THE DARK KNIGHT RISES REVIEW THREAD [SPOILERS]

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still one of the most poorly written movies ever
Bruce Wayne going broke, are you fukking serious
what was the point of roland dagget even being in the movie
if Bruce stopped being batman for 8 years how did he's body get destroyed when he was only batman for a few years
If Batman and Bruce Wayne both disappeared from the public eye for 8 years that wouldn't raise suspicion
in batman begins Fox says the tumbler is a prototype
but somehow in Rises they have a convoy of the damn things
also at the end, the bat blew up, but lucious Fox talks to somebody working on the exact
same one of a kind machine, talking about the auto pilots been fixed, even if there were more
than one, why would Bruce fix the auto pilot on a machine he's not even using
if Bane was a full grown man when he was helping taila escape as a child, he should be:flabbynsick:
and would've gotten that work
how the fukk does Batman not know catwoman is leading him directly under a building he not only owns but keeps all his weapons at
Bruce Wayne escapes from the prison and throws a rope down to let a bunch of murderers and rapist escape
the whole point of the league of shadows was to destroy gotham because it was too corrupt, but 8 years have gone by with no crime
wouldn't they moved onto another city like Chiraq
Bruce Wayne is suppose to be a genius, builds a nuclear bomb and keeps it unguarded directly under gotham, for what
Taila's plan is to blow up the city, so why occupy it Adolt Hitler style for five months, other than to give bruce time to walk across the Sahara Desert
to get back to Gotham

I could go on forever on this piece of shyt
 

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still one of the most poorly written movies ever
Bruce Wayne going broke, are you fukking serious
what was the point of roland dagget even being in the movie
if Bruce stopped being batman for 8 years how did he's body get destroyed when he was only batman for a few years
If Batman and Bruce Wayne both disappeared from the public eye for 8 years that wouldn't raise suspicion
in batman begins Fox says the tumbler is a prototype
but somehow in Rises they have a convoy of the damn things
also at the end, the bat blew up, but lucious Fox talks to somebody working on the exact
same one of a kind machine, talking about the auto pilots been fixed, even if there were more
than one, why would Bruce fix the auto pilot on a machine he's not even using

if Bane was a full grown man when he was helping taila escape as a child, he should be:flabbynsick:
and would've gotten that work
how the fukk does Batman not know catwoman is leading him directly under a building he not only owns but keeps all his weapons at
Bruce Wayne escapes from the prison and throws a rope down to let a bunch of murderers and rapist escape
the whole point of the league of shadows was to destroy gotham because it was too corrupt, but 8 years have gone by with no crime
wouldn't they moved onto another city like Chiraq
Bruce Wayne is suppose to be a genius, builds a nuclear bomb and keeps it unguarded directly under gotham, for what
Taila's plan is to blow up the city, so why occupy it Adolt Hitler style for five months, other than to give bruce time to walk across the Sahara Desert
to get back to Gotham


I could go on forever on this piece of shyt

:ohhh:

the batwing shyt makes no sense because bane and his nikkas got all of his shyt that wasnt hidden

talia did have the detonator, why not press the button?

this movie had potential until they started bringing in all those characters

just make it one on one, bane vs batman

that was enough, fuk catwoman was well
 

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still one of the most poorly written movies ever
Bruce Wayne going broke, are you fukking serious
what was the point of roland dagget even being in the movie
if Bruce stopped being batman for 8 years how did he's body get destroyed when he was only batman for a few years
If Batman and Bruce Wayne both disappeared from the public eye for 8 years that wouldn't raise suspicion
in batman begins Fox says the tumbler is a prototype
but somehow in Rises they have a convoy of the damn things
also at the end, the bat blew up, but lucious Fox talks to somebody working on the exact
same one of a kind machine, talking about the auto pilots been fixed, even if there were more
than one, why would Bruce fix the auto pilot on a machine he's not even using
if Bane was a full grown man when he was helping taila escape as a child, he should be:flabbynsick:
and would've gotten that work
how the fukk does Batman not know catwoman is leading him directly under a building he not only owns but keeps all his weapons at
Bruce Wayne escapes from the prison and throws a rope down to let a bunch of murderers and rapist escape
the whole point of the league of shadows was to destroy gotham because it was too corrupt, but 8 years have gone by with no crime
wouldn't they moved onto another city like Chiraq
Bruce Wayne is suppose to be a genius, builds a nuclear bomb and keeps it unguarded directly under gotham, for what
Taila's plan is to blow up the city, so why occupy it Adolt Hitler style for five months, other than to give bruce time to walk across the Sahara Desert
to get back to Gotham

I could go on forever on this piece of shyt
my nikka just shyt on the movie :dead:
 

