The fact Killer Mike's rules of how Black America can save itself is actually controversial speaks volumes.

[RickyDiBiase]

What FD never seems to acknowledge is that "voting for the right candidate" won't liberate folks either.

The thing that kills me about most of these fake socialists/communists/progressives/liberals - is that they could spend their time talking about worker cooperatives and building democratic work places - especially the black ones. They prefer intersectionality, they prefer to watch old movies from a Black Feminist perspective, they prefer to talk about US imperialism.

What they don't prefer is talking about solutions.
They don't prefer taking action.

The Basque Ethnic minority pooled their resources post Spanish Civil War, and created a factory, which created more factories, more distribution, more warehouses, and then schools, banks, insurance and health systems.

Mondragon is a huge socialist success story.

Mondragon Corporation - Wikipedia

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If you talk about Black people doing this, you're an out of touch person that worships capitalism.

These people are literally ops, and they've been educated and often financed by the same people that fund the insane Black right wingers.

This shyt right here is what black-pilled me on politics post-2020.

During the primaries I supported Bernie Sanders HEAVILY; making sure to catch all of his campaign speeches when they were livestreamed on YouTube, read articles that reported on him everyday, and rooted for him during the debates.

After all the support that I saw for him online amongst people my age and younger on social media, I thought "Oh shyt, he actually has a chance this time ".

But wtf happened?

These same people didn't bother to fukkING VOTE.

Rather than stand in line for a couple hours to effect real change, these idiots couldn't do more than post memes.

After Bernie's eventual defeat, those same people simply resumed to their daily routines of hopping on Twitter, r/socialism, r/communism, and Twitch to do nothing but complain and virtue signal.

That shyt really soured me on left-wing politics, and this is coming from someone who's left-wing (economically).

The people who constantly harp about revolutionary change at the systemic level these days are just bloviating -- real change begins when the puppets gain sentience, not when the puppet master simply gets swapped out for another.

Lol yall Bernie Sanders people are so goddamn overdramatic

 

[Mowgli]

Literally nobody said that. Killer Mike listed 5 things and any reasonable black man would agree with what he said in regards to closing the gap.

-Get an Education or trade
-Live below means AKA use money for investments
-Don't have kids out of wedlock
-Get Married.

Somebody tell me, what did he say wrong??

Doesn't provide a may for black people to be rich like whites overnight.

And also hurts the amount of p*ssy derelict nigros have access to.

I feel like anytime someone can tell you that something doesn't work or won't work but won't tell you what will work, you dealing with a clown

 

[tuckgod]

There’s no such place as Black America and stop listening to rappers.

 

[EndGame]

I fully disagree with him. One of these days a white man will eventually jump out of the sky and guide us to greatness. We've been waiting 400 years for this, we can wait another couple years

A Black man not a white. Here is how it will go down.

“And then I will sound the trumpet out of the air, and will send mine Elect One, having in him all my power, one measure ; and this one shall summon my despised people from the nations, and I will burn with fire those who have insulted them and who have ruled among them in (this) Age."

Apocalypse of Abraham

 

[voltronblack]

Nobody with any sense is going to argue against the basics he is outlining.
But what happens is that people use change at the individual level to avoid the fight for systemic change at the macro level.
I hate the way these conversations are presented.


Why can’t people hold more than one idea in their heads?
“Do for yourself…instead of relying on the white man.”

How about do all of this…and STILL be involved in local politics, research, activism and advocacy.

Fighting for your rights that you as taxpayers have isn’t waiting on the white man. Protesting inequitable infrastructures doesn’t mean you neglect the private sphere.
Holding hegemonic entities accountable and continuing to push for legislative changes isn’t a call to abandon personal accountability.

People want to address the private sphere as an excuse for not fighting the public sphere and that’s where the culture of cowardice comes in.

Why do you think the French were raiding Blackrock headquarters? The individual changes are essential, but that’s not the end of the story. Our ancestors were doing all of that in Tulsa, Ok and still got bombed. Change has to be fought for at all levels or we pave the way for facism by letting shyt slide with

Your right ma'am what killer mike say is a good thing to do but the thing is about the black community does not exist inside a vacuum like say asian, jew or Latin community's do. You have both the government and private business actively under minding any make an attempt black people try to make to empower themselves.

How Banks Are Defending Their Right to Discriminate

Chamber of Commerce v. CFPB is the latest battle in Wall Street’s long war to destroy the consumer protection agency.

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Each of these men pledged to fight racism within their own banks. And all of their firms are members of trade groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the American Bankers Association, and the Consumer Bankers Association, which last week jointly sued in federal court to defend their members’ rights to discriminate—often along racial lines.


Chamber of Commerce v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is the latest battle in Wall Street’s long legal war to destroy the CFPB, the government’s watchdog against cheap tricks and consumer abuses in lending. The slew of trade groups bringing the case say the CFPB was wildly out of line when, in March, the agency decided to take it as a given that discrimination is an “unfair, deceptive, or abusive act or practice” (UDAAP). Now, the bank representatives are using the lawsuit as an opportunity to claim the CFPB itself is unconstitutional and should be defunded.


Read more from the Revolving Door Project


To any normal person, the idea that discrimination might not be “unfair, deceptive, or abusive” is ridiculous. But corporate lawyers have built a case based on the CFPB’s decision to update its examination manual—the guide for CFPB employees on firm oversight—to include discriminatory practices like denying marginalized people the ability to open accounts. The CFPB said it could take action here because consumers are protected against UDAAP under the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act. The CFPB claims that discrimination falls under one or all of those adjectives.


