The Daniel Bryan problem

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Has damn near the same amount of time off as edge did yet nobody says a thing
Apparently carries everyone to greatness and carried guys who have had classic feuds and matches with other wrestlers to "the best matches in they careers" the one who carried triple h at mania even though trips literally has had great matches every year. Has carried cena to a classic at summer slam even though cena already had classics there with others

But he sells merch? Rey mysterio, santino, and even zach Ryder have been top five merch sellers but fans never used these excuses to over prop them
But he had great matches? He isn't the only good wrestler in the e and isn't the greatest ever.

But he has a big catchphrase? Which he admittedly stole from Diego Sanchez

Honestly, which of these are not facts?

Because a lot of this us based off shyt people say here in TSC[/QUOTE]
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That's actually the most retarded portion of the entire post. None of that makes any sense and is applicable to nearly every wrestler.
 

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We'll never know with Ryder. :yeshrug:

Even I was a fan during that time. The main difference is that when they tried to bury Bryan, it backfired. When they tried to bury Ryder, it was :dead:.

Cena punked him out, Eve made him look like a loser simp, and Kane finished him off. It was grimy how they did Ryder.:scusthov:
EXACTLY bryan never got buried like that and looking back had one of the clearest and most steady pushes ever. Dude was involved from top to bottom on the card yet people created a hype that he was being held back. He was involved with and beat literally a combined total of 40 plus world champions in a 2 year span from cena to punk to triple h tk batista to orton to mark henry to big show to Sheamus and thensome. Yet he W's W's being held back and was given bullshyt and made the best of it. No credit to the sometines incompetent wwe booking but still somewhat capable writers or even triple h who literally put over bryan CLEAN in the biggest match and event in Bryan's life...nope it was all bryan
 

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Honestly, which of these are not facts?

Because a lot of this us based off shyt people say here in TSC
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That's actually the most retarded portion of the entire post. None of that makes any sense and is applicable to nearly every wrestler.[/QUOTE]
No its not

Shawn Michaels wrestling catalog of matches is one of the best from a technical storyline nd emotional stand point ever. So is taker. Nobody has to brag and boast and shyt on anyone these guys faced in order for them to get credit. Bryan is the only guy I see that literally gets all the credit no matter who he works with as the sole reason any match they have is good.
 

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EXACTLY bryan never got buried like that and looking back had one of the clearest and most steady pushes ever. Dude was involved from top to bottom on the card yet people created a hype that he was being held back. He was involved with and beat literally a combined total of 40 plus world champions in a 2 year span from cena to punk to triple h tk batista to orton to mark henry to big show to Sheamus and thensome. Yet he W's W's being held back and was given bullshyt and made the best of it. No credit to the sometines incompetent wwe booking but still somewhat capable writers or even triple h who literally put over bryan CLEAN in the biggest match and event in Bryan's life...nope it was all bryan

That Sheamus burial at Wrestlemania was most likely the beginning of the end for Bryan's booking but he managed to bounce back.

And being thrown in a random tag team with Kane or being involved with Kane at all is a guaranteed momentum killer.

And who is saying it was all Bryan? :dahell:

Where are all these narratives and opinions coming from?
 

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That Sheamus burial at Wrestlemania was most likely the beginning of the end for Bryan's booking but he managed to bounce back.

And being thrown in a random tag team with Kane or being involved with Kane at all is a guaranteed momentum killer.

And who is saying it was all Bryan? :dahell:

Where are all these narratives and opinions coming from?

A lot of these type of comments were made during and after his RTW push, mostly during
 

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That Sheamus burial at Wrestlemania was most likely the beginning of the end for Bryan's booking but he managed to bounce back.

And being thrown in a random tag team with Kane or being involved with Kane at all is a guaranteed momentum killer.

