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Obreh Winfrey

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I'm not doubting that. But at the end of the day you have a time commitment that's greater than 0 hours a week. That your top competition didn't have. Could you have made up for it yes. But who would I bet my money on and who has the advantage all things else being equal , your competition that didn't work.

Not an argument.its just you haven't disproven my point that all else being equal to work or not to work the person that doesn't work has the clear advantage in time to get things done and not worry about a job even if the job involved you "not working". That's all I'm saying.

To all your young brehs going into the college if you had the chance not to work and can afford the loan or scholarship do it that way and maximize your time. You will have the advantage over your peers.

I've watched too many people work just to live off campus and afford a lifestyle during those four years that it seemed sweet then but they were living in the moment and not thinking about the investment.
I see what you're saying. I'm not necessarily trying to disprove you, just saying things from my point of view. I realize that the time commitment that comes with working can drag you down, but depending on the work you're doing you can make progress in other areas. I just want people to keep their options and opportunities open because you never know how they might turn out.

I've witnessed the same thing as you with people living in the moment. I've been trying to hit some of them with some long-term thinking knowledge. For example, I was talking with a dude in a couple of my classes and we were talking about post college and financial security. His view? I'm going to get a job and get an apartment and buy a nice car... and that's it. And this comes from a middle class kid who has faced little to no adversary in life. Now, what did I lay out for him? Get a Entry-Mid level job. Within 5 years move into a senior position. Within 5 years of that move into project management, then assess my options following that.. All the while investing in the market and building assets (and I realize this sounds like :duck:given the posts you'll find on The Coli). I don't know what it was, but this past summer changed me from thinking a year down the line to thinking 5, 10 years down the line. I personally was never "living in the moment" type of person but when I realize the possibilities out there... :wow:
 

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For any Houston brehs i'm thinking about applying to Texas Southern University.

They aren't very expensive and with my academics i'm basically guranteed admission. The only thing is their retention rate is 46% and the graduation rate 19%.

It's in Houston so i'm sure i'd have good internship and career oppurtunities and I also really want to go to an HBCU but that retention and graduation rate ain't pretty at all :patrice:

Any advice?

First and foremost, congrats on taking that step. Next I wouldn't worry about the retention and graduation rate. To me it's not a measure of the caliber of the school but the quality of the students and if they take it seriously. What's the chance that all the teachers can't teach and the administration is that bad ? Slim to none. Students have to take the investment seriously. And many times at our HBCU's we don't. If you put the time in and do what you need to do you won't have to worry about not coming back the next year and if you stay on the grind you will graduate within 6 years though we hope 4. Graduation rates are measured on 6 years though.

Since you made the post I'm sure you won't have nothing to worry about. Now onto the question at hand
You should go to the school that has outstanding outcomes of students in your major. For example, if you want to study medicine I would go to Xavier. From what I know they send the most black and brown students that look like us to med school. If you want engineering I would check NC A & T. Now if in state out of state is a question make sure TSU has your program and see what the top students in that major do post graduation. Look at the research the faculty that teach in that program are completing a d see if you're interested.

Check the other HBCU's and schools in the state and do the same. Let us know. We are here to help.

I see what you're saying. I'm not necessarily trying to disprove you, just saying things from my point of view. I realize that the time commitment that comes with working can drag you down, but depending on the work you're doing you can make progress in other areas. I just want people to keep their options and opportunities open because you never know how they might turn out.

I've witnessed the same thing as you with people living in the moment. I've been trying to hit some of them with some long-term thinking knowledge. For example, I was talking with a dude in a couple of my classes and we were talking about post college and financial security. His view? I'm going to get a job and get an apartment and buy a nice car... and that's it. And this comes from a middle class kid who has faced little to no adversary in life. Now, what did I lay out for him? Get a Entry-Mid level job. Within 5 years move into a senior position. Within 5 years of that move into project management, then assess my options following that.. All the while investing in the market and building assets (and I realize this sounds like :duck:given the posts you'll find on The Coli). I don't know what it was, but this past summer changed me from thinking a year down the line to thinking 5, 10 years down the line. I personally was never "living in the moment" type of person but when I realize the possibilities out there... :wow:

I think you made the best decision with your circumstances. I just don't want people to keep options open. I want people to make the best decision given the options. Bit if you have to work. Taking a easy on campus job is the answer which is what you did.

Stay with the long term thinking too. It protects your investment and will always have you in control and progressing.

Too many of us and our peers finish something and it's like now what... Then you realize what I finished might not help in the next step. So you have to go back and redo or cut losses. In college that's normally a $100k-$250k mistake.

Keep warning and blessing your other friends . They will thank you later. I'm retroactively doing that now with some close friends. It's painful to see there efforts go to waste and now reevaluate.
 

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I'm not doubting that. But at the end of the day you have a time commitment that's greater than 0 hours a week. That your top competition didn't have. Could you have made up for it yes. But who would I bet my money on and who has the advantage all things else being equal , your competition that didn't work.

Not an argument.its just you haven't disproven my point that all else being equal to work or not to work the person that doesn't work has the clear advantage in time to get things done and not worry about a job even if the job involved you "not working". That's all I'm saying.

To all your young brehs going into the college if you had the chance not to work and can afford the loan or scholarship do it that way and maximize your time. You will have the advantage over your peers.

I've watched too many people work just to live off campus and afford a lifestyle during those four years that it seemed sweet then but they were living in the moment and not thinking about the investment.


I guess..shrugs shoulder, I'm not in the business of debating people on the coli
 

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