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Damn its still a great movie to me :to: but @Master Teacher just came by and offed this movie :to:

I never thought bout it either tho.. he was out of commission for 8 years.. how his muscles not atrophy :wtf: The boy still fit after 8 years of walkin around on a cane and not working out once :wtf:

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still one of the most poorly written movies ever
Bruce Wayne going broke, are you fukking serious
what was the point of roland dagget even being in the movie
if Bruce stopped being batman for 8 years how did he's body get destroyed when he was only batman for a few years
If Batman and Bruce Wayne both disappeared from the public eye for 8 years that wouldn't raise suspicion
in batman begins Fox says the tumbler is a prototype
but somehow in Rises they have a convoy of the damn things
also at the end, the bat blew up, but lucious Fox talks to somebody working on the exact
same one of a kind machine, talking about the auto pilots been fixed, even if there were more
than one, why would Bruce fix the auto pilot on a machine he's not even using
if Bane was a full grown man when he was helping taila escape as a child, he should be:flabbynsick:
and would've gotten that work
how the fukk does Batman not know catwoman is leading him directly under a building he not only owns but keeps all his weapons at
Bruce Wayne escapes from the prison and throws a rope down to let a bunch of murderers and rapist escape
the whole point of the league of shadows was to destroy gotham because it was too corrupt, but 8 years have gone by with no crime
wouldn't they moved onto another city like Chiraq
Bruce Wayne is suppose to be a genius, builds a nuclear bomb and keeps it unguarded directly under gotham, for what
Taila's plan is to blow up the city, so why occupy it Adolt Hitler style for five months, other than to give bruce time to walk across the Sahara Desert
to get back to Gotham

I could go on forever on this piece of shyt
how did Bruce get back into Gotham? Did he swim? its supposed to be an Island and the bridge was blocked off by military. this guy just popped up Jason style like "I'm back bytches."
 

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still one of the most poorly written movies ever
Bruce Wayne going broke, are you fukking serious
what was the point of roland dagget even being in the movie
if Bruce stopped being batman for 8 years how did he's body get destroyed when he was only batman for a few years
If Batman and Bruce Wayne both disappeared from the public eye for 8 years that wouldn't raise suspicion
in batman begins Fox says the tumbler is a prototype
but somehow in Rises they have a convoy of the damn things
also at the end, the bat blew up, but lucious Fox talks to somebody working on the exact
same one of a kind machine, talking about the auto pilots been fixed, even if there were more
than one, why would Bruce fix the auto pilot on a machine he's not even using
if Bane was a full grown man when he was helping taila escape as a child, he should be:flabbynsick:
and would've gotten that work
how the fukk does Batman not know catwoman is leading him directly under a building he not only owns but keeps all his weapons at
Bruce Wayne escapes from the prison and throws a rope down to let a bunch of murderers and rapist escape
the whole point of the league of shadows was to destroy gotham because it was too corrupt, but 8 years have gone by with no crime
wouldn't they moved onto another city like Chiraq
Bruce Wayne is suppose to be a genius, builds a nuclear bomb and keeps it unguarded directly under gotham, for what
Taila's plan is to blow up the city, so why occupy it Adolt Hitler style for five months, other than to give bruce time to walk across the Sahara Desert
to get back to Gotham

I could go on forever on this piece of shyt

1.) The whole point was to break Bruce in every way imagineable; financially, emotionally, and physically and the finale is to fulfill Ra's al Ghul's wishes to destroy Gotham as he watched them in self-destruct mode before the nuke hit. It was all to break Bruce completely.

2.) Roland Dagget was a pawn to get financing for Bane to pull off everything, from planting the bombs all over the Gotham subways, logistics in bringing the nuclear reactor and kidnapping the scientist who created it. And led to believe he was going to take over Wayne Enterprise in return by Bane taking away all of Bruce's wealth. He was basically a pawn for Bane to achieve his goals.

3.) It was reported the last documented sighting of Batman was 8 years, it never said he up and quit being Batman since that time. It was heavily implied he was still doing it by; a.) the remodeling of the Cave and b.) he unlost hunger to continue as Batman. The only reason why he eventually stopped was due to the Dent Act leaving him with nothing to do but wait and hope for things to go bad again, just like Alfred said. With that said, even if he actually DID retire for 8 years, most of those bruises and aches were enough from all the punishment through the first two films. And years of inactivity doesn't necessary make those ailments heal properly.

4.) Again, it only reported that Batman haven't been seen for 8 years. It never once said Bruce Wayne haven't been seen for 8 years. He obviously was around to handle business, and have benefits and ect. Even if others haven't really seen him, Bruce had other people to vouche that they have. The start of the film was him holding a benefit. Clearly, he knew he's still around just became a recluse and just assumed it's due to his Howard Hughes like-persona.

5.) If you was paying attention Lucius Fox explained they he had more made and ended up consolidating them while Bruce was away.

6.) Again, if you was paying attention, there was more than one "Bat". It's implied there was actually two based on the film. The 1st once was hidden on top of Wayne tower and the 2nd being the original prototype that wasn't "in black". Also, Fox initially asked Bruce to fix the auto-pilot to which Bruce keep messing with him about it not giving away that he actually did. Bruce wanted to fake his death and therefore kept it a secret from everyone of his intentions.
7.) Yes, it is heavily implied that Bane is an old man. 1st it's the obvious fact of how young Talia was when Bane saved her, then the implied notion of Bane being older than Bruce when he told him that he "fight like a young man", then lastly all of the other inmates in the prison where Bruce was held are now old. So Bane was indeed an older dude. Possibly in his mid-late 40's, but not much older than Bruce who was said to be in his 40's as well in this film. Also, Bane's masks was used to alleviate him from pain, so the fact is that pain feels NOTHING whenever bruce tries to fight him, that mask numbs any pain that comes at him, which gives him a huge advantage. It was only when Batman knocked a portion of the mask off was when Bane felt weak.

8.) How do you know that Batman knows the entire underground map of Gotham? Or, which is the bigger issue, did he really CARE? He was overconfident in believing he can beat Bane and he's back to his old self and not a shade of his former self, so it's a moot point where he was being led to.

9.) Now this is difficult to explain, mainly because you don't actually know what the crime these inmates have down, but being that it was ran by Bane, and the majority of those guys lived most of their lives there. The best explanation was they deserved a second chance which was the whole point of this film anyway; redemption.

10.) The number one objective between Bane & Talia was the break Bruce in every way imageable for the death of Ra's al Ghul, in doing so, the ultimate sacrifice is to fulfill what Ra's was originally set out to do. So, it didn't matter if Gotham was crime free for 8 years. With that said, throughout the film it was speaking of two classes clashing together and the elists was taking advantage of common man, and this being only bolstered up more by the face the "peace" in Gotham was all built on a lie and a law which can be argued as unconstitutional was made by its behalf. So corruption in Gotham was still heavy, just disguised.

11.) The nuclear reactor was never created by Bruce, he HID it without anybody's knowledge with the exception of Lucius Fox knowledge of its whereabouts. He only told "Miranda Tate" about the location due to the financial situation and him losing his fortune and therefore complete control of Wayne Enterprise and wanted her to take over. The reason why he hid it was in FEAR of it being taken by the wrong hands and used it as a nuclear bomb, and was trying to find an alternative way to modify it. He didn't have guards, due to that fear of anybody else having knowledge of where it's located but had a defense mechanism just in case which was flooding the whole section.

12.) for this EXACT reason here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_IEOGSKl8


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how did Bruce get back into Gotham? Did he swim? its supposed to be an Island and the bridge was blocked off by military. this guy just popped up Jason style like "I'm back bytches."

Someone who suppose to have been taught by the League of Shadows and considered to be Ra's best student...and you actually asking how he had ninja-like skills to sneak back into gotham? The bigger question you should be asking was how long he actually BEEN hiding in Gotham?
 
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1.) The whole point was to break Bruce in every way imagineable; financially, emotionally, and physically and the finale is to fulfill Ra's al Ghul's wishes to destroy Gotham as he watched them in self-destruct mode before the nuke hit. It was all to break Bruce completely.

It doesn't make sense you dumb ass, the whole world say Bane break into the Stock Exchange, the entire thing would've been suspended
a billionaire like Bruce Wayne doesn't have every last piece of wealth in stocks, be serious. The shyt was dumb.


2.) Roland Dagget was a pawn to get financing for Bane to pull off everything, from planting the bombs all over the Gotham subways, logistics in bringing the nuclear reactor and kidnapping the scientist who created it. And led to believe he was going to take over Wayne Enterprise in return by Bane taking away all of Bruce's wealth. He was basically a pawn for Bane to achieve his goals.

He's motivations DO NOT MAKE SENSE. Why would he want to the BANKRUPT A COMPANY HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER, would want to
take over a defunct company. In reality he would just try to kill Bruce since he doesn't have any children and be made the chairman.



3.) It was reported the last documented sighting of Batman was 8 years, it never said he up and quit being Batman since that time. It was heavily implied he was still doing it by; a.) the remodeling of the Cave and b.) he unlost hunger to continue as Batman. The only reason why he eventually stopped was due to the Dent Act leaving him with nothing to do but wait and hope for things to go bad again, just like Alfred said. With that said, even if he actually DID retire for 8 years, most of those bruises and aches were enough from all the punishment through the first two films. And years of inactivity doesn't necessary make those ailments heal properly.