And who is saying it was all Bryan? :dahell:

Where are all these narratives and opinions coming from?
Kane a momentum killer only person that has ever been tag team champions with kane and didn't win the big belt was hurricane helms and xpac

Kane has won the gold with bryan mankind taker rvd big show and kane has the record for most wins in wwe history. Once again throwing a hall of famer under the bus to make bryan seem even better than what he is
 

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Kane a momentum killer only person that has ever been tag team champions with kane and didn't win the big belt was hurricane helms and xpac

Kane has won the gold with bryan mankind taker rvd big show and kane has the record for most wins in wwe history. Once again throwing a hall of famer under the bus to make bryan seem even better than what he is

:stopitslime: You know that Kane has been
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Bryan has been getting injuries at the same rate as edge orton and various others yet they get called frail etc. But all have had major runs before and after major injuries while bryan has been hurt this year and will hopefully for his sake take a good year off and finally try to get back to a decent health level.

I can't speak on Edge detractors since I missed most of his run. Who besides @R=G called Orton frail? We joke about his heat but I'd say most of us respect him. These guys ALL need some time off.

He supposedly carried guys whose resumes already were filled with classic matches to the best matches of their career and people make it seem like he's the greatest of all time when he isn't even top 20

Wyatt hasn't had a great singles match other than the one with DB. DB's resume speaks for itself, he IS top 20 status. Have you see his non-WWE work? But I will say that guys like Angle, Benoit, Y2J, and Punk have had more classics in the E.

That he is an amazing draw but other then ok ratings he really didn't do anything to usher in some next generation of the business like yall keep acting like he did with his yes no pops and finger pointing

Wrestling in general isn't big like that these days, I'd say Punk brought more attention to the sport than DB did. That said, why do you or others still care about ratings or drawing power? As long as it's entertaining, that's all that should matter.

Yall know damn well if anyone else was the face of the wwe and champion and been given one of the strongest pushes ever while the company lost 750 million yall would shyt on them endlessly

He's not the reason that happened though. This was around the same time that the Network just dropped and flopped. But you're half-right, if this happened while Batista, Cena, or Reigns were champ, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Yall claim he overcame every bullshyt storyline he had and what not but can't admit that his very last feud we saw was one of the worst feuds ever and refuse to put any blame for anything bad that can and has happened on him and rather go with the narrative that "it's everybody's fault be bryan"

You wanna see a wrestler's momentum come to a sudden halt? Stick him with KANE. Kane and Big Show are GUARANTEED heat suckers. There's no excuse for either one of them to be involved in wrestling in 2014. Definitely not DB's fault. Edit: @mrken12 said exactly what I said :ohhh:

You guys stay praising his merchandise sales and make a wish visits but shytted on cena for being the most request make a wish celebrity ever. U hate kids who buy endless cena merch or rey merch or even she am us merch and get mad at the wwe for marketing these baby faces towards kids but more than likely you fools contemplated buying one of those Billy goats with the team he'll no shirts on them.

Nobody shat on Cena for his Make A Wish appearances :why: If anything that's the only thing he gets props for. Nobody gets mad at any wrestler for pushing merch :dahell: And nobody here wanted DB's shytty ass shirts :duck: he's only had 2 that were dope, and 1 of them was prior to him being mega over.

Yall threw hall of famer under the bus just to prop up d bry. Orton, batista, kane, triple h, orton, and even wanted bryan to be the guy to not only make mark henry tap out a t mania after he rejuvenated his career with the hall of pain gimmick but also still think he should be the guy to beat brock lesnar even though bryan got the ball and ultimate mania push last year and pretty much dropped the ball and are botching at the idea of anyone new getting a shot at a main event push

Orton/Tista would've been a bullshyt WM ME and you know it. And going back to EC 2013, I would've rather Orton or Henry win it over DB. But they chose Swagger :snoop:

Who do you honestly should beat Lesnar for the title? DB's comeback story and the fact that he didn't lose it would make for a great storyline.
 
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nikkas think I'm trolling part of its for jokes but once again...what did I say that was wrong?

Everything and here's why

Bryan has been getting injuries at the same rate as edge orton and various others yet they get called frail etc. But all have had major runs before and after major injuries while bryan has been hurt this year and will hopefully for his sake take a good year off and finally try to get back to a decent health level.

