The Father of Hiphop says you need to check these non blacks using the N word

[truth2you]

i'm literally arguing with functionally retarded muthafukkas

you do know that a REMAKE is a song with the same title and is literally the SAME EXACT SONG...that is the definition of a REMAKE.

this song is 15 years after kool herc's parties - by then the "technique" was cemented in hip hop culture...PRIOR TO 1973, a song like THIS TAKES TWO wouldn't have existed.

HERC is the one who took funk HOOKS and made SONGS out of them...none of you weirdos have posted evidence, interviews, or compelling arguments do disprove this.

okay i'm done for real this time...the arguments just keep getting dumber and dumber though

My fault, I meant the remake of the song to make a hook. My fault!

But the point is the same, you are bypassing so much history, to come to a conclusion, but its not that simple!

And he didn't take hooks, or made songs from them, where did you get this idea from? Do you know how hard it would have been for him to make songs from breaks back then? Even harder, WHILE he's djing? I can really tell you don't dj now! Today you can do that, you are dreaming in 1973! This is why Grandmaster flash is so loved in the dj world, he helped come up with techniques to help you mix fast, and clean! It's because of him rappers were able to start making songs, he allowed the dj to be like a band. When Herc dj'ed, he just threw on songs, you can't rhyme to stuff like that.

this is the break he would have played, and trying to extend. I would give Grandmaster flash that credit, because he invented ways to be fast, and if it weren't for HIM the "it takes two" record may have not been made, BUT samplers were out by then, so it may have happened anyway. Who knows? But I doubt the rapping, and the whole hip hop culture would of happened.

J-rocc does the Lyn Collins break so lovely!:

 

[Booker T Garvey]

@truth2you so you're about the same age as grandmaster caz..
he's telling the history of hip hop right here and he lived in south bronx - you mean to tell me he's 100% wrong? he's lying and making this up!? (please answer just with a yes or a no)



^^^ this is exactly how hundreds of people have remembered it was WAY before the internet and social media; herc invented the concept, bam and flash built on it

 

[truth2you]

@truth2you so you're about the same age as grandmaster caz..
he's telling the history of hip hop right here and he lived in south bronx - you mean to tell me he's 100% wrong? he's lying and making this up!? (please answer just with a yes or a no)



^^^ this is exactly how hundreds of people have remembered it was WAY before the internet and social media; herc invented the concept, bam and flash built on it

You KEEp ignoring one important fact, they were YOUNG TEENAGERS who only telling their story, BUT shyt was being done with older people. Caz even said he was too young to go to the parties, until Herc started doing parks. I don't understand why you gave the link, what did he say that is so different from what I posted.

And listen to who he said was the first "rapper" on the mic who dj'ed. DJ HOLLYWOOD! DJ HOLLYWOOD IS WAY BEFORE CAZ, Coke la rock, and Herc(who didn't rhyme on the mic but fools keep saying it!)

AGAIN, HERC INVENTED THE IDEA OF HAVING A PARTY FOCUSED ON BREAKS, NOT EXTENDING BREAKS, THAT WAS BEING DONE WITH DISCO DJ'S BEFORE HERC STARTED DJING!

 

[Booker T Garvey]

And listen to who he said was the first "rapper" on the mic who dj'ed. DJ HOLLYWOOD! DJ HOLLYWOOD IS WAY BEFORE CAZ, Coke la rock, and Herc(who didn't rhyme on the mic but fools keep saying it!)

this line right here is proof that you cats are editing your own realities and hearing what you want to hear...he said plain as day verbatim: "the first rapper was coke la rock" right at 3:40

(this is also something that many others have said as well)

yet your brain WANTED to hear that DJ HOLLYWOOD - not taking anything away from DJ HOLLYWOOD, but you're WANTING to badly to discredit these dudes for your own selfish reasons ignoring reality

you dudes have been doing this for the entire discussion...its' weird fam and makes no sense....especially to those of us that ain't from NY, maybe you dudes are just more emotional about it

 

[truth2you]

this line right here is proof that you cats are editing your own realities and hearing what you want to hear...he said plain as day verbatim: "the first rapper was coke la rock" right at 3:40

(this is also something that many others have said as well)

yet your brain WANTED to hear that DJ HOLLYWOOD - not taking anything away from DJ HOLLYWOOD, but you're WANTING to badly to discredit these dudes for your own selfish reasons ignoring reality

you dudes have been doing this for the entire discussion...its' weird fam and makes no sense....especially to those of us that ain't from NY, maybe you dudes are just more emotional about it

I have constantly gave credit where its due in my posts, but I want BADLY to discredit these dudes?

And he said Coke La rock because he was inferring Coke La rock didn't dj, he just rhymed on the mic like the average rapper TODAY does. shyt just went over your head!

That is why he would call him the first "rapper", but when you mean rhyming on beat, you heard the name(DJ Hollywood), and he was part of.... that's right "DISCO"!

Man forget it, you just want to believe the fairly tale

Say high to Santa, when you see him next month

 

[IllmaticDelta]

this line right here is proof that you cats are editing your own realities and hearing what you want to hear...he said plain as day verbatim: "the first rapper was coke la rock" right at 3:40

(this is also something that many others have said as well)

yet your brain WANTED to hear that DJ HOLLYWOOD - not taking anything away from DJ HOLLYWOOD, but you're WANTING to badly to discredit these dudes for your own selfish reasons ignoring reality

you dudes have been doing this for the entire discussion...its' weird fam and makes no sense....especially to those of us that ain't from NY, maybe you dudes are just more emotional about it

what a dumb ass

if you listen further he was basically saying coke la rock was the first mc in the herc scene but he then explains that Coke La Rock DID NOT RHYME TO THE BEAT. He then states that rapping (syncopated to the beat) came from DJ Hollywood (who was actually from an older crowd, disco scene.)

time stamped



dj hollywood was city wide known and before Coke la Rock or anything related to Herc

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I have constantly gave credit where its due in my posts, but I want BADLY to discredit these dudes?

And he said Coke La rock because he was inferring Coke La rock didn't dj, he just rhymed on the mic like the average rapper TODAY does. shyt just went over your head!

what a dumb ass

if you listen further he was basically saying coke la rock was the first mc in the

you two muthafukkas:

i've said repeatedly
the blueprint.
the blueprint.
the blueprint.
the blueprint.

meaning that coke and herc were the first DEEJAY/EMCEE combo in hip hop - they weren't the best, they didn't perfect it, but they were the initiators they started it all.

you two weirdos keep changing peoples arguments, ignoring statements and just running with it...but i'm out for real this time, you two win. i'm wrong.

 

[truth2you]

you two muthafukkas:

i've said repeatedly
the blueprint.
the blueprint.
the blueprint.
the blueprint.

meaning that coke and herc were the first DEEJAY/EMCEE combo in hip hop - they weren't the best, they didn't perfect it, but they were the initiators they started it all.

you two weirdos keep changing peoples arguments, ignoring statements and just running with it...but i'm out for real this time, you two win. i'm wrong.

You're calling us weirdos, and your own video went against what you said, but you didn't even see it!

 

[Booker T Garvey]

You're calling us weirdos, and your own video went against what you said, but you didn't even see it!

bruh, your partner in crime said that grandmaster caz "BASICALLY" said that coke laroc was an emcee

when in the actual video he says that THE FIRST RAPPER WAS COKE LA ROC <<<those are his own words, FIRST RAPPER

he was the FIRST so of course he wasn't spitting like RAKIM, they invented the shyt from the vibe of the party - that's why it's called the BLUEPRINT - others BUILT OFF OF IT.

see, yall are just fukking with me now and my dumbass is entertaining you two trolls

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Imagine checking other groups but not checking your actual sons for using a word that made their great grandfather worthless.....


Thats " hip hop" for u

Imagine being to stupid to understand that family can say things to each other that others can't

That analogy don’t even make sense breh
An inside joke is a joke that only the people inside the group understand
The culture is already on full display
How you gon say it thru all types of entertainment but ban it from mfs slang
Jews don’t call each other “my kike”, Hispanics don’t be on some “my spic” shyt
Until we stop saying it, it is what it is

WRONG

If me & my brother get in a fight in the middle of the street and we say all kinds of crazy shyt to each other, that doesn't give other people the right to get in the middle of our argument and call us what we're calling each other. We are family. We're allowed to fight with each other the way we want, even in front of others.

It don't matter if the culture is on full display.

IT'S OUR CULTURE!!!!

We get to decide how it's implemented and who gets to be a part of it.

 

[HoloGraphic]

Maybe we should switch it up and call everybody nikka? Just a thot.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Completely false. Here’s the show and prove.

If you ask anyone to nail an ethnicity down to hip hop, it’s going to be us, 9 times out of 10.

The problem is zealots who want to push a narrative like saying it comes from Jamaica or ‘The south’ and then extrapolate and extrapolate until it’s more rhetorical than factual. That’s why you need to stop it at the spark (oh...disco king Mario was the real founder he did it all himself...his people were from my state lowkey so it’s kinda like we made it XD” that doesn’t mesh with reality or logic.

Kool Herc is a founding father of Hip Hop. To deny him of that is to sully the story with some aspirational confederate pride bullshyt.

In reality, hip hop, reggae, samba all them shyts are the product of centuries upon centuries of different arms of the African diaspora communing...but that’s WAY too deep for the Coli anyway.

Fine example.

Living in the Bronx and NYC in the 1970s, you were exposed to so many forms of music.

Coming from one window radio, you're hearing Frankie Crocker playing "Cocomotion" by El Coco. Frankie was king.

Your man has the new, fresh Sanyo cassette player/radio, on it he playing the static-filled radio signal from
WWRL in Queens with Jerry Bledsoe playing Dr. Buzzard's "Cher Chez La Femme."

And we all listened to the biggest music station in the city at that time which was the Top 40 77 WABC. They're playing The Isley Brothers and Aerosmith in the same half hour.

Next door neighbors are playing Eddie Palmieri and El Gran Combo all damn day.

Moms is playing her Mahalia Jackson gospel albums one minute, then chills with Dinah Washington later in the day.

Pops loves his Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock and Coltrane.

The kids who programmed party music (Hip Hop) during that time combined all these influences to unknowingly create what was then a new music art form.

Over 40 years later, and we have grandchildren now debating over who put the plastic on Big Momma's sofa first.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Imagine being to stupid to understand that family can say things to each other that others can't



WRONG

If me & my brother get in a fight in the middle of the street and we say all kinds of crazy shyt to each other, that doesn't give other people the right to get in the middle of our argument and call us what we're calling each other. We are family. We're allowed to fight with each other the way we want, even in front of others.

It don't matter if the culture is on full display.

IT'S OUR CULTURE!!!!

We get to decide how it's implemented and who gets to be a part of it.

Im stupid but you don’t know what an inside joke is
Don’t know why I waste my time with you idiots

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Im stupid but you don’t know what an inside joke is
Don’t know why I waste my time with you idiots

Dummy, I know what an inside joke is.

Us on The Coli have thousands of them that the rest of the world wouldn't understand.

 

[LevelUp]

Been sleeping on this thread.