Its clearly stated he has not been Batman for 8 years, the Harvey Dent Act is also a very stupid block device. They could've just blamed his death on the
Joker or all the other countless gangsters they were dead and could tell the truth anyway. The CITY WAS SAVED. The League of Shadows only wanted to destroy Gotham because it was a cesspool of crime. Bruce was right Ras Al Ghul was wrong. There was no reason for the League of Shadows to be involved in this movie other to tie in to the first one. It's dumb.


4.) Again, it only reported that Batman haven't been seen for 8 years. It never once said Bruce Wayne haven't been seen for 8 years. He obviously was around to handle business, and have benefits and ect. Even if others haven't really seen him, Bruce had other people to vouche that they have. The start of the film was him holding a benefit. Clearly, he knew he's still around just became a recluse and just assumed it's due to his Howard Hughes like-persona.

Nobody has SEEN BRUCE IN EIGHT YEARS. Wayne Ent is on the brink of collapses, they haven't MADE ANY PROFITS. This nikka has DONE shyt FOR 8 years, Bruce would never do any shyt like this, it doesn't make any sense .


5.) If you was paying attention Lucius Fox explained they he had more made and ended up consolidating them while Bruce was away.

What are you talking about the tumbler or the bat? Also when does he say that

6.) Again, if you was paying attention, there was more than one "Bat". It's implied there was actually two based on the film. The 1st once was hidden on top of Wayne tower and the 2nd being the original prototype that wasn't "in black". Also, Fox initially asked Bruce to fix the auto-pilot to which Bruce keep messing with him about it not giving away that he actually did. Bruce wanted to fake his death and therefore kept it a secret from everyone of his intentions.
7.) Yes, it is heavily implied that Bane is an old man. 1st it's the obvious fact of how young Talia was when Bane saved her, then the implied notion of Bane being older than Bruce when he told him that he "fight like a young man", then lastly all of the other inmates in the prison where Bruce was held are now old. So Bane was indeed an older dude. Possibly in his mid-late 40's, but not much older than Bruce who was said to be in his 40's as well in this film. Also, Bane's masks was used to alleviate him from pain, so the fact is that pain feels NOTHING whenever bruce tries to fight him, that mask numbs any pain that comes at him, which gives him a huge advantage. It was only when Batman knocked a portion of the mask off was when Bane felt weak.

That Bat he fixed the auto pilot on blew UP OBVIOUSLY. Also why are random people inspecting a vehicle that is suppose to besecret and off the books
wouldn't they just say HEY this is the thing Batman flew away in, Bruce Wayne is really batman. Also when the city was occupied, nobody thought hey where did all these Batmobile's come from, he's been on the NEWS driving it they know what it looks like.


Taila is in her mid 30's man, she's not that much younger than Bruce, so Bane would have to be close to 60 ITS A PLOT HOLE
Batman says you fight like a younger man, BECAUSE BANE IS SUPPOSE TO BE A YOUNGER IN PRIME MAN, UNTIL THE DUMB ASS TWIST fukkS IT UP
The mask is dumb because in the first fight Batman punches him in the face SEVERAL TIMES AND IT DOES NOTHING.


8.) How do you know that Batman knows the entire underground map of Gotham? Or, which is the bigger issue, did he really CARE? He was overconfident in believing he can beat Bane and he's back to his old self and not a shade of his former self, so it's a moot point where he was being led to.

He's batman, he's a computer with data on the entire city lay out, he should know if he's under Wayne Enterprises, you would think he would have security
setup around his armory.

9.) Now this is difficult to explain, mainly because you don't actually know what the crime these inmates have down, but being that it was ran by Bane, and the majority of those guys lived most of their lives there. The best explanation was they deserved a second chance which was the whole point of this film anyway; redemption.

It's just dumb, they TRIED TO RAPE TAILA WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD! THIS PEOPLE ARE SCUMBAGS AND GETS HIS INSPIRATION FROM THEM
ITS DUMB. Batman would never part take with CRIMINALS. He's inspiration would be to escape because HES SICK OF BEING AROUND THIS PIECES OF shyt


10.) The number one objective between Bane & Talia was the break Bruce in every way imageable for the death of Ra's al Ghul, in doing so, the ultimate sacrifice is to fulfill what Ra's was originally set out to do. So, it didn't matter if Gotham was crime free for 8 years. With that said, throughout the film it was speaking of two classes clashing together and the elists was taking advantage of common man, and this being only bolstered up more by the face the "peace" in Gotham was all built on a lie and a law which can be argued as unconstitutional was made by its behalf. So corruption in Gotham was still heavy, just disguised.

