The Father of Hiphop says you need to check these non blacks using the N word

[JayGatsby]

Shut up, foreigner. Nobody wants your input.

keep your mouth shut n keep it movin

your input is actually worthless..

 

[Booker T Garvey]

dude, he played disco breaks too....when I say disco Im not talking about stuff like Beegees or Love Is The message, Im talking

I don’t even think you know what you’re arguing at this point

And you clearly didn’t watch that caz interview, he said that Herc specifically spun OLDER records, and this was in 1973, this is why he was using old James brown records

I mean who hasn’t heard this sampled somewhere:


Pretty sure this was one of many songs Herc spun at his parties

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@Booker T Garvey

One of herc boys listing some of the songs herc played for the dancers/bboys

NORIN RAD:"But you would definetely say that the Hiphop Hustle had its own identity that set it apart from the Disco Hustle, right?"

CHIP:"Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!!" (excited)

NORIN RAD:"At which point of the party would Kool Herc and Coke La Rock start playing the Hustle songs? In the beginning of it, in the middle or at the end?"

CHIP:"Well, you can always do it. Any record..even those records that they breakdance to you can do the Hiphop Hustle to it. It wouldn't even matter. Some of the break records you can hustle to it!"

NORIN RAD:"Could you give me an example? "The Mexican" maybe?"

CHIP:"Yeah!"

NORIN RAD: "For real?"

CHIP:"The Mexican? Yeah!!"

NORIN RAD:"So I guess that's why it is referred to as Hiphop Hustle because it was parly also done to the B-Boy records, right?"


CHIP: "Alright, you got "Body Talk" by Eddie Kendricks.... you have "Here Comes The Express" by B.T. Express...."Shifting Gears" by Johnny Hammond...then you had "Pursuit Of The Pimpmobile"(by Isaac Hayes)"...

NORIN RAD: What about this one ?" (plays "T Plays It Cool" by Marvin Gaye)
CHIP:"Yeah....'cause you can go right back into the Hiphop thing, into the Breaking! Say I can do the Hiphop Hustle and then I go off and start breaking. If you know how to break you can go right into it. What we call Burning you can go right into it and then you can go back to doing the Hiphop Hustle again."

NORIN RAD:"So what were some of the songs at Kool Herc's parties that the HipHop Hustle was done to? I know "Do You What You Gotta Do" by Eddie Drennon was one. ould you name some more?"

NORIN RAD: "What about this one? (plays "Dominoes" by Donald Byrd for Chip)

CHIP:"Oh yeah, that's Hiphop Hustle all the way!"

Castles In The Sky

none of these songs are hardcore funk but more like disco(black disco) and Herc played them all

 

[Booker T Garvey]

^^^^ bruh you’re doing waaaaaay too much, you’ve been on google just:

Herc probably spun some disco fam he was a DJ in the 70’s, relax.

but like caz said when he started the “break” records with OLDER songs, that’s when people started talking about his parties, and coke la rock started rhyming over the breaks = birth of hip hop.

Once again, NONE of you have posted evidence that this never happened or there was somebody else doing this before Herc

 

[BlackPrint]

^^^^ bruh you’re doing waaaaaay too much, you’ve been on google just:

Herc probably spun some disco fam he was a DJ in the 70’s, relax.

but like caz said when he started the “break” records with OLDER songs, that’s when people started talking about his parties, and coke la rock started rhyming over the breaks = birth of hip hop.

Once again, NONE of you have posted evidence that this never happened or there was somebody else doing this before Herc

My G u gon b doing this all night and 2 weeks from now when the thread gets made again.. I fell into the trap

DONT DO IT

No disrespect to @IllmaticDelta i really think dude is sharp when he wanna be but 8/10 son just gon throw random contradictory book pages at u until he go to sleep

Like u cud tell that nikka yo Herc played this venue in 1972 before your man did and he would respond with a book quote from a nikka in Brooklyn saying Herc stole his swag in 1974

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

keep your mouth shut n keep it movin

your input is actually worthless..

