have a HIGHER percentage as well if he allowed people to connect on him.


Example, if Hopkins had 60 fights with a 27% connect pct allowed (and his opponents average 500 punches thrown a fight against him over 12 rounds)...and in his 61st fight, allowed his opponent to connect at 50%, Hopkins pct would STILL be at 27% (27.4% to be exact)

Rigo, on the other hand, with 15 fights and a 16% connect pct allowed (with the same amount of total punches thrown at him a fight over 12 rounds...500 punches), in his 16th fight he allowed his opponent to connect at 50%, Rigo's pct would go up to 18% (18.1% to be exact).

That would be an increase of 2.1% for Rigo and only an increase of .4% for Hopkins.


@TheNig is right.

 

[Master Teacher]

That's not necessarily true, because on the flipside....Rigo (who has only 15 something fights) could have a HIGHER percentage as well if he allowed people to connect on him.


Example, if Hopkins had 60 fights with a 27% connect pct allowed (and his opponents average 500 punches thrown a fight against him over 12 rounds)...and in his 61st fight, allowed his opponent to connect at 50%, Hopkins pct would STILL be at 27% (27.4% to be exact)

Rigo, on the other hand, with 15 fights and a 16% connect pct allowed (with the same amount of total punches thrown at him a fight over 12 rounds...500 punches), in his 16th fight he allowed his opponent to connect at 50%, Rigo's pct would go up to 18% (18.1% to be exact).

That would be an increase of 2.1% for Rigo and only an increase of .4% for Hopkins.


@TheNig is right.

15 fights can't compare to 60 in now way shape or form

15 fight from now, rigo could be getting hit more for all we know, the sample size is too small to say hes better than hopkins


If a QB threw 15 passes and connected all 15, would you say he played better than somebody who thew 60 passes and connected 38

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Pull counter
Jab to the body
Granite Chin

 

[#SOG_soldier]

So it's the stat itself it seems?


Now, I believe Floyd is Top 5 DOA in defense as well, but statistics wise, he's not the best today....it's Guillermo Rigondeaux who allows a 16% connect rate on him for his career while Floyd allows an 18% connect rate for his career (as recent as 12/2013 via compubox http://compuboxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/CompuBoxLeaders_Dec2014.pdf).


Defense takes into account not allowing your opponent to hit you, but also your competition (which Floyd has faced great comp) and the punches you can sustain (considering Floyd has never been officially knocked down in his career, I would give him the edge over mostly everyone because his chin is strong and a body shot hasnt taken him down either)


I am on this though, because it's a slippery slope. Going by opponents connection pct to use as a basis for calling someone the greatest, you'd also have to go by total connect pct landed on opponents...which means the top 9 best offensive boxers today are in order Floyd, JCC Jr, Alvarez, Ward, LSC, Khan, Agbeko, Lara, and Lamont Peterson and the most COMPLETE boxers today (+/- on punches landed for them vs landed on them) are Floyd, LSC, Lara, Ward, Canelo, Rigo, Wlad, and Moreno. I dont think anyone would stand behind that statement, but it cant be 1 way without the other

I hate when nikkas just blindly follow stats. open up your fukking eyes and see how embarrassing Pernell made great comp like TITO and Nelson look. I can SEE that both floyd and Pernell are great defensive fighters. fukk I need some overly complicated computer program to tell me that?

 

[Newzz]

I hate when nikkas just blindly follow stats. open up your fukking eyes and see how embarrassing Pernell made great comp like TITO and Nelson look. I can SEE that both floyd and Pernell are great defensive fighters. fukk I need some overly complicated computer program to tell me that?

Sweet Pea is definitely an example of elite defense and was so pretty to watch just BECAUSE of his defensive prowess to me

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Sweet Pea is definitely an example of elite defense and was so pretty to watch just BECAUSE of his defensive prowess to me

Wish I was alive back then?

I use to stan FLOYD and MAnny, but their fanbases are so damn annoying. The only fighters I stan now are Wlad, Danny, AB, and #SOG

 

[Pimp]

Floyd hasn't fought anyone special in 7 years, he's been WINNING TITLES, WHO HASN'T HE BEATEN, he got most of the belts

bytch ass nikkaz like are whats wrong with boxing fans

Floyd's resume is better pernell's but you overlook that, Floyd is older and beats the young guys to prevent them from climbing in stature, pernell couldn't do that, which is why is resume is slim in comparison

And it's not about who he fought, yall said pernell was the best defensive fighter of all time, which he clearly is not, it's blasphemous

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

15 fights can't compare to 60 in now way shape or form

15 fight from now, rigo could be getting hit more for all we know, the sample size is too small to say hes better than hopkins


If a QB threw 15 passes and connected all 15, would you say he played better than somebody who thew 60 passes and connected 38

So you cant compare Floyd to guys like Armstrong, Robinson, Pep etc because Floyd only has 25% of the fights they do. So is Floyd really on their level for being 47 for 47?

 

[Newzz]

So you cant compare Floyd to guys like Armstrong, Robinson, Pep etc because Floyd only has 25% of the fights they do. So is Floyd really on their level for being 47 for 47?

Checkmate?

 

[onelastdeath]

PBF > Money May

 

[L68]

so i assume all master teachers floyd dikkriding posts will be moved here from various thread from now on?

 

[#SOG_soldier]

So you cant compare Floyd to guys like Armstrong, Robinson, Pep etc because Floyd only has 25% of the fights they do. So is Floyd really on their level for being 47 for 47?

This nikka is lost.

Master Dumbass: Numbers say FLOYD is the GOAT

nikkas with common sense: So Rigo>Floyd


Master Dumbass: Numbers dont tell the whole truth. Floyd out here beating champs

nikkas with common sense: Chris A. and Tim were champs when Manny beat them. Use some logic you fukking stan.


Master Dumbass: Where Im going we dont need "logic"


nikkas with common sense: