THE DARK KNIGHT RISES REVIEW THREAD [SPOILERS]

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And there you have it. SMH... Dude, you just being pigheaded when everything I posted was IN THE FILM shown as bright as day! You just being hardheaded, because you know you are wrong. I gave you DETAILED explanations to the OBVIOUS and given you clips to support it. Just admit you was NOT paying attention and/or at least had it in your MIND to hate on the movie without validity.

I understand the plot I'm telling you why it's dumb as fukk and does not make sense
Kidnapping Pavel was pointless, nobody cared about his character, he killed him in front of the people, to prove a point, that is dumb
then he goes around making pointless speeches to people he wants to blow up anyway
If the police captain is actually not a moron, bane would've been arrested, there's no reason to let a man who just shot up the stock exchange escape
especially when you have an entire city of COPS, its just dumb.

They never needed him they just needed the damn BOMB

Every plot point is the movie their whole plan is based upon events non related to anything they are doing to take place

The Harvey Dent Act makes no sense, A LAW IS NOT GOING TO STOP PEOPLE WHO DON'T FOLLOW LAWS ANYWAY
LET ALONE PSYCHOPATHS Batman has to deal with on a daily basis. ITS DUMB

Bane revealed the Harvey Dent lie to the people NOBODY GAVE A shyt! Except for the dumb cop who wants to make Gordon fell like an a$$hole because
he wants to give Batman a blowjob so badly.

This is why this movie is garbage even if I just chalk up all the plotholes has just simple mistakes.
The movie is still bad.

The best characters in the entire series, Batman, Jim Gordon, and Alfred are completely taking out of most of the movie.

The police show down with bane's gang is terrible. The police and Bane's group are both armed, but it turns into a fist fight for some reason.
The police have been in the sewer for 5 months, but come out healthy with clean uniforms. The fact they sent the entire police force instead just a tactical
bomb unit is dumb and just a plot device to allow Bane control of the city.

They're whole plan is to blow Gotham, they could've accomplished this anytime they wanted once they had the bomb, its drawn out in Cartoon like fashion to give Bruce time to come back. Wayne Enterprises is still building stuff for the Military, they always don't use, but seem to like having more of it
the same weapons show up on US streets and the Government doesn't call Wayne Enterprises asking why Batman is riding around in this shyt

The Wayne Ent board of members at made at Bruce for fukking the company
when everybody knows the stock exchange was just shot up and it's not his fault
that whole situation just dumb and does not make sense. nothing in this movie is realistic
when the last two movies established the world for what it was

We're suppose to believe Blake will take over as Batman, when he has no training what so ever

The fighting looked like Hulk hogan V.s. Zeus in No Holds Barred for all the wrestling heads

Taila's death scene was laughable, I mean people were actually laughing in the theater

Movie is way too long, and is boring.
 
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1.) The whole point was to break Bruce in every way imagineable; financially, emotionally, and physically and the finale is to fulfill Ra's al Ghul's wishes to destroy Gotham as he watched them in self-destruct mode before the nuke hit. It was all to break Bruce completely.

2.) Roland Dagget was a pawn to get financing for Bane to pull off everything, from planting the bombs all over the Gotham subways, logistics in bringing the nuclear reactor and kidnapping the scientist who created it. And led to believe he was going to take over Wayne Enterprise in return by Bane taking away all of Bruce's wealth. He was basically a pawn for Bane to achieve his goals.

3.) It was reported the last documented sighting of Batman was 8 years, it never said he up and quit being Batman since that time. It was heavily implied he was still doing it by; a.) the remodeling of the Cave and b.) he unlost hunger to continue as Batman. The only reason why he eventually stopped was due to the Dent Act leaving him with nothing to do but wait and hope for things to go bad again, just like Alfred said. With that said, even if he actually DID retire for 8 years, most of those bruises and aches were enough from all the punishment through the first two films. And years of inactivity doesn't necessary make those ailments heal properly.

4.) Again, it only reported that Batman haven't been seen for 8 years. It never once said Bruce Wayne haven't been seen for 8 years. He obviously was around to handle business, and have benefits and ect. Even if others haven't really seen him, Bruce had other people to vouche that they have. The start of the film was him holding a benefit. Clearly, he knew he's still around just became a recluse and just assumed it's due to his Howard Hughes like-persona.

5.) If you was paying attention Lucius Fox explained they he had more made and ended up consolidating them while Bruce was away.

6.) Again, if you was paying attention, there was more than one "Bat". It's implied there was actually two based on the film. The 1st once was hidden on top of Wayne tower and the 2nd being the original prototype that wasn't "in black". Also, Fox initially asked Bruce to fix the auto-pilot to which Bruce keep messing with him about it not giving away that he actually did. Bruce wanted to fake his death and therefore kept it a secret from everyone of his intentions.
7.) Yes, it is heavily implied that Bane is an old man. 1st it's the obvious fact of how young Talia was when Bane saved her, then the implied notion of Bane being older than Bruce when he told him that he "fight like a young man", then lastly all of the other inmates in the prison where Bruce was held are now old. So Bane was indeed an older dude. Possibly in his mid-late 40's, but not much older than Bruce who was said to be in his 40's as well in this film. Also, Bane's masks was used to alleviate him from pain, so the fact is that pain feels NOTHING whenever bruce tries to fight him, that mask numbs any pain that comes at him, which gives him a huge advantage. It was only when Batman knocked a portion of the mask off was when Bane felt weak.

8.) How do you know that Batman knows the entire underground map of Gotham? Or, which is the bigger issue, did he really CARE? He was overconfident in believing he can beat Bane and he's back to his old self and not a shade of his former self, so it's a moot point where he was being led to.

9.) Now this is difficult to explain, mainly because you don't actually know what the crime these inmates have down, but being that it was ran by Bane, and the majority of those guys lived most of their lives there. The best explanation was they deserved a second chance which was the whole point of this film anyway; redemption.

10.) The number one objective between Bane & Talia was the break Bruce in every way imageable for the death of Ra's al Ghul, in doing so, the ultimate sacrifice is to fulfill what Ra's was originally set out to do. So, it didn't matter if Gotham was crime free for 8 years. With that said, throughout the film it was speaking of two classes clashing together and the elists was taking advantage of common man, and this being only bolstered up more by the face the "peace" in Gotham was all built on a lie and a law which can be argued as unconstitutional was made by its behalf. So corruption in Gotham was still heavy, just disguised.

11.) The nuclear reactor was never created by Bruce, he HID it without anybody's knowledge with the exception of Lucius Fox knowledge of its whereabouts. He only told "Miranda Tate" about the location due to the financial situation and him losing his fortune and therefore complete control of Wayne Enterprise and wanted her to take over. The reason why he hid it was in FEAR of it being taken by the wrong hands and used it as a nuclear bomb, and was trying to find an alternative way to modify it. He didn't have guards, due to that fear of anybody else having knowledge of where it's located but had a defense mechanism just in case which was flooding the whole section.

12.) for this EXACT reason here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_IEOGSKl8


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problem is that you want everything SPOONFED and refuse to use your own brain. But it's all good.

You'd be better off putting all this time and effort into discussing actual good movies. "TDKR" was terrible.

Fred.
 

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Watch it today again and like someone else said 2/3 was setting this up to be epic then it got dumb plus i hated the last battle so much because its like 3 in the afternoon

That took away his whole ninja mystery fear dark knightism. Its like an Aquaman final battle in the sahara
 

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Someone who suppose to have been taught by the League of Shadows and considered to be Ra's best student...and you actually asking how he had ninja-like skills to sneak back into gotham? The bigger question you should be asking was how long he actually BEEN hiding in Gotham?
so basically it was plot magic?
 

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so basically it was plot magic?

Well, DUH... this is not a documentary! You see him escape the prison, you logically KNOWS he's going to come back to Gotham. You your own brain on how he did it with the reminder that he is still Batman who is capable to sneak in anywhere undetected. It's not that difficult to understand. The film doesn't need to show you that.
 

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You'd be better off putting all this time and effort into discussing actual good movies. "TDKR" was terrible.

Fred.


There's nothing terrible about TDKR. It was still critically acclaimed and though it wasn't better TDK, it was still a solid flick.
 

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how did Bruce get back into Gotham? Did he swim? its supposed to be an Island and the bridge was blocked off by military. this guy just popped up Jason style like "I'm back bytches."
And went and got a shave and a haircut.....
 

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when batman came back, why did he use his batman voice around catwoman after she already found out who he was when Bane kicked his ass?

Batman's true character is batman. Bruce is his cover up. It's like that in the cartoon as well. He'll talk to Alfred in his batman voice even though Alfred knows his identity.
 

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It was on HBO This morning still find it difficult to not watch this , must be like what Nas stans feel like when listening to it was written
 

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late pass...

watched for the first time. Wasn't great. At least BB and TDK were great though.
 
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