The economy is COOKED!!! (We haven't recovered from 2008 recession just made it worse)

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poor OP is consuming doomsday brainrot videos on YouTube :mjcry:
Debunk anything that has been said instead of just posting this.
If lay offs and unemployment keeps rising like it is. And people are working 2 to 3 jobs just to make ends meet and repos, credit card debt, late rent and mortgage payments also skyrocketing in an economy that's 70% based on consumer spending and these videos are digging deeper than the surface level like you get on MSM or by politicians how exactly am I posting doom and gloom brain rot videos?? The 1st of the current videos I just posted already said that those job numbers were going to be revised by almost 1 million and the video was made earlier this week

People on this forum are going to be making serious economic decisions and they should have the information that's going to help them not those masked BS numbers they think are real. If any of this is fake just debunk it.
 

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Get a life and stop watching those retarded alex jones wannabe videos on youtube.

Yeah US economy isn't so great, but neither is the rest of the world. Vote for aliens from Mars, they will make the earth great again!
What does economic numbers have to do with Alex Jones or aliens?? Just another dumbass mouth breather just posting to post fukk outta here:camby:
 

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we've been printing money like crazy since bush. And ninjas keep voting for more taxes, inflation and other bad policies that's going to keep kicking the can down the road making our lives in the future harder.:wow: coli go along to get along super simp Dems in here trying to keep the wool over your eyes parroting each other. Gtfoh.
These dumb asses like the delusional they are being spoon fed. They think Kamala gonna swoop down and save the day with stimmies and price controls :snoop:
 

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This isn't how it works. Look up MMT.

The national debt is just a record of how much money the government has invested in its people historically. Nobody needs to "pay off" the debts.

The government pays out interest on government bonds that it has chosen to issue when their date becomes due. Because this amount is in U.S. dollars and the U.S. issues that currency, the government can always pay out the interests on these bonds to citizens, corporations or foreign governments. There is no risk of defaulting on this "debt". The money doesn't need to be raised through taxes first.
That fraud is no longer going to work we don't feel the money printing like the countries having to hold dollars in their foreign reserves. When the BRICS countries and those outside the bloc decide that they aren't going to be suffering because of America's corporations running amok with greed because of cheap money the incoming psunami of dollars flooding the market will send the dollar into hyperinflation hell.
 

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I wrote this in a youtube comment. Figure I'll leave it here too.

In the West, we have financialized economies. They are deliberately set up to increase asset values by any means necessary. Property, stocks, bonds. It is so by design. It allows for the wealthy to engage in rent-seeking and suck the economy dry by means of debt and usury. That is the natural course of things if you allow the wealthy to use their power and influence freely to pursue their own interests and shape the economic order to their benefit.

We are indoctrinated through our education system which teaches a false economic history and promotes a financialized economy, one that serves the oligarchs. It leads us to believe that a strong stock market and GDP growth is the same as a strong economy for the people, and that the current economic order is the most advanced and efficient there has ever been. It is indeed efficient at nothing but accumulating wealth in the hands of a few oligarchs, to the great detriment of society as a whole.

This financialization has been allowed to run rampant through all sectors of the economy. Healthcare, education, industry, public goods and utilities, and even the military. Typically, it means foregoing investments for the future in productive assets and labor, in favor of cost-cutting and saddling everything with debt, in order to make the financial reports look great in the short term, and the boards and executives pay themselves tremendous salaries and fees for doing so. Then sell off for a great return, while everything around them turns into shyt. Another neat trick is to provide credit, until one day when you for no good reason suddenly withhold credit and people and businesses go bankrupt for not being able to make their payments, so you can foreclose on them and take over assets. Financial panics and crashes are deliberately engineered, as that is a way to consolidate assets into fewer hands.

People talk of the "economy" as one thing, but actually the economy consists of two parts: the productive industrial economy, and the financial economy which exists as a layer on top of the productive economy. It is claimed that this is necessary as credit and equity markets make for an efficient economy. But this is indoctrination. Its real purpose is simply to parasitize on the productive economy and enrich oligarchs.

How a society manages debt and interest is a question literally as old as civilization. Once mighty nations have fallen because oligarchs were allowed to take control of the monetary and banking economic system. The Roman empire fell because making money off of money became the highest order of business. The Roman economy financialized and deindustrialized, as there was less and less resources made available for productive work. The population was plunged into poverty while wealth accumulated for the oligarchs, and then the dark ages ensued. Any bells ringing?