No. Bryan has only been injured once. This year. That's it. Injured at the same rate as Edge? Are you on dope? Edge can't even wrestle no more he took so many silly bumps. Blandy couldn't go 9 months at a time without fukking up for like 7 years straight. He's a idiot and works a sissy safe style that is why he's seen as stagnant and worthless. Nyggas fell for that same dumb ass pop up RKO stunt on Monday. I saw that shyt in 2006. It's boring and it sucks.


He supposedly carried guys whose resumes already were filled with classic matches to the best matches of their career and people make it seem like he's the greatest of all time when he isn't even top 20

Everyone thought Reigns was the shyt when he was wrestling Bryan in multiple matches for over a year. Without Bryan, it's Reigns sucks and he don't got next...and he can't bring it..and he's winded. All of that nonsense. Don't be double talking like Bryan hasn't outworked Lesnar, Taker, Cripple H, Punk, Jericho, Cesaro..all them nyggas like no one else since 2011. He was the one doing the multiple matches a night while everyone else was wrestling 5 minute squash matches and relying on promo work to skate buy to easy paychecks. And no one ever said Bryan is the greatest of all time...he just can't be fukked with on a weekly basis and the quality of today's WWE proves that.



That he is an amazing draw but other then ok ratings he really didn't do anything to usher in some next generation of the business like yall keep acting like he did with his yes no pops and finger pointing

Let's see..it didn't take all too long for him to get high merchandise sells, even when TSC said his merchandise looks silly and kept hyping Heyman types over him. Once again, he was given less and it still worked and still sold out arenas and still was getting higher ratings than Cena this year. Easily.

Yall know damn well if anyone else was the face of the wwe and champion and been given one of the strongest pushes ever while the company lost 750 million yall would shyt on them endlessly

The company lost 750 million because they misjudged their audience and didn't understand they wouldn't buy their frail network. Bryan is not around and they are BEGGING for subscribers..every single week. Shamelessly. Like a hooker on El Cajon Blvd. It's scandalous.

Yall claim he overcame every bullshyt storyline he had and what not but can't admit that his very last feud we saw was one of the worst feuds ever and refuse to put any blame for anything bad that can and has happened on him and rather go with the narrative that "it's everybody's fault be bryan"

His last feud was bad? Well..who was it with? Kane..lol. It's called TRYING TO SABOTAGE A GUY ON TOP, dummy. Something you saw over and over and over again with Punk. Something you saw with Shelton. With MVP. With Henry. With Carlito. With Ziggler. How slow are you? They got Cripple H facing Taker 2x at Mania and going over Lesnar..shyt NO ONE ASKED for and wanted. And those matches wouldn't of failed just like the Taker/Micahels matches failed financially...had Rock not saved those cards from record low buyrates.

You guys stay praising his merchandise sales and make a wish visits but shytted on cena for being the most request make a wish celebrity ever. U hate kids who buy endless cena merch or rey merch or even she am us merch and get mad at the wwe for marketing these baby faces towards kids but more than likely you fools contemplated buying one of those Billy goats with the team he'll no shirts on them.

So you're another undercover Cena? LOL. No one hates Cena for having merch or any of that shyt. It's that they made it part of his gimmick. Get me back when Daniel Bryan needs to use a little girl who battled cancer the majority of her life as a prop for a wrestling sports entertainment Summerslam build. John Cena is a despicable piece of shyt. Nyggas are still acting like Paris Hilton about that phony little homosexual.

Yall threw hall of famer under the bus just to prop up d bry. Orton, batista, kane, triple h, orton, and even wanted bryan to be the guy to not only make mark henry tap out a t mania after he rejuvenated his career with the hall of pain gimmick but also still think he should be the guy to beat brock lesnar even though bryan got the ball and ultimate mania push last year and pretty much dropped the ball and are botching at the idea of anyone new getting a shot at a main event push

No one has to be thrown under the bus. The fans chose Bryan over those wack acts. Every time. Without thinking twice. And you toss Michaels in there too..he got booed out too. Bryan didn't drop any ball. He was the success and savior of the year. WM XXX was given a shock factor moment in Lesnar winning after that hideous match and Rock/Austin/Hogan showing up. Other than that, Bryan saved the show.
 