We know what the objective was, it just doesn't make since how it unfolded. First off Alfred would never LEAVE BRUCE, he would've done everything he could do to help Bruce beat Bane if he knew he was going to confront him. What was the point of kidnapping the scientist at the beginning, it served no purpose other than to have a great opening scene. Also they are holding a city hostage just to blow it up ALONG WITH THEMSELVES, when if they were suicidal like that they should just detonated once Batman was out the picture. Austin Powers made fun of this exact thing.
The Police captain let Bane escape AFTER HE MURDERED PEOPLE when he could just have had another police squad follow him. The Movie was ass
That bomb was still in Gotham when it exploded, it was just by the water, everybody would have still died.


11.) The nuclear reactor was never created by Bruce, he HID it without anybody's knowledge with the exception of Lucius Fox knowledge of its whereabouts. He only told "Miranda Tate" about the location due to the financial situation and him losing his fortune and therefore complete control of Wayne Enterprise and wanted her to take over. The reason why he hid it was in FEAR of it being taken by the wrong hands and used it as a nuclear bomb, and was trying to find an alternative way to modify it. He didn't have guards, due to that fear of anybody else having knowledge of where it's located but had a defense mechanism just in case which was flooding the whole section.

They knew he had It, they just didn't know where it was. Everybody knew about the cold fusion project, they just didn't know it could be turned into a weapon.
Taila despises Bruce but sleeps with him. Why, to weaken his legs before he fought Bane. Bane should have said "p*ssy ass cost you your Strength, p*ssy has defeated you."


12.) for this EXACT reason here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_IEOGSKl8

Your
problem is that you want everything SPOONFED and refuse to use your own brain. But it's all good.

Your problem is your A NOLAN FANBOY and support this trash, I didnt have any problems with the first two movies even though they were not "Batman"
enough for me. This movie was hot trash period. Cardinal sin number 1.
At the end Bruce is broke, but living high on the hog in Italy with Catwoman, because she had a stash of loot from all HER CRIMES.
BRUCE WOULD NEVER LIVE OFF OF STOLEN MONEY HE WOULD NOT DO IT, ITS AGAINST EVERYTHING HE STANDS FOR
 

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1.) How'd you know that? Are you a stock broker? Dismissing the FACT this is a comic book film and not a documentary on Wall Street. For the sake of this FICTIONAL story, the idea was to wipe away all of Bruce's fortune as one of the key motives of breaking him every way possible.

2.) How Daggert used as a pawn NOT make sense? If he's the one financing the whole thing with a false assumption that he's going to take over Wayne Enterprises, then how is that difficult for you to UNDERSTAND? He does not want to bankrupt the company, he is one of the company's shareholders, he want to wipe away Bruce's fortune which in turn forces Bruce to give up his own company and Daggert would buy it out. DAMN why are you so DENSE? This was at least laid out for you to understand.

3.) Yes it said the last REPORTED sighting of Batman was 8 years ago, it did not say Batman by Bruce or anyone close that he haven't worked as Batman since that length of time. And as I stated before, Bruce never lost that desire, he only stopped because there was no real crime going on thanks to the Dent Act. The city wasn't "saved", it was swept under the rug with a law that was deemed by several as unconstitutional and wanted to be done away with. It was "saved" by a lie which was exposed by Bane which 'caused the average citizens of Gotham do exactly what The Joker predicted would happen.

4.) Yes they have. He only LATER became recluse and even THEN had people close to him, mostly Alfred & Fox to handle his businesses and vouche for him being around. Again the film started off with him holding a benefit party with EVERYONE knowing he was in the mansion! Nobody assumed Bruce being "missing". Everyone knew he was simply recluse.

5.) The tumbler. He said he the moment he shown him he had more. Pay attention and listen:

6.) The auto pilot was a computer glitch. If Bruce corrected it for what, why not have it modified for both to work? Also, it gives the FILM the hint that the audience needs to imply he was still alive.

7.) In the actual screenplay, Talia was said to be in her 30's true. It NEVER mentioned about Bane's ago, but you gotta be DUMB to assume Bane is 30 years older than Talia. If Talia was around 8-10 years old when she ESCAPED then Bane could of been only 10-15 years older THEN. You do the math. It's highly plausible that Bane was in his mid to late 40's at present date. And where did it even say Bane "supposedly" be younger than Bruce? Nowhere in this film said or implied that. Needless to say again, Bruce in this picture was in his early 40's himself.

8.) There's no evidence of that, and as I stated before it's not like he CARED. I mean Alfred prior to that even stated to Bruce that it's not that he fears to fail but that he WANTED to. So worrying about where he was being led to is a moot point.

