The difference between Nas and Jay-Z..........

[Tom]

nas and jay have an equally poor discography; strong start with mediocre follow-up, save maybe two exceptions. jay-z doesn't have the strongest ear for beats.

who else has a discography with 10+ albums thats better than those two?

 

[kermit da hustla]

who else has a discography with 10+ albums thats better than those two?

ross, if you count his mixtapes. easily. both jay and nas only have three good albums in their respective discographies.

 

[Tom]

ross, if you count his mixtapes. easily. both jay and nas only have three good albums in their respective discographies.

hope u talmbout Diana Ross

 

[MysteryT]

Jay-Z's entire career is based on his image as a successful business man. (previously drug dealer). He is very good at marketing this image based on what he accomplishes off the mic. The essence of his discography boils down to accomplishing something then rapping about it. I got away selling drugs and got rich, I own my own label, I'm the president of def jam, I married Beyonce, I made 100+ million selling Rocafella, now I ride in private jets and buy million dollar paintings, I have a daughter now...... You get my drift.

Nas on the other hand is the exact opposite. His accolades and acclaim stem from the music he creates. He is looked at as an "artist". When someone tries to criticize Nas they go for his image. Slave to labels, never made enough money, marital problems. He can drop Classic material but still be clowned for what goes on in his personal life.


I find it amazing how much image matters for an artist. In Jays case as long as he is making headlines, closing deals with the nets and making millions he will be applauded no matter how average his music is.

Nas on the other hand will continue to be underrated as long as people use his personal life as a reason not to check for him.

I always said this about Jay. His celebrity is what gets him off the hook with everything. Perhaps that's why Jay's ego/feelings/man hood were in shock and hurt/humbled when Nas won that battle they had. Nobody was expecting the little guy to win. Honestly, I think that was a big lesson and wake up call for Jay. Just because you're a giant and appear to have the world at your feet, does not mean you can't get a big reality check.

By the way, I think it's sad and stupid that fans use an artist personal life against them. As if they're not going through the same stuff everyday. Rappers being in the public eye doesn't make them any different from us. Everybody has relationship/marriage/baby mama/baby daddy issues. Everybody has money issues, family issues. They just have to live their lives out publically. I'm sure if the microscope was put on us, our lives would look the same.

Better yet, the fans shouldn't even care about these rappers personal lives. You don't know them and it doesn't affect you one way or the other. Perhaps that's why Nas answered all this on Life Is Good.

 

[RajWatts]

ross, if you count his mixtapes. easily. both jay and nas only have three good albums in their respective discographies.

 

[Tom]

to the dude who said Jay is more honest because he raps about living the rich life, while Nas is rich yet chooses not to (often)

When ur ugly and look like a Camel u have no choice but to rap about materialistic things because you're insecure.

is beautiful so he doesn't need to rap about that shyt to make himself feel better

 

[MysteryT]

Y is it hard to accept that these guys are nothing alike and never will be. Promotion has a lot to do with that. When Jay was going around saying he was the best rapper most people believed it. Why? Because if a person says something enough people start to believe it. When Nas came in the game he proly just wanted to make an album get some bread and fukk some groupies. When Jay got in the game he proly wanted to break records and get all the money. (Which ended up happening anyway) But the biggest difference and i hate to say it, is Nas is somewhat lazy. U don't see him all on the radio and giving interviews like Jay and other rappers. He rarely makes apperances at award shows and whatnot. I believe he just wants to be judged by the music. Nothing more nothing less.

Nas isn't lazy. He just feels he doesn't need to flood the market to keep up with the Jones-es (no pun LOL). That actually works for him because he's not an overt/extroverted type dude anyway. And I actually respect that now. Especially at time like now, when everything and everyone is overexposed and at your fingertips all the time. What happened to the days when entertainers were mysterious and exclusive? But you're right. He and Jay will never be alike and they shouldn't be. Every artist is different for a reason. And every artist goal is different.

 

[Real]

to the dude who said Jay is more honest because he raps about living the rich life, while Nas is rich yet chooses not to (often)

When ur ugly and look like a Camel u have no choice but to rap about materialistic things because you're insecure.

is beautiful so he doesn't need to rap about that shyt to make himself feel better

He irrelevant though

 

[thegreatest]

ross, if you count his mixtapes. easily. both jay and nas only have three good albums in their respective discographies.

neg rep

 

[McPiff]

is beautiful so he doesn't need to rap about that shyt to make himself feel better

 

[MysteryT]

to the dude who said Jay is more honest because he raps about living the rich life, while Nas is rich yet chooses not to (often)

When ur ugly and look like a Camel u have no choice but to rap about materialistic things because you're insecure.

is beautiful so he doesn't need to rap about that shyt to make himself feel better

Right, we aren't in Jay's Hollywood circles. Who in here can honestly say they relate to Maybachs and private jets? Who here can honestly say they relate to taking trips to the South of France, villas, 500k links and Audemars and all that? They can't. They don't even know what the hell that world is like. Let alone even getting a glimpse or relating to it. So Jay being honest about his rich life really has no benefit, because he's not talking to y'all. He's talking to that tiny percent in that world. Nas was never a showy type dude anyway. So his goal as far as his art form was never gonna be based solely on his monetary status.

He irrelevant though

Are you saying Nas irrelevant? I don't see how, when he's able to still drop albums after 20 years in the game. When half the new dudes y'all forget about in 1 week (not to mention they're all a bunch of clown suits now). It def ain't about sales because who is selling anything in 2012? Nobody. Especially our black artist. Relevance isn't based upon fame, money, or anything else now days. Because it's not legitimate anymore, it's all superficial. It's not realistic at all.

 

[Gifted one]

He irrelevant though

Nas is irrelevant?, didn't his album LIG debut at #2?

 

[Real]

Nas is irrelevant?, didn't his album LIG debut at #2?

That don't mean shyt. I'm sure fat joe can drop an album and debut at number. two...as matter of fact, given the right week, i'm sure fat joe can debut at number one

 

[Real]

Are you saying Nas irrelevant? I don't see how, when he's able to still drop albums after 20 years in the game. When half the new dudes y'all forget about in 1 week (not to mention they're all a bunch of clown suits now). It def ain't about sales because who is selling anything in 2012? Nobody. Especially our black artist. Relevance isn't based upon fame, money, or anything else now days. Because it's not legitimate anymore, it's all superficial. It's not realistic at all.

Just cuz u drop an album, doesn't make u relevant.

Nas was performing at the espy's and the crowd was DEAD

No on really fukks with Nas anymore

 

[Gifted one]

That don't mean shyt. I'm sure fat joe can drop an album and debut at number. two...as matter of fact, given the right week, i'm sure fat joe can debut at number one

My bad, Nas debut at #1, but yet to you, he's somehow irrlevant, this is why Jay stans are by far the worst