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No. Bryan has only been injured once. This year. That's it. Injured at the same rate as Edge? Are you on dope? Edge can't even wrestle no more he took so many silly bumps. Blandy couldn't go 9 months at a time without fukking up for like 7 years straight. He's a idiot and works a sissy safe style that is why he's seen as stagnant and worthless. Nyggas fell for that same dumb ass pop up RKO stunt on Monday. I saw that shyt in 2006. It's boring and it sucks.




Everyone thought Reigns was the shyt when he was wrestling Bryan in multiple matches for over a year. Without Bryan, it's Reigns sucks and he don't got next...and he can't bring it..and he's winded. All of that nonsense. Don't be double talking like Bryan hasn't outworked Lesnar, Taker, Cripple H, Punk, Jericho, Cesaro..all them nyggas like no one else since 2011. He was the one doing the multiple matches a night while everyone else was wrestling 5 minute squash matches and relying on promo work to skate buy to easy paychecks. And no one ever said Bryan is the greatest of all time...he just can't be fukked with on a weekly basis and the quality of today's WWE proves that.





Let's see..it didn't take all too long for him to get high merchandise sells, even when TSC said his merchandise looks silly and kept hyping Heyman types over him. Once again, he was given less and it still worked and still sold out arenas and still was getting higher ratings than Cena this year. Easily.



The company lost 750 million because they misjudged their audience and didn't understand they wouldn't buy their frail network. Bryan is not around and they are BEGGING for subscribers..every single week. Shamelessly. Like a hooker on El Cajon Blvd. It's scandalous.



His last feud was bad? Well..who was it with? Kane..lol. It's called TRYING TO SABOTAGE A GUY ON TOP, dummy. Something you saw over and over and over again with Punk. Something you saw with Shelton. With MVP. With Henry. With Carlito. With Ziggler. How slow are you? They got Cripple H facing Taker 2x at Mania and going over Lesnar..shyt NO ONE ASKED for and wanted. And those matches wouldn't of failed just like the Taker/Micahels matches failed financially...had Rock not saved those cards from record low buyrates.



So you're another undercover Cena? LOL. No one hates Cena for having merch or any of that shyt. It's that they made it part of his gimmick. Get me back when Daniel Bryan needs to use a little girl who battled cancer the majority of her life as a prop for a wrestling sports entertainment Summerslam build. John Cena is a despicable piece of shyt. Nyggas are still acting like Paris Hilton about that phony little homosexual.



No one has to be thrown under the bus. The fans chose Bryan over those wack acts. Every time. Without thinking twice. And you toss Michaels in there too..he got booed out too. Bryan didn't drop any ball. He was the success and savior of the year. WM XXX was given a shock factor moment in Lesnar winning after that hideous match and Rock/Austin/Hogan showing up. Other than that, Bryan saved the show.
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Lets do a little hypothetical...
Stone Cold Steve Austin (aka the hottest act in the business) wins the belt from Shawn and the following events occur in succession:
A. Austin (the hottest act in the business) goes from a surging solo act to being saddled with someone like Debra as his manager.
B. Austin's opponent targets this new unnecessary appendage to get at Austin.
C. Austin becomes fearful and acts scared for his manager's safety and literally runs away from his opponent to keep her out of harms way.

Imagine what that might have done to his momentum...

Kane was never the momentum killer. Kane vs. Bryan could have been a really cool personal feud that built on their shared history. The true momentum killer (prior to the injury) was creative- they just had no clue what they had in Bryan. I know that for a fact.
 

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Lets do a little hypothetical...
Stone Cold Steve Austin (aka the hottest act in the business) wins the belt from Shawn and the following events occur in succession:
A. Austin (the hottest act in the business) goes from a surging solo act to being saddled with someone like Debra as his manager.
B. Austin's opponent targets this new unnecessary appendage to get at Austin.
C. Austin becomes fearful and acts scared for his manager's safety and literally runs away from his opponent to keep her out of harms way.

Imagine what that might have done to his momentum...

Kane was never the momentum killer. Kane vs. Bryan could have been a really cool personal feud that built on their shared history. The true momentum killer (prior to the injury) was creative- they just had no clue what they had in Bryan. I know that for a fact.

Sounds like Zack Ryder
 
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