9.) Doesn't matter how YOU feel. If Bruce believe people should have a 2nd chance and the whole theme of the film is to "RISE" meaning redemption, then the film have to be consistent in that theme. Period. I mean that part of the film was done delibrate to suggest that.

10.) The only thing I agree with you is Alfred (in the comics) would never leave Bruce. But this isn't like the comics, and Alfred did leave, but that wasn't part of the actual plan by Talia and Bane anyway. Also, you REALLY skimmed through this film if you do not know why they kidnapped Dr. Pavel! He was the only one capable to activate the reactor. And again, dismissing the fact it takes approximately 6 months for it to detonate therefore they had NO CHOICE but to wait it out and hold the city hostage for that long, the whole intention is to make Bruce suffer watching his own city goes into complete chaos and he cannot do anything about it. Bruce even admitted this as his only true fear. Also, if you talking about Police Chief Foley, he was too consumed over capturing Batman and it was his imcompetance and desire to be the one that actually captured Batman that led to Bane escaping. Lastly, as the military that was surveying the detonation reported, it reached the outside the limits of the city. You are REALLLY grasping for straws when all your complaints, even the smallest ones are addressed IF you paid attention.

11.) I know you attempted to make humor, but for real, the best effective weapon against man is P*SSY! Just on an average regular basis, b*tches set n*ggaz up through manipulating their emotions by way of giving them some azz. Talia, knew sleeping with the enemy would prove effective in the long run. It helps blind Bruce on who he can actually trust. Also, yes, everyone known about the reactor. Noone have a clue were it was hidden or even if it was ever made, "Miranda Tate" even asked Bruce if he actually just thrown away her money that she invested in. And Bruce kept it a secret of it being capable of transforming into a nuclear bomb for the obvious reason. You cannot deny how very secretative Bruce was about this that he was even withholding the truth even to Tate until he had no choice BUT to tell her.

12.) I not ONCE mention about Nolan, nor does someone have to be a Nolan fan to purely UNDERSTAND the why's and the how's in this film because it's laid out there as PLAIN AS DAY. It still only PROVES that your brain is limited and need to be SPOONFED to just understand. You proven this point by just asking what was the purpose of kidnapping DR. PAVEL. Are you for real? If you lost at least THAT point, then there's you opinion of how good or bad this film is is INVALID.

I will add one last thing, since you are under the assumption Batman is some ADAM WEST made character. Batman is NOT a schoolboy! The muthaf*cka is virtually a criminal HIMSELF, the only difference between him and the other criminals is the fact he strictly goes after them. So, everything he does has immoral objectivity to them. Even the 2ND film highlights this! So, to consider he wouldn't be living it up with Catwoman in spite of her being a former criminal is absurd, because even in the COMICS he did that.
 
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1.) How'd you know that? Are you a stock broker? Dismissing the FACT this is a comic book film and not a documentary on Wall Street. For the sake of this FICTIONAL story, the idea was to wipe away all of Bruce's fortune as one of the key motives of breaking him every way possible.

2.) How Daggert used as a pawn NOT make sense? If he's the one financing the whole thing with a false assumption that he's going to take over Wayne Enterprises, then how is that difficult for you to UNDERSTAND? He does not want to bankrupt the company, he is one of the company's shareholders, he want to wipe away Bruce's fortune which in turn forces Bruce to give up his own company and Daggert would buy it out. DAMN why are you so DENSE? This was at least laid out for you to understand.

3.) Yes it said the last REPORTED sighting of Batman was 8 years ago, it did not say Batman by Bruce or anyone close that he haven't worked as Batman since that length of time. And as I stated before, Bruce never lost that desire, he only stopped because there was no real crime going on thanks to the Dent Act. The city wasn't "saved", it was swept under the rug with a law that was deemed by several as unconstitutional and wanted to be done away with. It was "saved" by a lie which was exposed by Bane which 'caused the average citizens of Gotham do exactly what The Joker predicted would happen.

4.) Yes they have. He only LATER became recluse and even THEN had people close to him, mostly Alfred & Fox to handle his businesses and vouche for him being around. Again the film started off with him holding a benefit party with EVERYONE knowing he was in the mansion! Nobody assumed Bruce being "missing". Everyone knew he was simply recluse.

5.) The tumbler. He said he the moment he shown him he had more. Pay attention and listen:

6.) The auto pilot was a computer glitch. If Bruce corrected it for what, why not have it modified for both to work? Also, it gives the FILM the hint that the audience needs to imply he was still alive.