But the CFPB did not go through a formal rulemaking process to alert the world it was planning to start examining for discrimination. In a blog post accompanying the update, the CFPB just said it would “continue to scrutinize” these practices, implying that it has been examining for discriminatory conduct for some time already.


A formal rulemaking would have been more time-consuming. The CFPB instead took it as self-evident that denying someone credit due to bigotry is “unfair, deceptive, or abusive,” and appended the words “including discrimination” to their normal UDAAP instructions in the examination manual.


That move, banking trade groups now allege, was “arbitrary and capricious.” Tragically, they contend, it leaves banks with “no choice but to update their UDAAP compliance policies and programs, at significant cost.”

It doesn’t take much work to find Jim Crow–era legal thinking in the Chamber of Commerce’s reasoning.

To be clear: The harm alleged is that banks will have to spend money and time ensuring they aren’t being discriminatory. They should have been doing that anyway, and it is what they would end up having to do if the CFPB had gone through a rulemaking.

Black veterans received lower benefits because of racism, study says

The nation typically spends Veterans Day honoring soldiers for their service. But a study released this holiday sheds light on […] The post Black veterans received lower benefits because of racism, study says appeared first on TheGrio.

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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

ifting through granular data such as student loan debt and occupation breakdowns by race—information that is usually the preserve of think tanks and academics, rather than Wall Street economists—Peterson said that inequities exist at every juncture, be it when Black Ivy League graduates are paid less than White counterparts or the struggles Black business owners face when trying to secure investment from venture capitalists. By her calculations, an additional 6.1 million jobs a year and $13 trillion in business revenue could have been generated over the last two decades if Black entrepreneurs had fair and equitable access to credit. “At all these different levels of society and achievement, there are these roadblocks,” Peterson says. “It’s pyramidal.”

New research details effect of ‘Black tax’ on African American homeownership

Black Americans are paying more than white Americans to own a home, making it harder for Black households to accumulate housing wealth at the same rate as their white counterparts, according to new…

thehill.com

 

[Concerned Citizen]

Mike was spitting facts about things you can do to lead a better life. Will it be perfect or the life you ultimately deserve or are owed? No it won’t be but nobody can say that a person who decides to finish high school, go to college or get a trade, avoids out of wedlock children, and invests their money instead of spending it on frivolous shyt isn’t going to have a better life.

I don’t even understand why people act like doing the above and fighting for political and economic change beneficial to black people are mutually exclusive. You can do both and doing both is better than waiting for other entities to change when ultimately you have no control on the timeline for change IF it ever happens.

A lot of people bend over backwards to avoid any sort of personal responsibility in life.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Doesn't provide a may for black people to be rich like whites overnight.

And also hurts the amount of p*ssy derelict nigros have access to.

I feel like anytime someone can tell you that something doesn't work or won't work but won't tell you what will work, you dealing with a clown

Yeah and white people aren't rich. Folks make in seem like every white person is sitting on a mound of money. Hell, all you gotta do is work with white people and they'll tell you all about their personal lives.

 

[ISO]

I would've said this is conspiracy but we absolutely have factions of the black community trying to normalize a breakdown of the nuclear family.

Yup, nut ass intersectional uber liberal LGBT nikkas

Also for whatever reason there’s a notion that nuclear family means other family members are practically non-existent and no other members of the community help your children develop which is impossible

We talk of black two parent households, mother and father working together to be the main care takers and providers of a child. Not strict nuclear families by the definition. No one cares if some extended fam members also live there.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

One of the best threads on thecoli. So much passion especially from the posters that agree with Killer Mike's position.

Btw, I know it might not shock anybody but I agree with Killer Mike.

 

[O.Red]

Seven pages of people arguing against doing the most basic things to ensure your survival as a human being living in United States in the year 2023.

It seems like the objections are coming from Uber militants and far left leftists. Both of these groups do not live in reality. They are divorced from reality just like their Libertarian counterparts on the right. They also are likely to come from privileged backgrounds where they can make all sorts of mistakes in their youth because they have a safety net from their mommy and daddy when they finally get back to reality.

This is the truth and nobody ever says it out loud

Some of the loudest twitter socialists are only able to feel that way because capitalism gives them a comfortable place to tweet and yell from

 

[karim]

This is the truth and nobody ever says it out loud

Some of the loudest twitter socialists are only able to feel that way because capitalism gives them a comfortable place to tweet and yell from

 

[O.Red]

What this supposed to mean?

Don't tell me you're one of them nikkas that quote Marx while wearing $150 Nikes and having a thousand dollar phone in your pocket

 

[JUSTIN HERBERT]

Reparations are not the answer it’ll literally be that Chappell skit come to life

Nykkas is lost man . I worked hard to live comfortably . A lotta broke nykkas is broke on purpose imo

Maybe like when slavery ended it would’ve made sense but nah . Ban me if u want these just my thoughts

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

people will come up a problem for every solution

 

[3rdWorld]

What are the other steps that can close the wealth gap?

A sense of self worth and Independent mindedness. This applies to Black people globally, not just in the US.

Our collective welfare and wellbeing is too tied to White society and their business structure. We must ween ourselves off the idea you can only sell to a White man. we end up pandering to them at great cost to ourselves.

And when Black people do try to go independent and cut white people off you get sanctions like Zimbabwe where every White country jumps in to help Britain in its fight with Zim, even America listened to the British and applied sanctions on Zimbabwe.
White folks ready to ride for each and we are still lost.