You don't exist.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

^^^^ bruh you’re doing waaaaaay too much, you’ve been on google just:

Herc probably spun some disco fam he was a DJ in the 70’s, relax.

but like caz said when he started the “break” records with OLDER songs, that’s when people started talking about his parties, and coke la rock started rhyming over the breaks = birth of hip hop.

Once again, NONE of you have posted evidence that this never happened or there was somebody else doing this before Herc

Sounds like you're mad at the facts, nobody's on google, and he's reflecting everything @K.O.N.Y have been saying.
Herc was (A) not (the) founding father, and hip hop existed (before) he added (big speakers? )
No random nikkas from brooklyn in 74 are saying anything in any of the posts displayed, none of us are from any of these random southern states @BlackPrint is talking about outside of YOU, being from TN.
You must be jamaican. If not, there's no reason to fight facts and accounts with memes, gifs, and emotion.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@BlackPrint and you wouldn't say "herc played ___ venue in 72" because he wasn't even active then.
It's literally been years of facts, random curious uk and canada island trolls pretending to just learn the herc mythos.
Once again, none of us are from these random states outside of the lost nikka AGREEING with you.

 

[Stacks]

Ya'll arguing about the title more than the actual substance

I'm saying

All this yada-yada about nothing, aside from the point about non-Blacks running their fukking mouths

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

Just checked this cac last week.

Me: "Don't be saying that shyt"

Cac: " Thats the way I talk"

Me: "Well don't say it around me"

He didn't say anything else.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don’t even think you know what you’re arguing at this point

I clearly laid it out for you

And you clearly didn’t watch that caz interview, he said that Herc specifically spun OLDER records, and this was in 1973, this is why he was using old James brown records

I mean who hasn’t heard this sampled somewhere:


Pretty sure this was one of many songs Herc spun at his parties

EVERYONE played those records before Herc was known. Those were staples of the black music scene outside of what was played in the top 40 back then.




apache being played



hood disco vs mainstream disco




dj's everywhere played james brown/breakbeats. For example

Some of the records that Flowers was known for playing include “Space Age” by the Jimmy Castor Bunch, “Sunnin’ And Funnin’ by MFSB, “Somebody’s Gotta Go” by Mike and Bill. “Touch and Go” by Ecstasy, Passion and Pain, “Changes” by Vernon Burch and “Messin’ With My Mind” by Labelle. Another favorite of his was the rock group Babe Ruth’s “The Mexican” (which would later become a hip hop staple as a breakbeat record and sample). He would mix that with James Brown material, and he was also known to on occasion, use three turntables simultaneously. (He would combine Chic’s “Good Times,” MFSB’s “Love Is The Message,” and Vaughan Mason and Crew’s “Bounce Skate Roll Bounce” for example.)

RAPAMANIA: GRANDMASTER FLOWERS AND THE MOBILE DJ MOVEMENT by Steven Stancell

Troy- I am surprised to hear that. O.K. I am going to throw out some names give me some feedback on them any way you like or as long as you like. First up Grand Master Flowers. Now what I have on Flowers is he darkened the labels on his records. Flowers also made you expand your music after you heard him play James Brown and Babe Ruth together.

Plummer- Oh yeah I thought that was cool. Flowers was different kind of mixer. You go into the gay clubs and they use to play a lot of hustle type dance music. They also played with the music with the highs and lows and mix with the sound effects and stuff. But they would not pull out the Funk, or they would not go into rock. Flowers was sort of like a Jimmy Hendrix he would do everything and you were always learning from him. But the thing about him is he played these games, he would darken his records and stuff. A lot of times we knew what it was and if we didn’t we would make it our business to find out. But it wasn’t a cut throat type of thing. He and I had a pretty good relationship, we didn’t ever sour our relationship. People would talk junk but we knew it was just that, junk. But you know between myself, Flowers, Maboya and Pete D.j. Jones you heard our names on the radio more than anyone else.

Troy- Alright tell me about that James Brown and Babe Ruth mix by Flowers.