7.) In the actual screenplay, Talia was said to be in her 30's true. It NEVER mentioned about Bane's ago, but you gotta be DUMB to assume Bane is 30 years older than Talia. If Talia was around 8-10 years old when she ESCAPED then Bane could of been only 10-15 years older THEN. You do the math. It's highly plausible that Bane was in his mid to late 40's at present date. And where did it even say Bane "supposedly" be younger than Bruce? Nowhere in this film said or implied that. Needless to say again, Bruce in this picture was in his early 40's himself.

8.) There's no evidence of that, and as I stated before it's not like he CARED. I mean Alfred prior to that even stated to Bruce that it's not that he fears to fail but that he WANTED to. So worrying about where he was being led to is a moot point.

9.) Doesn't matter how YOU feel. If Bruce believe people should have a 2nd chance and the whole theme of the film is to "RISE" meaning redemption, then the film have to be consistent in that theme. Period. I mean that part of the film was done delibrate to suggest that.

10.) The only thing I agree with you is Alfred (in the comics) would never leave Bruce. But this isn't like the comics, and Alfred did leave, but that wasn't part of the actual plan by Talia and Bane anyway. Also, you REALLY skimmed through this film if you do not know why they kidnapped Dr. Pavel! He was the only one capable to activate the reactor. And again, dismissing the fact it takes approximately 6 months for it to detonate therefore they had NO CHOICE but to wait it out and hold the city hostage for that long, the whole intention is to make Bruce suffer watching his own city goes into complete chaos and he cannot do anything about it. Bruce even admitted this as his only true fear. Also, if you talking about Police Chief Foley, he was too consumed over capturing Batman and it was his imcompetance and desire to be the one that actually captured Batman that led to Bane escaping. Lastly, as the military that was surveying the detonation reported, it reached the outside the limits of the city. You are REALLLY grasping for straws when all your complaints, even the smallest ones are addressed IF you paid attention.

11.) I know you attempted to make humor, but for real, the best effective weapon against man is P*SSY! Just on an average regular basis, b*tches set n*ggaz up through manipulating their emotions by way of giving them some azz. Talia, knew sleeping with the enemy would prove effective in the long run. It helps blind Bruce on who he can actually trust. Also, yes, everyone known about the reactor. Noone have a clue were it was hidden or even if it was ever made, "Miranda Tate" even asked Bruce if he actually just thrown away her money that she invested in. And Bruce kept it a secret of it being capable of transforming into a nuclear bomb for the obvious reason. You cannot deny how very secretative Bruce was about this that he was even withholding the truth even to Tate until he had no choice BUT to tell her.

12.) I not ONCE mention about Nolan, nor does someone have to be a Nolan fan to purely UNDERSTAND the why's and the how's in this film because it's laid out there as PLAIN AS DAY. It still only PROVES that your brain is limited and need to be SPOONFED to just understand. You proven this point by just asking what was the purpose of kidnapping DR. PAVEL. Are you for real? If you lost at least THAT point, then there's you opinion of how good or bad this film is is INVALID.

I will add one last thing, since you are under the assumption Batman is some ADAM WEST made character. Batman is NOT a schoolboy! The muthaf*cka is virtually a criminal HIMSELF, the only difference between him and the other criminals is the fact he strictly goes after them. So, everything he does has immoral objectivity to them. Even the 2ND film highlights this! So, to consider he wouldn't be living it up with Catwoman in spite of her being a former criminal is absurd, because even in the COMICS he did that.


I not reading all that
the fact you have to explain every couple questions I have with paragraphs shows your reaching out of your ass
Bruce could not go broke by bad trades in the stock market, the Corporation Wayne would be bankrupt, not him personally
the cash in his bank accounts are not in the stock market, all the various assets billionaires have such as real estate, bonds, and a slew of others
shyt would not have sent him into the poor house. Plus everybody and their mother saw Bane break into the stock exchange of course it was fraud.

Also they shyt they did with the stocks could have been done from a wireless internet connection from a safe location no need to break into the stock market
the shyt is just a dumb plot, admit it.

Bane could not have possible be 15 years old fighting off grown men in prison
stop it. In the flashbackk you see a full grown man, stop it.