You might say this old timey history isn't relevant to the modern efficient world. You could not be more mistaken, because the mechanism by which this parasitic financialization occurs is EXACTLY the same as what we see today - debt and usury. History repeats itself.

Conversely, leaders and governments who take control of and put the economy into service for the people have seen tremendous developments in short time: Britain in 16-1700s, Russia in 1800s, France under Napoleon, Germany pre-WW2, China today. They all had state run banking. It really should be a public utility. Imagine that - if you pay people to do work that needs to be done, you get a vibrant economy with full employment! And to the degree that you're able to make productive industrial investments, so are you able to trade with other nations. Napoleon boasted that with his economic policies in place, France would soon turn "from a country of artisans into a country of artists" - too bad the rest of Europe, run by bankers and oligarchs, ganged up on him and in the end he lost. If you attempt to have an economic system that works for the people, you run the risk of assassination, government overthrown or being dragged into war.

Think of it like this. We have money printing to finance endless wars around the world, but we can't print money for work that needs to be done domestically? This is nonsense. They say that this would create inflation. But that is a lie. Inflation will not occur as long as the money created reflects new values created by work that is done in the productive economy.

By the way, the concept of UBI is at least 100 years old. An engineer named C.H. Douglas working in finance and accounting proposed it then as a sensible outcome of the fact that as technology develops, it frees up time. Leisure time is a mark of civilization. He called his system social credit. The reason why we never got it should be obvious. The powers that be would never allow such a thing. Japan tried to implement it but was soon forced in line by the international bankers that run the world.

Educate yourself on economic history by looking up the work of economist Dr Michael Hudson. He has written plenty of books and appeared on many a podcast.

"Money, being naturally barren, to make it breed money is preposterous and a perversion from the end of its institution, which was only to serve the purpose of exchange and not of increase. Men called bankers we shall hate, for they enrich themselves while doing nothing." Aristotle
 

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99% of the time, Doom Tube has nothing coherent about what people are supposed to do.

"Hope you got your bug out bag ready..."

And now I word from our favorite VPN
It's always some dumbass headline.

"WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. Here's what 'THEY' don't want you to know about their plan!"

Then the actual video is, congress changed their amount of gold reserves or a FEMA drill was ran in Florida in prep for hurricane season.
 

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Cats done flipped their whole channels trying to cash in on doom and gloom

This guy used to cover cool cars...but now it's every possible angle about the world disintergrating via cars.

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It's always some dumbass headline.

"WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. Here's what 'THEY' don't want you to know about their plan!"

Then the actual video is, congress changed their amount of gold reserves or a FEMA drill was ran in Florida in prep for hurricane season.
Can you timestamp any video I posted that contains any of this bullshyt you're talking about??

Cats done flipped their whole channels trying to cash in on doom and gloom

This guy used to cover cool cars...but now it's every possible angle about the world disintergrating via cars.

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Don't even know who this. Why would anyone get economic information from a "cool car" Youtuber?? The information I'm posting is from economists, former FED employees, seasoned Realestate Brokerage owners, seasoned Real Estate developers & investors and seasoned commodities investors. What you THINK I posted and what I ACTUALLY post aren't even the sam realm.

Tom welcomes back economist John Williams, the founder of Shadow Government Statistics to explore the manipulation and misrepresentation of economic data by government institutions like the Fed and Treasury. Williams expresses concerns over the intentional distortion of inflation and GDP statistics, which can deceive the public and impact their decisions, potentially harming the economy and markets. A notable example is the strategic petroleum reserve being drained to artificially lower gasoline prices before elections. Accurate data, Williams asserts, is vital for informed policymaking and avoiding exacerbated economic issues.
 

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Don't even know who this. Why would anyone get economic information from a "cool car" Youtuber??

He's a car dealer that

1) sees people's credit
2) goes to the auctions and see what other dealers are buying (and what they can sell or not sell)

Looking at the auto market, much like looking at the retail market or the real estate market is a good proxy for what's going on with the broader economy.

It's a pretty typical economic measure, just in a more tangible form for people that don't read NBER, like I do.
 
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