Plummer- Yeah when Flowers played that I didn’t know who Babe Ruth and The Mexican jam was and so when I heard this high shrill voice and with this Spanish sort of sounding instruments in the back and I thought this was cool because it just blended so nicely and only Flowers would do something like that, at least at that time. Later on everybody else started doing stuff like that as well. So Flowers helped me because then I would play J Geils Band (Give It To Me), mix that into one of my records because it really had a great danceable break in it. I remember Loggins and Messina (Pathway to Glory) with an equally danceable break…I came from an R&B WBLS kind of back ground so I wasn’t really that hip to rock. Although I liked Jimi Hendrix I wouldn’t say I was a big Jimi Hendrix fan.

Old School Hip Hop Interviews - DJ Plummer | OldSchoolHipHop.Com

and

"We spun breaks back then too", Pete Jones says, "I played "Do it anyway you wanna," 'Scorpio', 'Bongo Rock', BT Express, Crown Heights Affair, Kool and the Gang, we played all of that stuff - and we'd keep the break going too. I played it all, disco, it didn't matter, there was no hip-hop per se back then, except for the parts we made up by spinning it over and over again."
There have been so many stories written about hip-hop's early days that have not reported on the guys that spun in Manhattan and Brooklyn in the early and mid '70's, that many crucial deejays of that time feel left out.
"Kool Herc and guys like that didn't have a big reputation back then", explains Jones, "they were in the Bronx - we, meaning guys like myself and Flowers, we played everywhere, so we were known. Their crowd was anywhere between 4 to 70. Mine was 18-22. They played in parks - where anybody could go, no matter how old you are you could go to a park. We played in clubs."
With a sense of urgency Mr. Jones says, "I have to clear something up, many people think that we played disco - that's not true. There were two things happening in black music at that time: there was the "Hustle" type music being played - which was stuff like Van McCoy's "Do the Hustle" - I couldn't stand that record. And then there were the funky type records that mixed the Blues and jazz with Latin percussion that would later be called funk. Well, hip-hop emerged from that."
He places special emphasis on the word 'emerged'. He says that because "If you know anything about the history of music, you know, no one person created anything, it 'emerges' from different things.

RAPAMANIA: KOOL HERC VS PETE DJ JONES By Mark Skillz


here, you have hank spann spinning skull snaps on live air in 1971





....to sum it up

 

[IllmaticDelta]

My G u gon b doing this all night and 2 weeks from now when the thread gets made again.. I fell into the trap

DONT DO IT

No disrespect to @IllmaticDelta i really think dude is sharp when he wanna be but 8/10 son just gon throw random contradictory book pages at u until he go to sleep

Like u cud tell that nikka yo Herc played this venue in 1972 before your man did and he would respond with a book quote from a nikka in Brooklyn saying Herc stole his swag in 1974

dude, facts are the facts. herc didn't start shyt...


breakbeats




rapping



2 turntable djing



graff



first modern rap song over a true breakbeat (funk)



bboying

 

[K.O.N.Y]

My G u gon b doing this all night and 2 weeks from now when the thread gets made again.. I fell into the trap

DONT DO IT

No disrespect to @IllmaticDelta i really think dude is sharp when he wanna be but 8/10 son just gon throw random contradictory book pages at u until he go to sleep

Like u cud tell that nikka yo Herc played this venue in 1972 before your man did and he would respond with a book quote from a nikka in Brooklyn saying Herc stole his swag in 1974

what exactly are you guys confused on?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Sounds like you're mad at the facts, nobody's on google, and he's reflecting everything @K.O.N.Y have been saying.
Herc was (A) not (the) founding father, and hip hop existed (before) he added (big speakers? )
No random nikkas from brooklyn in 74 are saying anything in any of the posts displayed, none of us are from any of these random southern states @BlackPrint is talking about outside of YOU, being from TN.
You must be jamaican. If not, there's no reason to fight facts and accounts with memes, gifs, and emotion.

facts

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

Oh is there a problem here?

Don't eem worry, they'll move into "c00n" and that "bedwench" shyt before y'all know it
Reviving & adopting centuries old racist slurs is the most embarassing moment of the 2010s