You still haven't answered why would Dagget want to take over a bankrupt and down ridden Wayne Enterprises
also Dagget has his own corporation why is he on the boarder of directors of Wayne in the first place.
Miranda Tate could have financed everything there was no need for Dagget other than to stall the plot for his long ass movie
If Miranda Tate knew he was Batman the whole time, why didn't she just have Bane ambush him at Wayne Manor, her father had no problem coming to straight his crib.
Why, because they didn't decide to make the twist until they were a hundred pages into the script.
Miranda Tate is a prominent business woman not from wealth, so her being 21-22 years old is impossible, she has wealth on par with Wayne's and is in his peer group, so she's not that much younger than him. Catwoman is obviously much younger than Bruce.
your right about the woman trust thing, BUT THATS WHAT CATWOMAN CHARACTER WAS FOR, he trusted her and got betrayed. Did you have the exact same thing happen to him again to make it a twist, its BAD STORY TELLING
Also Taila has no reason to be mad at bruce, her FATHER LEFT HER AND HER MOTHER TO DIE IN A HELL HOLE WHERE SHE WAS ABOUT BE RAPED AND MURDERED, AND THEN shytTED ON THE ONLY PERSON WHO EVER HELPED HER AND LOOKED OUT FOR HER SHE SHOULD HATE HIS GUTS, it DOES NOT MAKE SENSE

How did Bruce get back into gotham with none of his equipment and no money
when it was locked down.
Where the hell was Alfred when the entire city has gone to shyt, he would have tried to found out what happen to Bruce, and it would've been a good time from them make up proving their bond is unbreakable, when Alfred could've helped Bruce escape by showing in up in a goddamn helicopter or something, because he has a military background.

If Batman had all the tumbler's around, why didn't he just get another Batmobile?
If contradicts everything in Batman begins, why would they still be making protoypes for something that was not going to be mass produced
 
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Nolan tried to warn us about what them illuminati demons were planning, see "sandyhook" shows up randomly on the map, its said that the illuminati must give a warning before doing something that

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I not reading all that
the fact you have to explain every couple questions I have with paragraphs shows your reaching out of your ass
Bruce could not go broke by bad trades in the stock market, the Corporation Wayne would be bankrupt, not him personally
the cash in his bank accounts are not in the stock market, all the various assets billionaires have such as real estate, bonds, and a slew of others
shyt would not have sent him into the poor house. Plus everybody and their mother saw Bane break into the stock exchange of course it was fraud.

Also they shyt they did with the stocks could have been done from a wireless internet connection from a safe location no need to break into the stock market
the shyt is just a dumb plot, admit it.

Bane could not have possible be 15 years old fighting off grown men in prison
stop it. In the flashbackk you see a full grown man, stop it.

You still haven't answered why would Dagget want to take over a bankrupt and down ridden Wayne Enterprises
also Dagget has his own corporation why is he on the boarder of directors of Wayne in the first place.
Miranda Tate could have financed everything there was no need for Dagget other than to stall the plot for his long ass movie
If Miranda Tate knew he was Batman the whole time, why didn't she just have Bane ambush him at Wayne Manor, her father had no problem coming to straight his crib.
Why, because they didn't decide to make the twist until they were a hundred pages into the script.
Miranda Tate is a prominent business woman not from wealth, so her being 21-22 years old is impossible, she has wealth on par with Wayne's and is in his peer group, so she's not that much younger than him. Catwoman is obviously much younger than Bruce.
your right about the woman trust thing, BUT THATS WHAT CATWOMAN CHARACTER WAS FOR, he trusted her and got betrayed. Did you have the exact same thing happen to him again to make it a twist, its BAD STORY TELLING
Also Taila has no reason to be mad at bruce, her FATHER LEFT HER AND HER MOTHER TO DIE IN A HELL HOLE WHERE SHE WAS ABOUT BE RAPED AND MURDERED, AND THEN shytTED ON THE ONLY PERSON WHO EVER HELPED HER AND LOOKED OUT FOR HER SHE SHOULD HATE HIS GUTS, it DOES NOT MAKE SENSE

How did Bruce get back into gotham with none of his equipment and no money
when it was locked down.
Where the hell was Alfred when the entire city has gone to shyt, he would have tried to found out what happen to Bruce, and it would've been a good time from them make up proving their bond is unbreakable, when Alfred could've helped Bruce escape by showing in up in a goddamn helicopter or something, because he has a military background.

If Batman had all the tumbler's around, why didn't he just get another Batmobile?
If contradicts everything in Batman begins, why would they still be making protoypes for something that was not going to be mass produced

And there you have it. SMH... Dude, you just being pigheaded when everything I posted was IN THE FILM shown as bright as day! You just being hardheaded, because you know you are wrong. I gave you DETAILED explanations to the OBVIOUS and given you clips to support it. Just admit you was NOT paying attention and/or at least had it in your MIND to hate on the movie without validity.

And to PROVE you cannot pay attention, I DID NOT SAY BANE was 15 years old. I said it is plausible he was 10 to 15 years older than Talia. Which means if Talia was about 8 to 10 years old, that mean Bane would of been at LEAST around his early 20's! how difficult is that to understand?? But again this only PROVES my point that you have no stand to b*tch about a film when you are incapable to use common deduction.
 
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